VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Turret

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That's absolutely not what happened.

Patreon never gave a care of what was on their site even though it was against their TOS until they received complaint from both Paypal and Mastercard threatening to leave if Patreon didn't comply. (And subscribestar might go the same way soonish).

Now unless there are some legal threat against Steam hosting those(which is still a possibility in the future), they won't give a flying fuck.
Quite correct and more, Steam is a big fish in the gaming scene and far less wedded to a single money processor as Patreon is. If Paypal or other creditcard firms tell Patreon to jump, they have to comply sooner or later, because they have no other substantial payment options.
Steam for all their obvious faults has a multitude of payment options, a single provider option simply has not the pull to force Steam like they can Patreon or SS. Steam only fears various government regulations and public backlash.
 

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Then please, O Wise One, explain to me why William left
He left because of problems in the family, caused by Katie over the Leia/MC thing, of course. But the "MC left all behind" ISN'T the main plot. It's just a part and ever was. Even in the really shitty old version with the fucked up graphics before the reworks.
 

Gumshoe08

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He left because of problems in the family, caused by Katie over the Leia/MC thing, of course. But the "MC left all behind" ISN'T the main plot. It's just a part and ever was. Even in the really shitty old version with the fucked up graphics before the reworks.
Then there was no plot, isn't the entire point of this overrated slop is the MC mending his relationship and facing his pasts. Holy fucking shit even Ocean doesnt know his own story plot.
 

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Then please, O Wise One, explain to me why William left
It's quite simple once you get with the program.

Why did William Leave? Because Mafia.
Why did William come back? Because Mafia.
Why can't he just stay? Because Mafia.
Why can't they sleep around? Because Mafia.
Why can't they marry who they want? Because Mafia.
Why are there plot holes? Because Mafia.
Why does this make so little sense? Because Mafia.

Catch my drift? Every time something feels off and you don't know why just think, yeah you guessed it, Mafia! ;)

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byaaahh

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It's quite simple once you get with the program.

Why did William Leave? Because Mafia.
Why did William come back? Because Mafia.
Why can't he just stay? Because Mafia.
Why can't they sleep around? Because Mafia.
Why can't they marry who they want? Because Mafia.
Why are there plot holes? Because Mafia.
Why does this make so little sense? Because Mafia.

Catch my drift? Every time something feels off and you don't know why just think, yeah you guessed it, Mafia! ;)

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Dr.TSoni

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It's quite simple once you get with the program.

Why did William Leave? Because Mafia.
Why did William come back? Because Mafia.
Why can't he just stay? Because Mafia.
Why can't they sleep around? Because Mafia.
Why can't they marry who they want? Because Mafia.
Why are there plot holes? Because Mafia.
Why does this make so little sense? Because Mafia.

Catch my drift? Every time something feels off and you don't know why just think, yeah you guessed it, Mafia! ;)

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At this point, rather than prohibiting Leia and William from being together by "law", wouldn't it have been better if the conflict was between Leia who is comfortable with a life of crime and William who wants a quiet one?
 
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Oasis951

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It's quite simple once you get with the program.

Why did William Leave? Because Mafia.
Why did William come back? Because Mafia.
Why can't he just stay? Because Mafia.
Why can't they sleep around? Because Mafia.
Why can't they marry who they want? Because Mafia.
Why are there plot holes? Because Mafia.
Why does this make so little sense? Because Mafia.

Catch my drift? Every time something feels off and you don't know why just think, yeah you guessed it, Mafia! ;)

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You might as well write the story at this point :ROFLMAO:
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Gumshoe08

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It's quite simple once you get with the program.

Why did William Leave? Because Mafia.
Why did William come back? Because Mafia.
Why can't he just stay? Because Mafia.
Why can't they sleep around? Because Mafia.
Why can't they marry who they want? Because Mafia.
Why are there plot holes? Because Mafia.
Why does this make so little sense? Because Mafia.

Catch my drift? Every time something feels off and you don't know why just think, yeah you guessed it, Mafia! ;)

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I see. Those cringe ass dialogues is because of those damned lvl 99 mafia boss!
 

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At this point, rather than prohibiting Leia and William from being together by "law", wouldn't it have been better if the conflict was between Leia who is comfortable with a life of crime and William who wants a quiet one?
Ocean could’ve fixed it by making Katie and Leia already engaged — that way, any romantic interaction with them would look really bad. But then he’d have to kill off the whole Zoey/Katie thing.
 

Gumshoe08

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Ocean could’ve fixed it by making Katie and Leia already engaged — that way, any romantic interaction with them would look really bad. But then he’d have to kill off the whole Zoey/Katie thing.
Ocean and the word "fixed" definitely doesn't mix well. They're like mortal enemies, 7 years and he cant even fix his game's plot and we're still in the intro in both games.
 

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At this point, rather than prohibiting Leia and William from being together by "law", wouldn't it have been better if the conflict was between Leia who is comfortable with a life of crime and William who wants a quiet one?
Where's the fun in that :ROFLMAO:.
 
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You all really don't get it. Ocean is setting it up for another remake in future:HideThePain:. SG already got fucked and well he while at it, why not fuck up this one too. He's playing 4d chess. Maybe we'll see in future and by that I mean "You'll see it in future bcz I ain't playing these fuck ups anymore." Maybe all this is just a joke for him where everything overtime keeps changing absurdly... and he has deluded himself that we find it funny or he is just a scientist in disguise who proving causality, I guess we'd never know.

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Nevertheless. May all you have the courage to bear it till you're bones.
 
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So, Katie is not a sister anymore? I thought the incest patch wasn't working but now that I know they updated the relationship, the whole interaction with her feels off. MC who wants to bang literary anything was so not wanting to see her like that because her being his sister make much sense than just some mafia rule.
 
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Gumshoe08

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You all really don't get it. Ocean is setting it up for another remake in future:HideThePain:. SG already got fucked and well he while at it, why not fuck up this one too. He's playing 4d chess. Maybe we'll see in future and by that I mean "You'll see it in future bcz I ain't playing these fuck ups anymore." Maybe all this is just a joke for him where everything overtime keeps changing absurdly... and he has deluded himself that we find it funny or he is just a scientist in disguise who proving causality, I guess we'd never know.

sighs

Nevertheless. May all you have the courage to bear it till you're bones.
He remade SG like 5 times already what's 30 more remakes eh
 
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