VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[EchoAnomaly]

So, Katie is not a sister anymore? I thought the incest patch wasn't working but now that I know they updated the relationship, the whole interaction with her feels off. MC who wants to bang literary anything was so not wanting to see her like that because her being his sister make much sense than just some mafia rule.

 

[Gumshoe08]

You all really don't get it. Ocean is setting it up for another remake in future. SG already got fucked and well he while at it, why not fuck up this one too. He's playing 4d chess. Maybe we'll see in future and by that I mean "You'll see it in future bcz I ain't playing these fuck ups anymore." Maybe all this is just a joke for him where everything overtime keeps changing absurdly... and he has deluded himself that we find it funny or he is just a scientist in disguise who proving causality, I guess we'd never know.

sighs

Nevertheless. May all you have the courage to bear it till you're bones.

He remade SG like 5 times already what's 30 more remakes eh

 

[Dr.TSoni]

You all really don't get it. Ocean is setting it up for another remake in future. SG already got fucked and well he while at it, why not fuck up this one too. He's playing 4d chess. Maybe we'll see in future and by that I mean "You'll see it in future bcz I ain't playing these fuck ups anymore." Maybe all this is just a joke for him where everything overtime keeps changing absurdly... and he has deluded himself that we find it funny or he is just a scientist in disguise who proving causality, I guess we'd never know.

sighs

Nevertheless. May all you have the courage to bear it till you're bones.

No, Ocean has to stick to his new style
1-3 family drama
4-6 crime drama
7-9 sci-fi

In the finale of chapter 6 William is being brought before the mafia court. Beginning of chapter 7 William is before the galactic council of the artificial colony of Alpha Centauri Wollust-08, to answer for crimes against the selection for the advancement of the species, given the difficult environment and the scarcity of resources the matings are decreed by the council to ensure the best genetic traits in future generations........

 

[| Vee |]

He remade SG like 5 times already what's 30 more remakes eh

Don't scratch my wounds blud. And there are about 30 chapters in total more or less .
Anyway Ocean will keep bullshitting and I made a comment a while back in other thread about how many time ocean has tweaked things whether rework or rework of rework, etc. that he might've OCD. Just... Just do it once and for all you're already taking more than 1 year to put out and update. Ruined such amazing character's and a worthy story to just a shell.

Anyway Keep bullshitting yourself OCEAN. Adios!

 

[X2JZcf]

You're not a Mafioso

Leia killed her future fiancé from a powerful family because he wanted her to betray the Zaynes and the Aranos and hand over the entire business. Her only way out is a close childhood friend. However, they cannot be together because Leia is already a target.
And now Leia is facing excommunicado (rest in peace, John Wick).

 

[zandalari]

I'm wondering how long until he announces a remake. He has proven he doesn't "think", he "feels". Right now he's managed to convince himself that it's fine, but if he loses his marbles over not having the right song for a cinematic, then eventually the first 3 chapters will start sticking out like hemorrhoids. And off we go..

But the new 5 year remake won't kill the game, only the fans. What is more likely to end it all is some music license expiring or being pulled and him choking on a mettbrötchen out of sorrow. The development saga will be worthy of a book written about it.

 

[X2JZcf]

I'm wondering how long until he announces a remake. He has proven he doesn't "think", he "feels". Right now he's managed to convince himself that it's fine, but if he loses his marbles over not having the right song for a cinematic, then eventually the first 3 chapters will start sticking out like hemorrhoids. And off we go..

But the new 5 year remake won't kill the game, only the fans. What is more likely to end it all is some music license expiring or being pulled and him choking on a mettbrötchen out of sorrow. The development saga will be worthy of a book written about it.

He can retcon anything he wants, since even William is an unreliable narrator.

 

[Maccabbee]

C'mon, this is just getting stupid now. Give it a rest.

 

[LHDLLB]

No, Ocean has to stick to his new style
1-3 family drama
4-6 crime drama
7-9 sci-fi

In the finale of chapter 6 William is being brought before the mafia court. Beginning of chapter 7 William is before the galactic council of the artificial colony of Alpha Centauri Wollust-08, to answer for crimes against the selection for the advancement of the species, given the difficult environment and the scarcity of resources the matings are decreed by the council to ensure the best genetic traits in future generations........

Nah. WiaB can't go sci-fi because SG, now fantasy? WiaB can't have be with Leia or Katie because they are Gods trapped into flesh and have they só much of thinking in fucking each the world will end. Also explain why everyone is só damn horny near William. Side note, do chosing differentially leads to different outcomes for Dana and her boyfriend? I bend her over and let her worked up but did not say to go after him and seems that things did not went her way.

 

[Gumshoe08]

Nah. WiaB can't go sci-fi because SG, now fantasy? WiaB can't have be with Leia or Katie because they are Gods trapped into flesh and have they só much of thinking in fucking each the world will end. Also explain why everyone is só damn horny near William. Side note, do chosing differentially leads to different outcomes for Dana and her boyfriend? I bend her over and let her worked up but did not say to go after him and seems that things did not went her way.

WiaB and SG can't even go anywhere, Ocean is too ADHD to keep on a single track he'd always find a reason to rework the first 5 chapters.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Nah. WiaB can't go sci-fi because SG

Obviously Nika and all the LI and some side girls live in a simulation, that's why wounds heal immediately and it's possible to increase muscle mass in 2 days

now fantasy? WiaB can't have be with Leia or Katie because they are Gods trapped into flesh and have they só much of thinking in fucking each the world will end. Also explain why everyone is só damn horny near William.

I want to play this Wiab a little bit XD

 

[X2JZcf]

C'mon, this is just getting stupid now. Give it a rest.

Getting stupid?

 

[yossa999]

C'mon, this is just getting stupid now. Give it a rest.

Welcome to the thread
It's always like that after an update.

At least Ocean didn't deprive them of something truly sacred, like the scene with Marla's gun in SG. And they'll get used to the mafia. Well, maybe a dozen or two will bail out with one star review, and the rest will return when the butthurt calms down.
Unique dynamics didn't change much, Willie left Wollust no matter what. And returned back, because of Leia's call and Helen's accident. Joe is still in the prison, Dylan is still a cuck, Katie is still hurt but lusting for the MC. Leia is still the bitch. The real loss is the chubby virgin Emily.
Just replace the word "mafia" with "incest" in this post as it was in the old WiAB and you'll find the real reason for the yapping.

So, GTA or the next update? What, I want to be funny too!

 

[RNasc4444]

C'mon, this is just getting stupid now. Give it a rest.

There is an ignore function...just saying. Or you can report posts and bring in the cleanup crew.

Nah. WiaB can't go sci-fi because SG

Right... It's not like we don't already have the miracle scratch remover.

 

[FAEN1134]

Sure. I'm to dumb to read, you know?
Emphasis on "was". It's gone and that's a good thing. And btw, I dispute that this should be the key aspect of the whole story. It was a partial aspect. Yes, but no more than that.

cost sunk fallacy, you are so deep in it you cant even acknowledge its wrong the remove incest.

 

[John972]

That's absolutely not what happened.

Patreon never gave a care of what was on their site even though it was against their TOS until they received complaint from both Paypal and Mastercard threatening to leave if Patreon didn't comply. (And subscribestar might go the same way soonish).

Now unless there are some legal threat against Steam hosting those(which is still a possibility in the future), they won't give a flying fuck.

Well, great circular argument.

So, payment processors pressured Patreon? You mean two of the same payment processors that Steam uses? Think that through for a minute...

The reasons why third parties cease support is minutiae. It's the trend over the years of support being pulled that matters. Once bitten, twice shy...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Katie is still hurt but lusting for the MC

Come on, you know it's not the same thing. Before they both would have broken a taboo now it would be Willy with a pair of cement shoes because he fucked up badly

 

[byaaahh]

Let's have a recap of what we learned and how the story progressed in Ch4:

We find out William has to meet with the Families to be judged for leaving the state
Katie shows William her clothing (we already learned and saw examples previously)
We partner with Zoey and start a business venture (which was discussed in previous chapters)
We learn that a rival gang is pushing boundaries on the Zane residence (we already knew this)
We get a tour of Leia's club and see the seedy lower floors (which we already knew about)
We see Gina being harassed by a biker (again, already established)

This chapter just felt like a whole lot of retreading. The only part that felt like progress was Dana and the apartment, all the rest we've seen/heard before in the torrent of exposition of previous chapters.

 

[yossa999]

Come on, you know it's not the same thing. Before they both would have broken a taboo now it would be Willy with a pair of cement shoes because he fucked up badly

Yeah, Zanes were some pathetic weaklings in the old WiAB. Glad that they have grown a pair.

I mean Helen's milkers, of course. Dylan is still the same cuck.

 

[LHDLLB]

Obviously Nika and all the LI and some side girls live in a simulation, that's why wounds heal immediately and it's possible to increase muscle mass in 2 days


I want to play this Wiab a little bit XD

That would actually explains things a little bit better.

Not really. Fantasy AVNs have a waying of sucking ass that is another level. But there are two or three that are really good.

There is an ignore function...just saying. Or you can report posts and bring in the cleanup crew.


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Right... It's not like we don't already have the miracle scratch remover.

I withdrawn my case