VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[yossa999]

Yossa is gonna mock me for using this word again but the dynamics between the characters are crucial in this sort of game. As such, when you don't "feel" it...it becomes quite hard to enjoy

Dude, what damn word are you talking about... Let's be honest, you like talking about these games more than playing them. I'm kind of surprised you can even play any of them with your picky tastes.
In the other game thread you said you didn't like ANY of the LIs! Didn't like ANY of the four!

And here we're talking about Ocean's games, who is still searching for "form and land".

So everything will remain the same, I will enjoy new WiAB and SG updates, you will pine for the lost uniqueness of the dynamics, and that weird guy I told you about will continue to run around the threads of other games and complain that they don't have sex, just like in WiAB.

 

[John972]

Spoiler: You got at least some of that wrong

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Yeah, my bad. I wrote "Wollust" because I was originally gonna write that Miru went from Japan to the "United States" - but I wasn't sure what galaxy, let alone what country the OceanVerse is canonically set in.

The game as it stands (annoyingly) doesn't specifically state how long William was away. The lowest confirmed estimate is 7 years, six months based on what's said implicitly. However it's likely longer than that because the duration of William's pretrial and sentencing (between arrest and imprisonment) and the time Miru remained with her existing boyfriend after Will was released are not accounted for.

 

[RNasc4444]

Dude, what damn word are you talking about

Let's be honest, you like talking about these games more than playing them. I'm kind of surprised you can even play any of them with your picky tastes.

100%! I've stated this before. I enjoy these 2 threads more than the games themselves at this point.

In the other game thread you said you didn't like ANY of the LIs! Didn't like ANY of the four!

Can you blame me?!?!?! They are awful! All 4! The game itself is quite enjoyable though.

And here we're talking about Ocean's games, who is still searching for "form and land".

No clue what you meant by this.

 

[LHDLLB]

The hill I set myself up to die on is that Ocean had to go all-in or all-out with WIAB/SG. He chose to go all out. I acknowledge that things would've been much easier (story wise) if he went all-in.

Did he though ? I mean he did, half of this update is making clear that they aren't related in any possible way. But that it also is a very bad and naugthy, naugthy thing that Katie give William a peck when they were kids because "mob law", or William and Kat or William and Leia for less than clear reasons. Ocean cleary wants this relationship to be taboo, even if only for the characters, but them even them dont feels this way, nor the player só why try make gems out of collored glass ? Go all out, go all out, and change the story.

 

[LHDLLB]

I don't recall any direct link between William creampieing Monica and William leaving. I think it's just stated that he left Mon on the kitchen table because he realized who he really loved. That hasn't changed from Ch 1- 3 to Ch 1 - 4.

Both versions have conversations where William blames Katie for knowing something she could spill the beans on as a factor in his leaving. Most of us speculated that Katie saw William and Leia in an inappropriate act. Ch 1 - 4 hasn't confirmed that at all.

It was always fan speculation. But I think it still is the only thing that makes full sense with the information we have, unless William fall in love with 10 years old Katie. Is true that nothing was confirmed, that why I think Ocean needs to put some ground in this story.

 

[RNasc4444]

It was always fan speculation. But I think it still is the only thing that makes full sense with the information we have, unless William fall in love with 10 years old Katie. Is true that nothing was confirmed, that why I think Ocean needs to put some ground in this story.

You guys keep assuming Katie is 18 at most. She could be older. She doesn't strike me as a first year in College. Also even as kids she didn't seem more like 3 or 4 years younger than Willi and Leia. I'm guessing in the 20-21 range. Even the way she talks about her passion for fashion and her future kinda supports the idea that she might be near senior year of College, no?

 

[byaaahh]

You guys keep assuming Katie is 18 at most. She could be older. She doesn't strike me as a first year in College. Also even as kids she didn't seem more like 3 or 4 years younger than Willi and Leia. I'm guessing in the 20-21 range. Even the way she talks about her passion for fashion and her future kinda supports the idea that she might be near senior year of College, no?

William has been placed in the 24-26 range, that's the range Katie would need to be for any sexual interaction with William prior to his leaving be within the rules.

We know she is a few years younger so... yeah

 

[LHDLLB]

You guys keep assuming Katie is 18 at most. She could be older. She doesn't strike me as a first year in College. Also even as kids she didn't seem more like 3 or 4 years younger than Willi and Leia. I'm guessing in the 20-21 range. Even the way she talks about her passion for fashion and her future kinda supports the idea that she might be near senior year of College, no?

Don't remember when but Katie is confirmed 19 years old

 

[Maviarab]

Dude, what damn word are you talking about... Let's be honest, you like talking about these games more than playing them. I'm kind of surprised you can even play any of them with your picky tastes.
In the other game thread you said you didn't like ANY of the LIs! Didn't like ANY of the four!

And here we're talking about Ocean's games, who is still searching for "form and land".

So everything will remain the same, I will enjoy new WiAB and SG updates, you will pine for the lost uniqueness of the dynamics, and that weird guy I told you about will continue to run around the threads of other games and complain that they don't have sex, just like in WiAB.

Shhhh.....he secretly likes Katie, Kat and Moni

 

[RNasc4444]

Don't remember when but Katie is confirmed 19 years old

Wait, really? I'm gonna dig a bit because I don't remember that being confirmed anywhere.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Don't remember when but Katie is confirmed 19 years old

I think this is data we've been using since the pre-rework where we had specific ages for William, Leia and Katie.

 

[byaaahh]

Wait, really? I'm gonna dig a bit because I don't remember that being confirmed anywhere.

I thought it was stated William was around 6 when Katie came along, but that might be from here.

 

[yossa999]

Shhhh.....he secretly likes Katie, Kat and Moni

Damn RL.
So, dynamically speaking, he should enjoy the last update.

Wait, Moni? Ah, as Monica! Nevermind then

 

[LHDLLB]

I think this is data we've been using since the pre-rework where we had specific ages for William, Leia and Katie.

Could be, but I don't think so and Katie age was already disscued. I am can always me wrong but I am farliy sure her aged is stared in game and confirmed by Ocean

Wait, really? I'm gonna dig a bit because I don't remember that being confirmed anywhere.

I think is said in this update even

 

[Kyrii]

Yay old saves don't work and I don't know if I should play without the uncensored patch

 

[Maviarab]

Yay old saves don't work and I don't know if I should play without the uncensored patch

You shouldn't.

Bye.

 

[Rugerrell6]

You think Katie is cute?

Not as cute as you thinking updates are going to happen more frequently...

Well isnt summers gone almost done? I thought i remember someone mentioning that. And if that is the case then theres no excuse for the dev to not spend more time on WIAB. Also I didnt say katie was cute, I said Taylor was a cutie. I just think Katie looks good I like how detailed her design is. But if it doesnt get updated more frequently, oh well I'll just forget about it and move on to something else like most people will do no biggie.

 

[Maviarab]

Well isnt summers gone almost done?

 

[byaaahh]

Well isnt summers gone almost done? I thought i remember someone mentioning that. And if that is the case then theres no excuse for the dev to not spend more time on WIAB. Also I didnt say katie was cute, I said Taylor was a cutie. I just think Katie looks good I like how detailed her design is. But if it doesnt get updated more frequently, oh well I'll just forget about it and move on to something else like most people will do no biggie.

This Summer's Gone update is almost done, Ocean said he was doing like 30 updates... we're on 6.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Did someone say cute Katie?