VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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jadepaladin

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No doubt she'll pop up in future, I can see Leia harming her and her politician father causing more issues.
Either the woman is unimportant or Ocean is not telling us her name for a reason. Most likely she is just a plot device though. I am curious as Miru's ex boyfriend, I think there was one in the OG, he worked at the police station and was a opition of NTR curious to see if this version follows the same path or is it a build up to Lucas?
It's a Revera of course. Everyone that isn't known has the last name of Revera until known.

That's some kind of luck to run away from home, trying to keep a low profile, and then get tangled up with a politician's daughter and sent to prison over it.
 
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It's a Revera of course. Everyone that isn't known has the last name of Revera until known.

That's some kind of luck to run away from home, trying to keep a low profile, and then get tangled up with a politician's daughter and sent to prison over it.
We also have not been show any Petrova.
 
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yossa999

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Just for info for those who keep saying "But Steam doesn't care about 'cest, why did he change the story if patreon deleted WiAB anyway?"
What you shouldn’t publish on Steam:
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15. Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content.
 

SonsOfLiberty

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I have updated my compressed post to "fix 1" of Chapter 4.

If you missed it, these are the changes in "Fix 1".

- Fixed a few renders.
- Fixed a ton of spelling and grammar errors throughout the game. (More to come.)
- Rearranged some renders.

Previously, I added an outline to the text to make it easier to read.
 

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Wow the story really got fucked up sideways...I came back to this after the initial rework and its a mess.It makes not sense at all with all these no we no related shit and mob crap.Hell i popped the old version and was thinking why the hell Ocean abandoned the original story which it was actually very good.Now i understand all the new low ratings.Ocean always had amazing renders but nowdays thats the only thing he has going on.7 years in the making and still no advancement or story goal.Such a shame..
 

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You can say WHIAB is full of netori.
I was more or less referring to other games.

This change is going to be a shit show though for real.

Entire storylines and thousands of lines of dialogues & code will have to be changed over the coming weeks.

Deep seated incestuous fantasies shattered over night :KEK:
 
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Turret

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It would seem that the ocean was right, but the game still turned into crap
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Well that problem exists because Ocean wants to keep his cake and still eat it!
He obviously wants to retain Kati, Leia, Helen as LIs, but that is only possible in a logical fashion if incest is also retained.
The rewrite he did is horrible trash and anybody with even a single functioning braincell can see this.
If he wants to retain a logical and fitting backstory he has to swallow the (for him) bitter pill and sacrifice the female Zane family members as LIs.
And it is not that we loose so much. We still have an array of nice LIs: Miru, Zoey, Dana, Monika, Gina, Daphne and these are only the most important ones.
 
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Crashbullet

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Helen as LIs, but that is only possible in a logical fashion if incest is also retained.
As I wrote earlier, the incest theme doesn't bother me at all, it just took the logic out of the game, in order to return this logic to the new plot, in my opinion, it was necessary to make Willie the biological son and not Katie, Katie and Leah adopted from the "noble families" left alive, for marriage unions with other families. Willie got into any of their pants, and disrupted the plans of large families, ran away, returned and immediately went to court. The Zane family was humiliated in the mafia hierarchy, the family falls apart as in the plot before the remake. That's where you can build a bridge between Zane and Grimaldi-Pepperoni.
 

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As I wrote earlier, the incest theme doesn't bother me at all, it just took the logic out of the game, in order to return this logic to the new plot, in my opinion, it was necessary to make Willie the biological son and not Katie, Katie and Leah adopted from the "noble families" left alive, for marriage unions with other families. Willie got into any of their pants, and disrupted the plans of large families, ran away, returned and immediately went to court. The Zane family was humiliated in the mafia hierarchy, the family falls apart as in the plot before the remake. That's where you can build a bridge between Zane and Grimaldi-Pepperoni.
They'd still be step-family, which is also in the crosshairs. You'll never convince me that a child, raised by a parental figure from an infant to an adult, would not be considered part of a family. Which is why I believe SG is also going to be changed... again.

The only way to make it work is if they are taken in much later than infants, or have William raised by someone other than the Zanes.
 
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