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Ray_D

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1. Mafia kills family 1 and family 2 because Mafia.
2. Mafia spares the children of family 1 and family 2 and gives them to family 3. Family 3 is Mafia.
3. Children from family 1 and family 2 grow up with child of family 3. Family 3 is very close with family 4. Family 4 is also Mafia.
4. Male child from family 2 runs away from family 3 as a teen because Mafia.
5. Male now adult from family 2 gets a call after 8 years, from family 1 female and returns home when fat lady from family 3 has accident. Accident presumably caused by Mafia.
6. Male adult can't stay unless Mafia says so because Mafia.
7. Male adult also can't pork female members of family 1, 3 or 4 because rules of Mafia.
8. Mafia determines who can marry who...because Mafia?
9. Female from family 1 is self made and successful in crime doing because piggybacking from Mafia.
10. Male from family 2 wants to be successful as well so he tries to create a porn studio :WaitWhat: Maybe that'll impress the Mafia?
11. Male has to meet big Mafiosos to learn if he can stay or be exiled from the state :LOL: Rules of Mafia.
12. FBI is "investigating" Mafia.
13. Other shenanigans happening like a cult of losers with shitty tattoos that are lowlife criminals but none of it matters because it's not Mafia.

I think that about sums it up.
Excellent summary, but you omitted the part where Internal Affairs set a trap for William to lock him up in prison.:BootyTime:
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dan_roger69

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1. Mafia kills family 1 and family 2 because Mafia.
2. Mafia spares the children of family 1 and family 2 and gives them to family 3. Family 3 is Mafia.
3. Children from family 1 and family 2 grow up with child of family 3. Family 3 is very close with family 4. Family 4 is also Mafia.
4. Male child from family 2 runs away from family 3 as a teen because Mafia.
5. Male now adult from family 2 gets a call after 8 years, from family 1 female and returns home when fat lady from family 3 has accident. Accident presumably caused by Mafia.
6. Male adult can't stay unless Mafia says so because Mafia.
7. Male adult also can't pork female members of family 1, 3 or 4 because rules of Mafia.
8. Mafia determines who can marry who...because Mafia?
9. Female from family 1 is self made and successful in crime doing because piggybacking from Mafia.
10. Male from family 2 wants to be successful as well so he tries to create a porn studio :WaitWhat: Maybe that'll impress the Mafia?
11. Male has to meet big Mafiosos to learn if he can stay or be exiled from the state :LOL: Rules of Mafia.
12. FBI is "investigating" Mafia.
13. Other shenanigans happening like a cult of losers with shitty tattoos that are lowlife criminals but none of it matters because it's not Mafia.

I think that about sums it up.
You just gave Mafia their next target :ROFLMAO:.
 

ItsNotUs

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A year and a half of development + delay due to steam issue the biggest problem with this project... I wish I could write, but...
Yes, development time is a big minus -
But changing the plot, changing family ties, turning the story into a kind of Godfather, etc. it totally sucks and it's a very big and fat minus -
Another minus is that you can't make a patch, because for this you need to change the story, hardly any of the moders will take up such an ungrateful task. However, such saves will not work in the next version!
Well, OK, why did the Ocean itself go to a complete change in the trajectory of the relationship between the heroes of the Zane family and the furthest plot!? Well, he would have made everything easier if he had called Helen, in the new reality, the Godmother or Dylan the Godfather, etc. and in the options you can change their names yourself-just remove the prefix Godfather and that's it! This step is taken by many projects and steam skips such projects as patreon (does not ban)! But no, it was necessary to completely kill the vibe relationship between the big Zane family. "Dislike"

Atmospheric dark, night, evening, club scenes are made very beautifully, but a long time ago I had fan art with Helen and William, under which one person asked is this fan art or the work of the Ocean art, to which a zen-fan who caught him replied, saying that you don't see the difference, the Ocean arts is 100 times better than the work in quality, etc.! Xd Lol
Yeah I'm not talking about atmospheric renderers, which is a big plus + it's clear that some hardware is capable of rendering dark, unlit areas very well, but Leia's yellow teeth, Katie's wet skin, and not wet Katie's, in showering scene, hair Lol is a clear minus -
Couldn't it have been done better?

It's the Ocean! A lot of boobs and constant hints of sex and naughty conversations are a big plus + but in some scenes nudity is not appropriate, this is a minus - the same scene where "Princess Leia", surrounded by her subordinates, is dressed in a transparent top without a bra and without panties Lol
It's tasteless! It kills the character's character!
Sometimes characters lose their clothes and, on the contrary, put something on top, and then they show that they are naked again, is this a minus - Is this a flaw or an omission?

We were presented with an NTR scene with Lea and apparently in the future, NTR scenes will be launched in this way, at least I hope for it because this is the easiest way to show an NTR scene to give an option and not depend on the relationship of characters! After all, in order to achieve a scene with Miru in the toilet when a bandit licks her tits, MС needs to have a positive and negative choice in her relationship with Miru at some points, then MC has an option before she goes to the bar where the bandit is standing whether William is really ready to go for it or not! If you always do a negative choice in your relationship with Miru, then there is no such choice. There is no scene in the toilet, but there is another difference. She tells MC in one of their morning conversations lying naked on the bed that she would rather go to drink coffee or do something with Dylan. In the same thread, the negative choice is somehow triggered a open relationship between Katie and her girlfriend Zoey, they allegedly entered into it!
How it all doesn't fit! Why is everything so confusing here?
In the first case, William and Miru enter into a open relationship, in the second, Katie and Zoey! WTF???
Therefore, just the option to be on the NTR scene or not looks more reasonable than such tricks in the playground! Variability is good, but even on CTRL, it takes at least half an hour to just scip the game from start to "end" (to see the different options)! Variability is good + but confusion is bad -

Yes, in the new update there are more boobs and cocks, but there is no sex... This is a big minus - and you don't have to write that this is a slow plotting. William had at least two situations in the story, one whit Lea at the very beginning of the update, when he stayed to her place, and even she said that she shouldn't have shaved her pubis because he didn't "try" her.
The second situation is with the Zoey at the end of the update, when they came from the club, he licked her wet pussy, but nothing happened next! In my main playground, I aim for an open relationship with Miru, but I always make a choice in her favor, making only a positive choice with her. Zoey says that she and William cannot have sex because they are not in a open relationship with Katie!
But we look above:
I make a negative choice with Miru through CTRL, and they're in open relationship, but she still won't let William fuck her! Lol WTF???
William is faithful to Miru in the story, he doesn't make moves towards other girls thinking that I can't do this to Miru or that these girls have boyfriends, although, fucking, this doesn't stop him from flirting on the right and on the left, groping girls and kissing them! Lol
Long Damn Plot Build!
That's what are called the Blue Balls!

When will the next update be released? Not an uncut version? In which, Ok Ocean will think about the taboo patch and William and Leia's relationship! Lol
It is clear that Zen-fans who have caught Zen and are waiting for anyone to come out of the Ocean, as for me personal relationships(taboo) has played big role! But there's nothing you can do about it.
Oh and yes, I thought after several attempts to replay the old one in different ways, I'd look at that in the gallery, but gallery still doesn't work, a very fat minus - is
GG WP...
 
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KiryuKazuma095

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A year and a half of development + delay due to steam issue the biggest problem with this project... I wish I could write, but...
Yes, development time is a big minus -
But changing the plot, changing family ties, turning the story into a kind of Godfather, etc. it totally sucks and it's a very big and fat minus -
Another minus is that you can't make a patch, because for this you need to change the story, hardly any of the moders will take up such an ungrateful task. However, such saves will not work in the next version!
Well, OK, why did the Ocean itself go to a complete change in the trajectory of the relationship between the heroes of the Zane family and the furthest plot!? Well, he would have made everything easier if he had called Helen, in the new reality, the Godmother or Dylan the Godfather, etc. and in the options you can change their names yourself-just remove the prefix Godfather and that's it! This step is taken by many projects and steam skips such projects as patreon (does not ban)! But no, it was necessary to completely kill the vibe relationship between the big Zane family. "Dislike"

Atmospheric dark, night, evening, club scenes are made very beautifully, but a long time ago I had fan art with Helen and William, under which one person asked is this fan art or the work of the Ocean art, to which a zen-fan who caught him replied, saying that you don't see the difference, the Ocean arts is 100 times better than the work in quality, etc.! Xd Lol
Yeah I'm not talking about atmospheric renderers, which is a big plus + it's clear that some hardware is capable of rendering dark, unlit areas very well, but Leia's yellow teeth, Katie's wet skin, and not wet Katie's, in showering scene, hair Lol is a clear minus -
Couldn't it have been done better?

It's the Ocean! A lot of boobs and constant hints of sex and naughty conversations are a big plus + but in some scenes nudity is not appropriate, this is a minus - the same scene where "Princess Leia", surrounded by her subordinates, is dressed in a transparent top without a bra and without panties Lol
It's tasteless! It kills the character's character!
Sometimes characters lose their clothes and, on the contrary, put something on top, and then they show that they are naked again, is this a minus - Is this a flaw or an omission?

We were presented with an NTR scene with Lea and apparently in the future, NTR scenes will be launched in this way, at least I hope for it because this is the easiest way to show an NTR scene to give an option and not depend on the relationship of characters! After all, in order to achieve a scene with Miru in the toilet when a bandit licks her tits, MС needs to have a positive and negative choice in her relationship with Miru at some points, then MC has an option before she goes to the bar where the bandit is standing whether William is really ready to go for it or not! If you always do a negative choice in your relationship with Miru, then there is no such choice. There is no scene in the toilet, but there is another difference. She tells MC in one of their morning conversations lying naked on the bed that she would rather go to drink coffee or do something with Dylan. In the same thread, the negative choice is somehow triggered a open relationship between Katie and her girlfriend Zoey, they allegedly entered into it!
How it all doesn't fit! Why is everything so confusing here?
In the first case, William and Miru enter into a open relationship, in the second, Katie and Zoey! WTF???
Therefore, just the option to be on the NTR scene or not looks more reasonable than such tricks in the playground! Variability is good, but even on CTRL, it takes at least half an hour to just scip the game from start to "end" (to see the different options)! Variability is good + but confusion is bad -

Yes, in the new update there are more boobs and cocks, but there is no sex... This is a big minus - and you don't have to write that this is a slow plotting. William had at least two situations in the story, one thit Lea at the very beginning of the update, when he stayed to her place, and even she said that she shouldn't have shaved her pubis because he didn't "try" her.
The second situation is with the Zoey at the end of the update, when they came from the club, he licked her wet pussy, but nothing happened next! In my main playground, I aim for an open relationship with Miru, but I always make a choice in her favor, making only a positive choice with her. Zoey says that she and William cannot have sex because they are not in a open relationship with Katie!
But we look above:
I make a negative choice with Miru through CTRL, and they're in open relationship, but she still won't let William fuck her! Lol WTF???
William is faithful to Miru in the story, he doesn't make moves towards other girls thinking that I can't do this to Miru or that these girls have boyfriends, although, fucking, this doesn't stop him from flirting on the right and on the left, groping girls and kissing them! Lol
Long Damn Plot Build!
That's what are called the Blue Balls!

When will the next update be released? Not an uncut version? In which, Ok Ocean will think about the taboo patch and William and Leia's relationship! Lol
It is clear that Zen-fans who have caught Zen and are waiting for anyone to come out of the Ocean, as for me personal relationships(taboo) has played big role! But there's nothing you can do about it.
Oh and yes, I thought after several attempts to replay the old one in different ways, I'd look at that in the gallery, but gallery still doesn't work, a very fat minus - is
GG WP...
The story turned to something but It's too far away to any crime series/movie I have see that part of the story is way of and makes 0 sense at all...
 

Icekatana

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1. Mafia kills family 1 and family 2 because Mafia.
2. Mafia spares the children of family 1 and family 2 and gives them to family 3. Family 3 is Mafia.
3. Children from family 1 and family 2 grow up with child of family 3. Family 3 is very close with family 4. Family 4 is also Mafia.
4. Male child from family 2 runs away from family 3 as a teen because Mafia.
5. Male now adult from family 2 gets a call after 8 years, from family 1 female and returns home when fat lady from family 3 has accident. Accident presumably caused by Mafia.
6. Male adult can't stay unless Mafia says so because Mafia.
7. Male adult also can't pork female members of family 1, 3 or 4 because rules of Mafia.
8. Mafia determines who can marry who...because Mafia?
9. Female from family 1 is self made and successful in crime doing because piggybacking from Mafia.
10. Male from family 2 wants to be successful as well so he tries to create a porn studio :WaitWhat: Maybe that'll impress the Mafia?
11. Male has to meet big Mafiosos to learn if he can stay or be exiled from the state :LOL: Rules of Mafia.
12. FBI is "investigating" Mafia.
13. Other shenanigans happening like a cult of losers with shitty tattoos that are lowlife criminals but none of it matters because it's not Mafia.

I think that about sums it up.
I hate how painfully accurate this is. Lol.
 

Tremonia

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Just pretend you're working for the German Taxation. The Mafia isn't foolish enough to deal with them. :WeSmart:
And yet they do it. Germany is the largest money laundering hub in the EU. For which Germany is regularly criticized by the EU. Money laundering only works with the tax office, and according to the Bundeskriminalamt, the Italian mafia is the main user of the system. So they are actually very familiar with the German tax system.

I just don't understand what all the constant complaining about Ocean's stories about his frustrations has to do with the game itself. I mean, dev's really can't please people. On the one hand, people always want to know exactly how the game's development is going. On the other hand, they make fun of developers who are transparent and write about the things that steal time and distract them from developing the game.
 

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And yet they do it. Germany is the largest money laundering hub in the EU. For which Germany is regularly criticized by the EU. Money laundering only works with the tax office, and according to the Bundeskriminalamt, the Italian mafia is the main user of the system. So they are actually very familiar with the German tax system.

I just don't understand what all the constant complaining about Ocean's stories about his frustrations has to do with the game itself. I mean, dev's really can't please people. On the one hand, people always want to know exactly how the game's development is going. On the other hand, they make fun of developers who are transparent and write about the things that steal time and distract them from developing the game.
The UK used to be the biggest money laundering hub in the EU by a long way {fact}until the Putin funded Brexit campaign saw the English voting to leave EU. It is now easy for Russian Oligarchs etc to launder their ill gotten gains thanks to the English.
 

ItsNotUs

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And yet they do it. Germany is the largest money laundering hub in the EU. For which Germany is regularly criticized by the EU. Money laundering only works with the tax office, and according to the Bundeskriminalamt, the Italian mafia is the main user of the system. So they are actually very familiar with the German tax system.

I just don't understand what all the constant complaining about Ocean's stories about his frustrations has to do with the game itself. I mean, dev's really can't please people. On the one hand, people always want to know exactly how the game's development is going. On the other hand, they make fun of developers who are transparent and write about the things that steal time and distract them from developing the game.
That's right, but the plot was remade - wasn't it!? And by the way, what was the original story about before the remake- remade!?
 

RNasc4444

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Yep, and I just added some details from the source material, following the same fun and friendly style. :KEK:
Ok ok fair enough just don't be mean to me. I'm a sensitive guy :LOL:

Or maybe they were the Robbin Hoods, the last hope against the ruthless Giuseppes. Or maybe they were undercover cops, betrayed by that dastardly traitor Sequoia or whatever his name was, who Leia supposedly had killed.
Hmm...I never considered the angle that Willi and Leia's family may not have had criminal ties. No shot they were law enforcement. 0 chance. Even Ocean has to be aware that the moment you slaughter 2 families of cops you have an ungodly amount of law enforcement agencies on your trail. Their little syndicate would never have survived a month after something like that.

The most likely possibility is a power struggle that saw the Cacio e Pepes come out on top. I don't see a justification for their slaughter if they were not criminally affiliated.
 

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Sure. Sorority sister. :giggle:
William is a police officer working undercover, who was sent to stop an international terrorist threat. (Lea's weapons schemes).
Rita is an undercover mafia who obtained a high rank with federal authorities and was sent to prevent operations from falling apart.
And these are the twins, not Leia and William.
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