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So I just finished my Lily only play through of the update and I have to say after this I really don't like Jolina at all and after those scenes she goes with Bella and Theresa in the characters I never want anything to do with ever. I understand she was pissed at being hacked but that whole scene was like something out of a bad porno and I know this is a porn VN but you guys are better writers than that it was just silly and seemed to only be there for the sex scenes.

I loved the scene with Lily though that was really well written and romantic so nice job there guys.
I see what you mean, though I don't agree 100%.

I've liked Jolina for a while and I still like her, but her scene with Jenna is really problematic. Fundamentally, it only works in the case where the MC is pursuing both her and Jenna. In cases where the MC never showed any interest in Jolina she just comes across as a borderline sex offender. In cases where the MC has never shown interest in Jenna, Jolina's method makes sense but it feels a little over the top - and Jo really should have discussed it with the MC first.

It's only in the case where the MC was fooling around with both of them that the punishment fits, and thus makes it to the relatively lighthearted zone it really needs to be in. I realize that's probably the most likely scenario for a porn game, but it's not the only scenario and quite frankly the scene needed some other variations to handle those scenarios.

This is particularly disappointing because it's the exact same problem we had in Episode 19 where the big orgy was treated as a one-size-fits-all scene regardless of how much sense it made; the only way for the MC that wasn't dating one of the girls to avoid a threesome was to storm off and hope things worked themselves out without him. [Which, BTW, is still unclear even after this update: are Lily and Debbie a thing now if the MC didn't pursue any girls on team Katie? Beats me.]


In an effort to organize the rest of my (numerous) thoughts on Episode 20, I'm going to break it down into sub-categories. Proceed at your own peril!

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My, that was quite the treatise. Since I had a lot of criticisms, let me sum up by saying I still liked the episode and do want to see this through to the end. I'm just disappointed because I feel like this game isn't living up to its full potential.

That may not be an entirely fair way to judge it, effectively asking it to live up to my own ambitions rather than accepting it for what it is. But I'd hate for WTHI to sell itself short, so I hope you'll take this as sincere advice, even if you ultimately disagree with it.
 

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Was frustrating that, on my Katie playthrough, the MC can declare his love for her yet also decide not to tell anyone else even though he hasn't been with anyone else (yes, my MC has only been with Katie in that playthrough). Would be nice to be able to decide to tell Monica and everyone but just not have it happen yet.
This I agree with but I'm also excited to see Katie's reaction when she finds out the MC is dating her Mum that is going to be hilarious when it happens :ROFLMAO:.
 
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here is my unofficial android port of Where The Heart Is Ep20.
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from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage (or a new one on Android 11 :FacePalm:), because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me ).
updated: 18.04.2021 (Ep20)
Have an issue with the game. I download the latest chapter just fine but when i try to install it, i get App Not Installed. Ive also tried uninstalling the old version first, but i still get the same error. Any ideas?
 

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Once upon a time maybe you felt the manwhore route was necessary to account for the huge number of girls and long story, and fair enough. But with the quick start option that is no longer true, and yet you keep writing as if it were. Why allow an MC who blatantly lies to the three girls (and possibly even himself) to delay the consequences of that action yet again? At a certain point I have to side with future players who will feel annoyed when a game that has repeatedly taught them to lie their way out of problems are punished for trying to lie their way out the final problem. This game's feedback system really is bordering on dysfunctional.
Honestly, the only reason I can think of as to why the MC is able to delay serious fallout with these girls and still see them behind Katie's back is to give players more possible lewd scenes with them whilst giving Katie time to (hopefully) come around to the idea of sharing him with them. I also think that, in that scenario, neither Lily nor Debbie will confess to the cheating if/when Katie decides she's OK sharing him because that would obviously do more harm than good even if it is just piling on more lies.

If I'm being optimistic, perhaps Katie enjoyed sharing him more than she's letting on and she's just afraid of what that means for both her and her relationship with the MC. Maybe she afraid that by allowing him to be with either or both of them that he'll prefer them over her, or maybe she's worried that one of them will try to steal him from her, or maybe she's worried that she'll lose her friendship with these girls if they have any kind of falling out over him. There's a whole host of reasons why she might feel insecure about this relationship, and whilst valid, they are things that you can't control and just have to hope for the best when you take a massive risk like this.

Perhaps all it would take is to convince her of that, that she shouldn't let her fears of what might happen stop her from doing what she wants in the here and now, and maybe that's how this relationship with them could resolve itself.
 
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But incest :(
Next time you blindfold Elain, have Bella partecipate (with a blindfold as well). it's not out of character because both of them will be deceived. It's a way to have a gameover this late into the game and also an horror/splatter scene when MC is discovered, maybe someone has this kind of kinks.
 
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Since my MC is not with Jenna I'd have no problem with the two ladies getting nasty together.
Breaking news as MrFriendly is okay with there being sex in the game as long as he didn't see it or have to play through it. :ROFLMAO:

I'm with you on the cliffhanger ending would've been nice to have that information before we saw Elaine, but it was what I expected always have to keep them wanting more.
 

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Have an issue with the game. I download the latest chapter just fine but when i try to install it, i get App Not Installed. Ive also tried uninstalling the old version first, but i still get the same error. Any ideas?
either provide enough space for an installation or check logcat for hints of the problem.
 
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I don't know if it will be hilarious, gruesome for sure
While I agree that if the MC is dating both Katie and Monica at the same time and she finds out that's going to be gruesome. I was meaning that in my Monica only save it's going to be funny when she finds out the MC is dating her Mum. The banter between her and the MC is going to be hilarious.
 

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This I agree with but I'm also excited to see Katie's reaction when she finds out the MC is dating her Mum that is going to be hilarious when it happens :ROFLMAO:.
Yeah, if Monica doesn't suddenly come to her senses and realize that the MC's dick, though magical, isn't enough of a reason to destroy her relationship with her daughters.

I want the revelation of who he is fucking to happen soon, his declaration of love (or not), the fallout to all of it. Having to pickup the pieces after all that he has done (or who he has done) will hopefully be deliciously terrible and, perhaps, humorous. Just going to be a long time getting there...

Breaking news as MrFriendly is okay with there being sex in the game as long as he didn't see it or have to play through it. :ROFLMAO:

I'm with you on the cliffhanger ending would've been nice to have that information before we saw Elaine, but it was what I expected always have to keep them wanting more.
:ROFLMAO:

I understand that the game is very much sex first and everything else a distant second, it's just frustrating that it is written in such a way that even when you play the MC as someone who is committed to only one woman you spend every update turning down women who get overly upset about the fact that the MC is turning them down (can't the game be programmed in such a manner as to check if a character was turned down and then not ask every time the game is updated?) As if the MC should, of course, be fucking them all even though the game is NOT going to have a harem. You can declare your love for Katie in front of her friends and those same "best" friends will step up and ask about fucking behind her back...

Anyway, just something I noticed as I played through the game on my Katie path, I quickstarted for everything else.
 

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The first time I played the new episode it I was really disappointed with the lack of content. I got the Katie sex scene, skipped the Hoelina scene (I was aware I was skipping a scene), the Natasha scene and the Elaine scene. I replayed the episode a few more times with other variables and also seen the Lily, Debbie and Hoelina scenes. I think that's all in the episode.

The sex scenes were good, Hoelinas was the best which is surprising. But the rest was nearly non existing The opening talk with the three Stooges is 96% the same, no matter what happend the night before. Debbie always says that she can her the MC behind her, even when she told him to follow her outside, yeah no joke fucking goldfish. Dogboy always appears even if you don't fuck his mom, I would give her up if it meant being done with him but nope.
Natasha was okay, I like her but that fucking cuck stuff, Elaine was a well made part but it's been too long, why is it so shooking that she send the E-Mail?, I really hope that this does not get treated like the usb stick and it takes 4 episodes till MC does anything at all with it.

I was aware that this will be disappointing unless they just drop the full game, it's good that there was zero hype this time for me. Feels like it takes longer and longer to drop less content, not nearly as bad as SS but it goes in that direction.
 

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we getting to the point where we have to choose our LI, just in this update there was options to tell 4 girls we want a serious relationship with them so im gonna guess we will soon see the start of the downfall for the people trying to catch them all
 
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exactly
and thats only one of the story changes you get with this update
like i mentioned before - if you (on katie path)drop katie after the beachhouse party you dump debbie and lily too
for some unknown reason

Obviously this is how rumours start. Someone plays an update, doesn't quite get what is happening, assumes the worst and starts presenting that as a fact, others jump on the bandwagon, without verifying first and pass judgment.
Really doesn't seem to matter whether it's a game or a person, this here is basically modern social media fauxrage 101.

Just because YOU as the MC can push Jenna into a threesome with Jo, doesn't mean Jenna will do anything without you.
What she wants to do is make amends for humiliating and hurting Jo and if that includes stripping, that might be sexy, but isn't in any way a betrayal or a sexual act of any form (sexy does not equal sex act ;) )or the dreaded three letters.

I really don't get why people go off half cocked so often nowadays, it is as if asking for clarification or just checking if you could have misunderstood something is the worst thing possible.
 

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we getting to the point where we have to choose our LI, just in this update there was options to tell 4 girls we want a serious relationship with them so im gonna guess we will soon see the start of the downfall for the people trying to catch them all
Considering that you can now start at any episode, with any relationship combination you want, it won't be a hard fall. :cool:
 
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