VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Deleted member 3325933]

The genesis of the conversation was Avaron1974 said...

... in response to someone stating they always wondered why harem content wasn't standard to games so that people could witness all the hard work a developer puts into a game instead of a limited amount, and in the original non edited version of the post, Avaron ended the post by saying and i quote "If you want porn fuck off to pornhub." which has since been edited out by a moderator.

So that is how the conversation started that was the whole point of me getting into the conversation was to challenge the notion that harem = kinetic novel and their rude conduct towards other people. when i did challenge this non sensical position Avaron went on and on when they though harem should or shouldn't be added to the game. Which had fuck all to do with my post. And completely ignored there hostile attack on someone's likes.

You jumped into the conversation and then claim I took things out of context. Okay fair enough but I just assumed you took your position because you knew Avaron made that claim and your were adding support to said claim by your expressing of your feelings toward harem and choice. I could not take your position any other way then I did because the whole point of the conversation you joined was a challenge to the claim Harem = kinetic novel. And you didn't make any caveats with regards to your position and the original premise that Avaron1974 made.

This is text so this likely sounds like i am annoyed or belittling you, neither is true. I can assume now that you had no idea that you were joining a conversation that took the hardline stance that harem = kinetic novel but as you can see from the quote that was exactly what avaron was claiming so i assumed anyone joining the conversation with a similar position to avaron shared their position unless they directly stated otherwise and that is why i responded the way i did.

You missed the point AGAIN. A ridiculous amount of thread content (Not yours by the way) has been whining about this not being a Harem story. The Devs and many others, Avaron1974 included, have replied over and over that this was never an option and that the story is a different vein, path, genre, whatever. Avaron1974 saw with much clarity and release of angst (she never does this) that is if that is what a person wants all the time then it is a Kinetic novel. Think about it. If the same story line is reproduced over and over just changing some text and pictures it is nothing like a game of choices or a story of choices. It is the same result and therefore a Kinetic Novel like dozens, if not hundreds, of others. This game was not intended that way. For those posters to be that (here comes my cheap shot) mono brow that they are incapable of discerning this they may need an angst laden rebuttal. IMO.

Note: To my knowledge, moderators do not waste their time editing posts. They delete posts. If the post was edited the poster did it. Just sayin'.

 

[Avaron1974]

Note: To my knowledge, moderators do not waste their time editing posts. They delete posts. If the post was edited the poster did it. Just sayin'.

Mods edit posts quite a lot.

The only time I ever edit my posts is to correct spelling mistakes. If I type something, I mean it and stand by it, don't feel the need to correct myself.

If I told someone to fuck off to pornhub then that's exactly what I meant to type.

Also.......

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[Night Hacker]

You missed the point AGAIN. A ridiculous amount of thread content (Not yours by the way) has been whining about this not being a Harem story. The Devs and many others, Avaron1974 included, have replied over and over that this was never an option and that the story is a different vein, path, genre, whatever. Avaron1974 saw with much clarity and release of angst (she never does this) that is if that is what a person wants all the time then it is a Kinetic novel. Think about it. If the same story line is reproduced over and over just changing some text and pictures it is nothing like a game of choices or a story of choices. It is the same result and therefore a Kinetic Novel like dozens, if not hundreds, of others. This game was not intended that way. For those posters to be that (here comes my cheap shot) mono brow that they are incapable of discerning this they may need an angst laden rebuttal. IMO.

Note: To my knowledge, moderators do not waste their time editing posts. They delete posts. If the post was edited the poster did it. Just sayin'.

If the end of the story is the same, it is still not kinetic if there are different paths which lead to that end. Kinetic novels, by definition offer no choice at all and are simply like real life novels. A kinetic novel offers little to no choice at all. If you can play the game a second time, and take a different path which results in a different story, even with the same ending, than it is not a kinetic novel. It may or may not be a boring game with very little incentive to play it again, but it will not be a kinetic novel.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Mods edit posts quite a lot.

The only time I ever edit my posts is to correct spelling mistakes. If I type something, I mean it and stand by it, don't feel the need to correct myself.

If I told someone to fuck off to pornhub then that's exactly what I meant to type.

Also.......

TY. Interesting I never saw that previously. Maybe it was just the raw toxicity of the AWAM main thread.

 

[walker188]

sadly i think there will be no duo ending...i wished to commit to the whole family..Monica is too sweet and sexy to give up...as the 2 daughtyer...quitting on 5 milions dollars i think would be worth a little family sharing...sigh

After that last update i really think you can have SPOILERS!!!!!!









SPOILERS

both sisters together as an ending OR maybe some combo of Debbie/Lily or Debbie/Lily/Katy.

 

[WheresLucifer]

Well, I kind-of agree with some of the comments. It all up to the developer(s) to provide their story, weather we like it or not. If the developer believe MC should get all the girls, then let it happens. Other developers believe there is limited option to choose from and it direct you to a different path. Nothing wrong with that. What it means there multiple endings when it get completed. I rather see how the developer provide their VN in their own ways. Beside looking forward to the next updates.

Have a great day and be safe...

 

[snakeplisskin]

So I have been going over everything in my head and it makes complete sense to me that Bella is the gold digger and has been playing the MC against Elaine from the start.

however I had a thought what if Elaine didn’t send the emails and it was actually Bella dressed up to look like Elaine. We only have Jo’s word it was Elaine.

My other theory is that it was Elaine but she was convinced to not only send the emails but from the coffee shop instead of using her home computer by Bella.

 

[Deleted member 4696794]

Hey everyone, I was wondering, is there any way to fuck Jolina in this new episode? Because no matter what is my relationship with Bella, she always appears at the MC house that night at the final escene

 

[JackMiejov]

is there any way to fuck Jolina in this new episode?

No.

 

[ename144]

I think i figured it out. BaDK devs took a hard stance of no haerm. But it paid off. The production value of that game was out of this world. The best of the best. So many paths in the story. Perfect renders and animations.

"Where the heart is" devs thought they'd copy that success due to a myopic understanding of what made that game great. They tried to end it with a similar ending with only one sole interest LI. Clearly it didn't work out so well.

The game should've just went pure harem with its inferior renders, animations and story. It would've been legendary, but instead it ended up as a "meh game".

Sad days, folks. Sad days.

BaDIK is a very different game. It has a lot more gameplay elements and a focus on 'paths' for the main girls that quickly diverge; as early as Episode 2, dancing with Sage costs you a chance to see Maya's family pictures. WtHI keeps the focus more on the girls themselves, with the secondary focus on the relationships between them. We get lots of opportunities with a large number of girls, but very few of those opportunities are mutually exclusive. Instead the girls themselves will inquire about the MC's other activities and make clear they aren't interested in sharing him (with a few notable exceptions). Eventually we start getting suspicion points as it grows more difficult to keep juggling the numerous relationships in secret.

Both games give numerous indications that we can't have all the girls, it's just that BaDIK reinforces that message mechanically with mutually exclusive options early on. Personally, I think WtHI would have benefited from something similar to make it clear that we follow multiple girls at our own peril. Arguably that would have interfered with this game's more 'sandbox' approach to the girls, but it might have saved us some headaches now.

Either way, this game wasn't going to have a classic harem setup any more that BaDIK was, and I personally am grateful for that. To me, harems aren't interesting unless they play very differently than romancing the various girls individually, which required an inordinate amount of effort to write.

 

[gambit87]

I would like to know if there is a chance at some point in the game to impregnate all or some female characters?

 

[milos1fan]

There have been constant warnings that the girls wouldn't share.

Katie was only willing to share with the girls but jealousy still gets involved. None of the older women are willing at all.

It's not like it was sprung on you, you've had warnings. None of it was a surprise.

This is as laughable as those complaining about Becoming a Rockstar having all the LI's dump the MC if he was dating them all, they also gave you plenty of warning they wouldn't share.

It's like some of you ignore everything you get told and make up your own narrative.

Why does the Mc in that game look like a Guatemalan?

 

[milos1fan]

Natasha seemed dead set on being with the mc. Most people would just directly go for their revenge after what went down at her party. Is she pregnant?

 

[wolfpackjac3]

I think i figured it out. BaDK devs took a hard stance of no haerm. But it paid off. The production value of that game was out of this world. The best of the best. So many paths in the story. Perfect renders and animations.

"Where the heart is" devs thought they'd copy that success due to a myopic understanding of what made that game great. They tried to end it with a similar ending with only one sole interest LI. Clearly it didn't work out so well.

The game should've just went pure harem with its inferior renders, animations and story. It would've been legendary, but instead it ended up as a "meh game".

Sad days, folks. Sad days.

The dev Dr Pinkcake received a ton of backlash for that decision. He didn't just not allow harem, he killed off a character based on user choice and put another in the loony bin. He is still the best dev around no question, but I don't think that decision is seen as the reason. Dev's still have the right to do what they want, just like supporters have the right to complain or commend.

 

[charlesrich]

They sort of hinted at it with Lily. Then you and her have a scene and you can finish in her, which makes me think that is an option.

 

[RoadWulf]

The Mc doesn't get any Aha Moments yet. he is a silver tongue devil great with the words and we can help with the girls we don't want or how we want to respond but he needs to get smart really soon. and start seeing what we see or at least think about it some

He loses the ability to think when there are boobs in the room.

So it is impossible for something to exist unless it was specifically detailed by the Dev in the first paragraph. I call BS. There is nothing that precludes this concept at all. The beach party uh just spitballing but, MC told security that three super hot girls were coming to his house. Did we need to know that, at that point in time, for the story to be believable? Nope. Further, depending on your choices with Bella you may have elected to give her the option of living with you at the Beach house if Elaine tosses her. The MC could easily add her to the access list. The same with Jolina. Since Elaine has a house he can restrict her access based on she has no need.

Both Elaine and Bella had been there many times PRIOR to the MC having it as his house. Therefore a standing guest list would likely exist (as many security companies do). Once MC is owner he adjusts/eliminates the list and puts it on a case by case basis. None of this is difficult and is real.

The problem here is that Bella gets on the property without any problems, regardless of whether you've offered for her to come to stay in the past or not. In fact if you've gone out of your way to blow her off entirely, she still shows up. She still gets through. So even if he was setting up on a case by case basis, that wouldn't have been the case here. Also, with Elaine, she has been there with him after he had taken ownership as well, just like Bella. So if security is letting Bella through without clearance, they should have had no reason to stop Elaine either.

It's a plot hole.

 

[G27111]

The genesis of the conversation was Avaron1974 said...

... in response to someone stating they always wondered why harem content wasn't standard to games so that people could witness all the hard work a developer puts into a game instead of a limited amount, and in the original non edited version of the post, Avaron ended the post by saying and i quote "If you want porn fuck off to pornhub." which has since been edited out by a moderator.

So that is how the conversation started that was the whole point of me getting into the conversation was to challenge the notion that harem = kinetic novel and their rude conduct towards other people. when i did challenge this non sensical position Avaron went on and on when they though harem should or shouldn't be added to the game. Which had fuck all to do with my post. And completely ignored there hostile attack on someone's likes.

You jumped into the conversation and then claim I took things out of context. Okay fair enough but I just assumed you took your position because you knew Avaron made that claim and your were adding support to said claim by your expressing of your feelings toward harem and choice. I could not take your position any other way then I did because the whole point of the conversation you joined was a challenge to the claim Harem = kinetic novel. And you didn't make any caveats with regards to your position and the original premise that Avaron1974 made.

This is text so this likely sounds like i am annoyed or belittling you, neither is true. I can assume now that you had no idea that you were joining a conversation that took the hardline stance that harem = kinetic novel but as you can see from the quote that was exactly what avaron was claiming so i assumed anyone joining the conversation with a similar position to avaron shared their position unless they directly stated otherwise and that is why i responded the way i did.

unless i quoted or replied to you i was speaking in general, i wasnt talking about the kinectic novel thing at all, thats someone elses opinion not mine lol. I dont think if you like harem or want harem you should just play a KN, said multiple times that some games i like as a harem, this game i think works best as it is.

 

[Olsens.M]

So I have been going over everything in my head and it makes complete sense to me that Bella is the gold digger and has been playing the MC against Elaine from the start.

however I had a thought what if Elaine didn’t send the emails and it was actually Bella dressed up to look like Elaine. We only have Jo’s word it was Elaine.

My other theory is that it was Elaine but she was convinced to not only send the emails but from the coffee shop instead of using her home computer by Bella.

The CCTV videos shows bella. It is not only about Jolina confirming it. At least from what we saw on CCTV video it was Elaine who went to that coffee shop as well.

 

[Olsens.M]

I made a new gameplay where Lily still wants my mc despite the fact he likes katie, in a hope that katie will accept a relationship with the 2 of them. The same happens with jenna. Monica even thinks that our mc is fucking her daughters but tells him she doesn't want anything happened inside the house, but outside, they are all adults and can do whatever they want. even though you can choose, so far I can still keep some relationships going. Like Jenna, Katie, Bella, Debby, Lily, Elaine. I chose to break up with theresa, and I chose to break up with Jolina. I also still am with both - Angel and Wanda.

So far I have all the girls I want yet, just kicked the ones I didn't want in the first place.

 

[_Utakata_]

My favourite part in the game is laughing at roger micro penis