VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Arigon]

Jo is at least on par with Jenna when it comes to computers.

She does not run an internet cafe, it USED to be an internet cafe and had a couple of computers left over which she showed someone how to use.

There are quite a few hints at her having quite high computer skills up to and including finding Jenna's program and removing it.



Not really a hint. She flat out says it in this episode if not on her route, she prefers girls.

Even if she's with the MC her preference is girls she just gave him a chance. It's not unusual for bisexuals to have a preference or for lesbians to dabble.

Debbie isn't interested in men at all but doesn't mind fucking the MC.

Jolina mainly goes for women by her own admission.

I love that you are spreading cheer to those of us who want two ladies to want each other AND want those of us who are male!

 

[Avaron1974]

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That show was early teenage me's ladyboner.

I had such a massive crush on Lucy Lawless. Me and my sis used to watch reruns of that and Hercules.

Then I got over the crush.

Then she appeared in Spartacus and had sex scenes and late teens me got another crush on now naked Lucy Lawless.

I think between her and Claudia Black they just about covered all of teenage me's celeb sex fantasies.

Gabriella was okay but Xena was just so fucking hot.

I love that you are spreading cheer to those of us who want two ladies to want each other AND want those of us who are male!

While I am pure lesbian i'd always encourage anyone who wants to try something (within legal bounds) to do so.

I see those men hating dykes and think they are the absolute dumbest fuckbuckets i've ever had the misfortune to cross words with.

As if hating more than half the worlds population is healthy.

Not only that but I also know a couple of previous hardcore lesbians that are now married to men. They still have a panty cream for women but they found love with people they wouldn't have previously paid any attention to in other social circles.

Quite a few lesbians will try out the pork diet at least once. Some go back for more, some don't. Some like me won't try at all but many will and as long as all people involved are consenting I don't see why people shouldn't get their jollies on wherever, whenever.

 

[acewinz]

That show was early teenage me's ladyboner.

I had such a massive crush on Lucy Lawless. Me and my sis used to watch reruns of that and Hercules.

Then I got over the crush.

Then she appeared in Spartacus and had sex scenes and late teens me got another crush on now naked Lucy Lawless.

I think between her and Claudia Black they just about covered all of teenage me's celeb sex fantasies.

Gabriella was okay but Xena was just so fucking hot.

I can confirm this exact effect happened to men too (including Claudia Black (Farscape), and Claudia Christian (B5!)), but you also forgot to mention Lucy in Battlestar Galactica (admitedly Tricia Helfer was distracting). Also loved Hercules, but if I was to choose only one from that universe that early me drooled over it would have been Alexandra Tydings as Aphrodite (the wig may be fake, but...).

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[Avaron1974]

I can confirm this exact effect happened to men too, but you also forgot to mention her in Battlestar Galactica (admitedly Tricia Helfer was distracting). Also loved Hercules, but if I was to choose only one from that universe that early me drooled over it would have been Alexandra Tydings as Aphrodite (the wig may be fake, but...).

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That's because I totally had a thing for Katee Sackhoff in BG.

I remember Aphrodite being in the show, more Hercules than Xena (although Ares showed up more in Xena) but I can't remember much about her.

 

[Smarmint]

That's because I totally had a thing for Katee Sackhoff in BG.

Definitely. Me too, big time. I had high hopes for her as an actress, since she was such a key part of BG, and she was amazing in it, but her career hasn't really taken off, unfortunately.

She is in Another Life, which is terrible as a series, but she hasn't really been a lead in anything else like BG. Here's hoping.

Grace Park was good too. Too bad she ended up mixed up in all the Nxivm craziness.

 

[LionHeart 95]

I don't agree very much

there is a big difference between being able to remotely crack the security of another computer and realizing that someone is doing it to you, they are just on two different levels
we can consider Jolina seriously a hacker only if we consider Jenna so good that to discover her we need a remarkable talent, and at the most we can consider Jenna an amateur talent

but anyway the point was that it is completely superfluous that Jolina is a hacker to prove that the video is fake, you don't need a hacker to do that

I will come right out and ask! Do you carry a torch for Bella?

 

[LionHeart 95]

I'm sorry, but I don't see many facts among your respectable theories.

Jo is not a hacker, she might be, but the only fact is that she has a minimum of computer mastery (after all she runs an internet cafe, Jenna is a hacker and has proven it). but then that would also be quite irrelevant to edit a movie you don't have to be a hacker

the picture of Jolina in the kitchen of Donald's house could mean anything and nothing, she could be the second golddigger, she could be Bella's lover or something else

while the fact that Elaine has twice wanted to avoid meeting Jolina in front of MC is certainly a fact, if she didn't already know her why would she want to avoid her?

I didn't focus on Elaine's "evilness" (even if in the last chapter the developers, through Bella's mouth, have disassembled one of my main arguments in her defense, the email would not have been sent to all her contacts, but first to Monica and only after to the others... at least according to Bella's belief) but simply on the fact that she has actually been to Jolina's cafe, and to do what is not known

if Jolina had simply wanted to direct MC's suspicions on Elaine, she would have done it much sooner by recognizing her in the first picture he showed her, in the end MC would have had no difficulty in believing her

coming back to Elaine, to ask an "almost stranger", towards whom she had some faults to be forgiven and not the contrary, to give her a house (which by chance is somehow linked to her inheritance and which by chance a few days later would have ended up in MC's hands) without a real reason seems to me almost as suspicious as any of Bella's ramblings

Okay your Honor my witness used the manuscript to present his case. as judge you are welcome to believe on the Predominance of evidence provided to you but I rest my case.

 

[Arigon]

So without a lawyer present,
I confess that even though I suspected Theresa is my birth mother, I purged her sinful thoughts, and my loins deep within her. Cucking Tommy as much as any reason.

I Want Bella to not be an evil conniving bitch, but wanting rarely makes it so.... so I kicked her from my beach house.

I do, upon my honor, know that Jojo, a bisexual with more of a lesbian take on things, has my heart.
Jenna, likely my half sister also has had my seed and love in her loins.

Monica... for the fucking life of me, I can not get over how she used to turn me on, and now even though she looks better, she is so much of a turn off that even though I inseminated her after the photo shoot, I ended it shortly after.

Zariah never tasted the joys of my boyish flesh, beyond lusting over it.

Katie, Lily, and Debbie have all had their full measure of my insemination, and if I were going to leave Jojo and Jenna, it would be for Lily hopefully Debbie and Katie.

Elaine got a full load of my jizmo. I neither regret it, nor will I. Especially if a bastard of mine is now in her belly. NOT because of her... oh no.... I fucked her because of my HATE for my father, and the desire to hear her cuck him in his grave. (yeah I have some actual real life experience in this and the associated daddy issues).

Angel.... I really like Angel... and Wanda. I used to dislike Wanda as much as I dislike Monica now, but I actually like Wanda and think a thruple with Angel and Wanda would be fun and exciting. Sort of a reverse lovewich.....

So I think I confessed to several things in there, that are illegal in some states... oh, I am pretty sure spreading the starfish is illegal. So add that to the crime spree.

I regret nothing your Honor.
I throw myself upon the judgement, if not the mercy, of the court.

Peace

 

[Wonder Wolf]

So without a lawyer present,
I confess that even though I suspected Theresa is my birth mother, I purged her sinful thoughts, and my loins deep within her. Cucking Tommy as much as any reason.

I Want Bella to not be an evil conniving bitch, but wanting rarely makes it so.... so I kicked her from my beach house.

I do, upon my honor, know that Jojo, a bisexual with more of a lesbian take on things, has my heart.
Jenna, likely my half sister also has had my seed and love in her loins.

Monica... for the fucking life of me, I can not get over how she used to turn me on, and now even though she looks better, she is so much of a turn off that even though I inseminated her after the photo shoot, I ended it shortly after.

Zariah never tasted the joys of my boyish flesh, beyond lusting over it.

Katie, Lily, and Debbie have all had their full measure of my insemination, and if I were going to leave Jojo and Jenna, it would be for Lily hopefully Debbie and Katie.

Elaine got a full load of my jizmo. I neither regret it, nor will I. Especially if a bastard of mine is now in her belly. NOT because of her... oh no.... I fucked her because of my HATE for my father, and the desire to hear her cuck him in his grave. (yeah I have some actual real life experience in this and the associated daddy issues).

Angel.... I really like Angel... and Wanda. I used to dislike Wanda as much as I dislike Monica now, but I actually like Wanda and think a thruple with Angel and Wanda would be fun and exciting. Sort of a reverse lovewich.....

So I think I confessed to several things in there, that are illegal in some states... oh, I am pretty sure spreading the starfish is illegal. So add that to the crime spree.

I regret nothing your Honor.
I throw myself upon the judgement, if not the mercy, of the court.

Peace

This is the most poetic thing I've ever read here. If the MC read this, he would have cried with joy on his whale dick.

 

[JackMiejov]

Could there be another foursome in the offing.

Since the foursome you're referring to would include Elaine and Bella, the answer is no.

 

[LionHeart 95]

So without a lawyer present,
I confess that even though I suspected Theresa is my birth mother, I purged her sinful thoughts, and my loins deep within her. Cucking Tommy as much as any reason.

I Want Bella to not be an evil conniving bitch, but wanting rarely makes it so.... so I kicked her from my beach house.

I do, upon my honor, know that Jojo, a bisexual with more of a lesbian take on things, has my heart.
Jenna, likely my half sister also has had my seed and love in her loins.

Monica... for the fucking life of me, I can not get over how she used to turn me on, and now even though she looks better, she is so much of a turn off that even though I inseminated her after the photo shoot, I ended it shortly after.

Zariah never tasted the joys of my boyish flesh, beyond lusting over it.

Katie, Lily, and Debbie have all had their full measure of my insemination, and if I were going to leave Jojo and Jenna, it would be for Lily hopefully Debbie and Katie.

Elaine got a full load of my jizmo. I neither regret it, nor will I. Especially if a bastard of mine is now in her belly. NOT because of her... oh no.... I fucked her because of my HATE for my father, and the desire to hear her cuck him in his grave. (yeah I have some actual real life experience in this and the associated daddy issues).

Angel.... I really like Angel... and Wanda. I used to dislike Wanda as much as I dislike Monica now, but I actually like Wanda and think a thruple with Angel and Wanda would be fun and exciting. Sort of a reverse lovewich.....

So I think I confessed to several things in there, that are illegal in some states... oh, I am pretty sure spreading the starfish is illegal. So add that to the crime spree.

I regret nothing your Honor.
I throw myself upon the judgement, if not the mercy, of the court.

Peace

However we find you !

 

[felicemastronzo]

I will come right out and ask! Do you carry a torch for Bella?

what do you mean? Bella is a very strange character who always behaves in a very forced way (she admits that she enjoyed sexually upsetting an underage Mc just to...)
but apart from a couple of obscure passages, her version holds up more than Elaine's, who hides behind so many secrets

 

[LionHeart 95]

what do you mean? Bella is a very strange character who always behaves in a very forced way (she admits that she enjoyed sexually upsetting an underage Mc just to...)
but apart from a couple of obscure passages, her version holds up more than Elaine's, who hides behind so many secrets

Nothing really it just seems that you like Bella more than Elaine.

As for resting my case I think there is enough evidence to Say (and I partially base this on a statement from Donald himself) ("Although if Elaine had found out about the other gold-digger, she would have murdered me even if I was broke!)
I took that statement in EP 9 to reference Bella. Because that would really tweak Elaine to the limit and would be Donald's end with all that it makes me think the 2nd Gold digger knew of Elaine from the beginning of his affair. With all this and the other evidence plying up Bella is looking bad. this fits with Greg mention someone knows everyone's condition's

i will give you which one is the Viper is still up for grabs. but its Bella in my opinion.

 

[Avaron1974]

Bella is the only one that makes sense.

She's the only one that would actually impact both the MC and Elaine.

Theresa is irrelevant, Angel isn't important to Elaine, Jolina is a slight possibility but I doubt it, doesn't make any sense for it to be Monica and Zarah wasn't around then.

Bella being the gold digger would impact both Elaine and the MC.

 

[voyeurkind]

Bella quit her job to be with Elaine in her time of need. It's unlikely anyone would do that if they weren't expecting another source of income (unless it was some sort of job that she could easily get anywhere, and there's been no indication of that). She's been trying hard to get MC to support her to the point of desperation. She's definitely my number one candidate.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Bella is the only one that makes sense.

She's the only one that would actually impact both the MC and Elaine.

Theresa is irrelevant, Angel isn't important to Elaine, Jolina is a slight possibility but I doubt it, doesn't make any sense for it to be Monica and Zarah wasn't around then.

Bella being the gold digger would impact both Elaine and the MC.

My question on Jolina is - where did she get the money to start her endeavor at the shop and did she not imply she lost out on a windfall that would have rescued it just recently. Maybe I read something wrong and it has been a while since I went through the first meetings with JoJo.

We have no idea if Theresa is irrelevant to Elaine. Theresa's past seems to have her own rough spot but, there is nothing indicating in any way that she is or is not involved. Was Donald a problem for her at one point? She is definitely a question mark.

 

[Arigon]

Yes......
All of the above make so much sense.... But I Want Bella to be good.... but.... I ultimately tossed her out.

I think her win condition was to make herself a gold digger on the MC, such that by the Will Elaine would get nothing, his son would get what he gets, and the gold digger gets her $5 mil plus whatever she can weasel out of the MC....

Sigh...

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Yes......
All of the above make so much sense.... But I Want Bella to be good.... but.... I ultimately tossed her out.

I think her win condition was to make herself a gold digger on the MC, such that by the Will Elaine would get nothing, his son would get what he gets, and the gold digger gets her $5 mil plus whatever she can weasel out of the MC....

Sigh...

Interesting. The same could be said for JoJo though. Hmmm, Donald found out about the JoJo - Bella relationship and the gold digger had to get into MC and drop the other. It would be the same from either direction. All they needed was proof they bedded the MC. JoJo does have cameras. Hmmmmm.

 

[Avaron1974]

My question on Jolina is - where did she get the money to start her endeavor at the shop and did she not imply she lost out on a windfall that would have rescued it just recently. Maybe I read something wrong and it has been a while since I went through the first meetings with JoJo.

We have no idea if Theresa is irrelevant to Elaine. Theresa's past seems to have her own rough spot but, there is nothing indicating in any way that she is or is not involved. Was Donald a problem for her at one point? She is definitely a question mark.

We only have a few episodes left so there isn't enough time to build up an impact with Theresa, she's too left field to be brought into the central dynamic.

Bella is heavily involved with Elaine, the MC and Jolina.

Theresa is only involved with the MC. Even dogboy has been taken out of the picture with regards to the girls. Revealing Theresa as the god digger now would be such an anti climax i'll go out on a limb and say it would spoil the story completely.

Nobody else in the game gives a shit about her so it would be easy to turn on her and make sure she gets nothing. Her entire story ark has been about her repressed sexuality and getting her to open her life up to the MC. She hasn't ingrained herself in the plot with schemes nor involved in any of the major plot lines now her son has been dealt with.

In my personal opinion she is a red herring. Her coming out as the gold digger would just be a big "oh, is that it?" moment.

Same with Angel. She doesn't have a big enough dynamic to make that reveal worth the build.

Wanda is already rich.

Lily is already rich but even if not, the girls would be far too young.

Zarah is also too anti climatic but also too new to the plot to be considered.

Revealing Monica as the gold digger would completely ruin her character. She was the MC's mothers best friend. Her being the third woman would kill any chance of her having any sort of future with the MC because there is no coming back from that. Plus I genuinely believe she hated his dad completely for what he did to her friend.

Bella is the only one that could be revealed and not completely kill her character beyond redemption.

Jolina said she'd saved for years to start her business.

 

[Arigon]

We only have a few episodes left so there isn't enough time to build up an impact with Theresa, she's too left field to be brought into the central dynamic.

Bella is heavily involved with Elaine, the MC and Jolina.

Theresa is only involved with the MC. Even dogboy has been taken out of the picture with regards to the girls. Revealing Theresa as the god digger now would be such an anti climax i'll go out on a limb and say it would spoil the story completely.

Nobody else in the game gives a shit about her so it would be easy to turn on her and make sure she gets nothing. Her entire story ark has been about her repressed sexuality and getting her to open her life up to the MC. She hasn't ingrained herself in the plot with schemes nor involved in any of the major plot lines now her son has been dealt with.

In my personal opinion she is a red herring. Her coming out as the gold digger would just be a big "oh, is that it?" moment.

Same with Angel. She doesn't have a big enough dynamic to make that reveal worth the build.

Wanda is already rich.

Lily is already rich but even if not, the girls would be far too young.

Zarah is also too anti climatic but also too new to the plot to be considered.

Revealing Monica as the gold digger would completely ruin her character. She was the MC's mothers best friend. Her being the third woman would kill any chance of her having any sort of future with the MC because there is no coming back from that. Plus I genuinely believe she hated his dad completely for what he did to her friend.

Bella is the only one that could be revealed and not completely kill her character beyond redemption.

Jolina said she'd saved for years to start her business.

Yeah.....
Fuck....
Bella almost has to be the Gold Digger. I mean....I hated coming to that realization, because I liked her.... or wanted to like her.

Though, I do think it would be wild if Theresa was revealed to be the MC's birth mother, who gave him up after pressure from Donald..... and she is certainly Dizzy enough. I REALLY want it to be her..... but... there are problems with that of course.

I have to go with Bella, and that somehow she has to succeed in getting the MC to take her in, and get the MC to NOT give Elaine the house, to get her share.
She could get her win condition and not affect the MC by screwing him out of anything.... which is a positive I feel.

I think it is too easy to try and pin it on Jolina, and she was going to actually leave if the MC didn't intercede... then again, what if that was a part of Her win condition? No way she is Dizzy though... Bella isn't even... Lily was too young in spite of being called Dizzy in High School, and her folks are rich, so unless Donald was a serious Pedo, I think she is safe.

Monica....I would kind of like it to BE Monica...sympathy would fly out the window... For what it is worth, I think one of the girls (Katie) might actually really be the MC's sister..... Jenna and Monica are built more similarly. MC and Katie are built more similarly. Since I have been raw dogging on all of them at one point, I probably have some incest babies coming

Ah shit...
Peace