I don't understand how Dragon Ball Divine Adventure justifies taking its sweet ass time.
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- At no point did I mention that game
- I said "...one of..."
- I gave 3 examples of games with extensive branching paths
Who cares about DBDA. It has no real branching paths and is therefore irrelevant here.
It was a general statement. Feel free to ignore my posts next time.
- At no point did I mention that game
- I said "...one of..."
- I gave 3 examples of games with extensive branching paths
Who cares about DBDA. It has no real branching paths and is therefore irrelevant here.
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In your Opinion. And I am sure you, being so erudite, know exactly what OPINIONS are like. If others disagree the challenge is then on you to provide factual proof. Your OPINION is not a fact. It is not evidence. It is just an OPINION. Please note, this is not my OPINION. I am just stating a FACT.
My Opinion (and to the point I disagree with yours) is that this is one of the best written VNs and that is its strength. The FACT the Devs are constantly working to improve the graphics is not disputable. They communicate these changes themselves. They have long term goals and a plan to get there. Compare that to other Devs that have long term goals and no realistic plans. For Example; A Wife and Mother (One of the most popular VNs) is currently projected to complete in the 2040s. Yeah sure, can you say bad Project Management. That is not the case for Where the Heart Is. They also are excellent at communicating with their audience (Even the Pirates).
Now please bring some facts to the table. You may be right in comparison. Then again, right now, all it is is your OPINION.
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should be dropping in the next 4 days, going by cheeky's promise of releasing this month!!
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Oni released his update. XD
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True, but definitely a lot of factors there. Tech and folks both being involved.
For one, I can't compare WTHI to any other game I know. None of them have our level of freedom of choice that ripples out across all the characters in detail. (Something I hope you folks enjoy, because just understanding the pathing required is nuts, doing it is bat-shit insane, which thankfully we are qualified for.)
Gaining new team members isn't hard, finding ones with the proper skill set, mind set, and then getting them up to speed is...
Well it has been freaking impossible (at least for us). Even when we have a new guy, we spend as much time going over their stuff to help them get acclimated as it would be to do our ourselves... the idea being eventually they hold their own, but I've posted before how many folks we have brought on, done our best to train/acclimate, and then had things not work out for various reasons. Most of which are the work is immense for a side gig, and the pay is far from stellar. (Despite the 65k downloads of our game that are recorded here on a single tracked download site...).
And I'll end on that our updates while taking longer, almost always contain more content than anyone else putting out regular updates monthly, we just do it every 4-5 months.
Oh, and for those interested in why I'm here ranting/venting rather than hammering away at the game. (Which we have all been doing for more hours than a regular job for weeks now.)
I just tossed the final beta build to our QC team to test. Still some final things to do/test in the next few days, but the count at present...
17500 lines of code/dialog (exactly atm)
1500+ images
61 videos
88 (******)
74 (*****)
At least 25% larger than last EP, which was our largest so far... again.
88 (sounds)
74 (odors)
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For sure there are probably multiple factors other that I, and many others do not see. I apologize if my comment came off as bitchy and disrespectful.
I only said what I said because it is incredibly strange and frustrating to come from games like Being A Dik, where people complain that DrPinkCake needs to hire a team to help him since updates are taking a while (even though he is among the best AVN developers in terms of work ethic/communication), to go to other games like WTHI, Summertime Saga, etc that take multiple months to get their updates out; even though they have multiple people working on the game. Not at all a shot at you guys as developers, but more calling out people who think that getting more developers to work on a game means they will get updates faster.
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Hehe, no offense taken. People complain, but I'd rather have them complain because they want something than not. Although comparing us to Summertime Saga is fighting words.
While I respect the extra time involved in their style of animated AVN, they have been milking for a long time since they made it big, they definitely don't feel like letting the golden goose give up the final egg. DPC on the other hand, can't really be accused of that from what I've seen, other things maybe, but not that. Yeah, he could expand with the kinda dough he is rolling in, but there is something to be said for being able to do it your own way.It honestly is a miracle how closely Cheeky and I mesh, so we don't quibble about much in terms of game/character direction, and have worked together long enough to respect one another when we do have a difference of opinion. Then there are perfectly imperfect co-workers like Cell, who do everything they are told with no questions, when they remember what you told them.
We also do value our patreons and communication highly (even when talking to pirates!). While it is sad we see our biggest swells around update time, we have had a solid core of folks for a long time who trust us when we say we are going to deliver but it will take time, and we try not to let them down.
I just made an offer to help with what I did a couple of years back before I nearly croaked from Covid. I sent the message on Patreon. You're all too busy I think to have seen it but let me know if you want me to do it again.
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That would be Cheeky's wheelhouse, but if it was recent chances are it will be a few days before he responds. Busy working on getting the EP out this month.
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LMAO would never say you guys are on the level of DarkCookie. I really do not understand what the hold up is with their updates.Hehe, no offense taken. People complain, but I'd rather have them complain because they want something than not. Although comparing us to Summertime Saga is fighting words.
It honestly is a miracle how closely Cheeky and I mesh, so we don't quibble about much in terms of game/character direction, and have worked together long enough to respect one another when we do have a difference of opinion. Then there are perfectly imperfect co-workers like Cell, who do everything they are told with no questions, when they remember what you told them.
We also do value our patreons and communication highly (even when talking to pirates!). While it is sad we see our biggest swells around update time, we have had a solid core of folks for a long time who trust us when we say we are going to deliver but it will take time, and we try not to let them down.
DPC I cant fault either. Its clear the project is deeply personal to him, and he wants it to be entirely him. It sucks having to wait months for an update, but given his communication and quality I cannot complain.
tl;dr excited for the update thanks for the communication with pirates (im poor im sorry
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Since Cheeky announced it on patreon. I can confirm, you were half right.
88 sounds (unredacted)
74 songs/musical pieces (declassified)
and an intro piece/theme it took us awhile to settle on, along with an optional sequence at the start to go with it
The inclusion and upgrades aren't half-assed, but understand they won't be for everyone. We also did a bit of an experiment with the sounds (which are throughout), but through two scenes they are... different, in a way we hope is immersive and positive, but feedback will determine how we proceed. Feedback from patreons that is
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I dont understand people complaining about update time tbh.. We are 22 episodes in and are still getting them in good time. Im not sure exactly how long each one takes but ive never thought that its taken way too long or anything. If anything sometimes ive been surprised by how quick the next update has came around.
I think people complaining about updates is when its close to the release and they expect it on the 14th but then it gets to the end of the month and they're still waiting. Thats not on the devs though thats on your impatience. Devs putting a game out when its ready and bug free is way better than getting a broken or rushed game. The last thing you want when a game is getting closer to its end is rushed content.. Its like weed growers who spend months making it perfect then rushing the cutting and curing process. Be patient, we get this shit for free for the most part and we get a lot of info from the devs compared to other games. the last thing you want to do is drive more devs away from this site for being spoiled entitled children.
I think people complaining about updates is when its close to the release and they expect it on the 14th but then it gets to the end of the month and they're still waiting. Thats not on the devs though thats on your impatience. Devs putting a game out when its ready and bug free is way better than getting a broken or rushed game. The last thing you want when a game is getting closer to its end is rushed content.. Its like weed growers who spend months making it perfect then rushing the cutting and curing process. Be patient, we get this shit for free for the most part and we get a lot of info from the devs compared to other games. the last thing you want to do is drive more devs away from this site for being spoiled entitled children.
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I'm complaining because Elaine won't love me.