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Jacowboy

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another game ruined by this stupid Mania of reworking something that was perfectly ok. i reaLLY REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND DEVS DO THIS BESIDES MILK MORE MONEY
Ehhhh... "perfectly ok" is a huge stretch... listen I like this game as much as anyone, but the begining is ROUGH AF... I almost dropped the game because of how ugly it looks at the start... ironically enough the writing kept me going long enough for the visual side of things to start improving... my point being, if they release as is on Steam, it runs a high risk of getting bad reviews, so yeah, I think it's best to remake considering what they've said about the process of remaking it... I might disagree if they had to start from zero, but they're already stated that won't be the case.

If you're supporting them on patreon and don't agree with the decision, then stop your support and that's that... money talks louder than words... best way to send a message. If you're not, like myself, then shush and wait... it's really not that complicated. (not directed at anyone in particular, I'm just saying in general).
 

ename144

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people what episode does this scene open and how to get it??
I believe that's from Episode 17. I think you'll get some variant of the scene no matter what, but you'll get a few more options if you're in a relationship with either of the girls (and can cause some problems if you're in a relationship with both and act inappropriately). You should be able to fiddle around with the "Start Any Episode" button to see the various permutations.
 
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J.R.

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Wouldn't it have made more sense, to finish the game first then release it on Steam?
I don't know what is best either, but I'm no supporter. I already made a posts that imo it can also backfire for the Patron income without a game update soon. But they decided to do the steam release first, it's their decision. Also they informed their patrons about that in advance (therefore I can't stand that stupid "milking" behaviour from some poster). Well, time will tell if it was best for them to do it this way to gain the needed money.
 

HornyyPussy

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Wouldn't it have made more sense, to finish the game first then release it on Steam?
Obviously the Dev's don't think so and in the end that's the only opinions that matters.

They don't think they are able to finish it at this point (may be due to Ace's leave of absence, i don't know) but since they have been consistent and communicative dev's since the start it's weird to me how many people jump down their throats. We get this for FREE here on this PIRATE forum so it's just ridiculous to jump down their throats at the first time of any trouble (for them).
 

Smarmint

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Exactly. I can only think of a small handful of devs with such a long track record of regular releases, continual communication, and an overall good attitude toward the fans, than Cheeky and Ace.

I am sure Ace's leave of absence initiated the whole thing. It sounds like from Cheeky's posts, that he doesn't have the time or ability to do it without him at this point, so better to go back and fix what is needed for a Steam release, rather than just put it on hold indefinately.

I think it is a matter of either abandoning it, which none of us want, or revising the early game and releasing on Steam. Which would you rather want as a fan?

Unless you personally (the complainers), want to fund the dev tens of thousands a month, on your own, to pay for the development of the next few chapters, than complaining about it is not only counterproductive but hypocritical.

I don't think commenting on lack of updates should always be forbidden. Devs that continually give out lame excuses, never release anything but teaser renders or release extremely short updates after a years of excuses, while bringing in thousands a month, well we know who they are, and it's reasonable to comment on your frustration as a fan.

But that is not what is happening here.
 

Riversayt

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I believe that's from Episode 17. I think you'll get some variant of the scene no matter what, but you'll get a few more options if you're in a relationship with either of the girls (and can cause some problems if you're in a relationship with both and act inappropriately). You should be able to fiddle around with the "Start Any Episode" button to see the various permutations.
strange, I thought it was necessary to have something to do with all the girls here so that there would not be a problem between them :unsure: :rolleyes:
 

Construct

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How can Cheeky even dare to not want to get less than minimum wage from AVN development while taking unpaid vacation days from his normal job? Clearly the only solution for him is to quit his job and work himself to the bone to get chapter 24 out. For free of course!

Obviously the above is sarcasm.
But some people really need to understand the patreon update before they break their fingers typing „dEaD gAmE bEcAuSe ReMaKe“

To be honest, the first chapters looks like garbage compared to later renders and Cheeky does well in remaking those before presenting this on steam.
 

ename144

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How can Cheeky even dare to not want to get less than minimum wage from AVN development while taking unpaid vacation days from his normal job? Clearly the only solution for him is to quit his job and work himself to the bone to get chapter 24 out. For free of course!

Obviously the above is sarcasm.
But some people really need to understand the patreon update before they break their fingers typing „dEaD gAmE bEcAuSe ReMaKe“

To be honest, the first chapters looks like garbage compared to later renders and Cheeky does well in remaking those before presenting this on steam.
Some people have unreasonable expectations, that is true.

On the other hand, it's also entirely possible to read the Patreon update and still disagree with Cheeky's decision. There is, after all, no guarantee the Steam release will solve the financial problem, whereas there's a very high probability it will take more than the two months scheduled. It's even possible Steam will wind up becoming a net problem: they won't be able to give the full game away for less than the Steam price anymore, and their new music might run afoul of the DMCA issues that bit Leap of Faith (et al) last year.

That's not to say the plan can't work, but it is a gamble. In the best case scenario we minimize the delay to two months. But in the worst case scenario we're right back in the same position we are now with four+ months of extra time wasted and the devs even more burned out.

IMHO, slowing development speed to a sustainable rate and finishing the game would have been a safer bet than opening the Pandora's box that is remastering unfinished content.
 

Sorrow85

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Hi folks,

I just wanted to start by saying thanks a lot to all patrons (past and present) for your support. It is much appreciated.
And just another reminder (in case you missed the last posts) that we have currently paused working on episode 24 and are instead focusing on a re-do of some of our earlier episodes.

Thanks for all the positive messages regarding this decision. And for those that were less positive, I understand but please let me stress that if you are annoyed/frustrated about this decision, please ensure you pause/cancel your patronage during the re-do months. There is no point supporting us for the two months while we work on the re-do if you aren't happy about it. I'd rather have an ex-patron than a pissed off patron that is paying for something they don't want.

Work on episode 24 will re-commence in the latter half of next month (April) but obviously Patreon is done on a monthly basis so to keep things simple...if you are in the re-do unhappy camp,then please assume that a good chunk of next month will be spent on the re-do, so bear that in mind when considering whether to cancel or renew pledges and please also bear it in mind before sending me a ranty message about a lack of progress on EP24. I have no problems receiving these messages but I just want to ensure everyone is well-informed as to the plans for March/April.

And just to extend the outlook a little further, I am also considering (not confirmed yet) taking some time off (approx 9 days) in May for a family vacation. I know most of you don't care about my holiday plans :), but I just want to be forthright about time that will/won't be spent working on the game.

For this month, I'm going to be a little more active on Patreon than I usually am and plan on giving people a little bit more insight into the creation process and also keep you in the loop regarding re-do plans and progress.

I will start by addressing a few questions about compatibility between the existing version and the re-do:

Once episode 24 is released, it will be fully compatible with the existing game and your existing saves will still work. i.e. episode 24 will follow the original game pattern and you will not need to restart from the beginning. The same goes for EP25. So for anyone that doesn't want to try the re-do and just wants to finish EP24 and EP25 (once they are released), that will be 100% possible and you can ignore any re-do releases if that's your preference.

The re-do (once it comes out) will behave like a brand new game, i.e. you won't be able to mix and match with the original game saves. So once the re-do comes out, you WILL have to start a new game if you want to play the re-do. So before anyone panics, let me repeat: A new game start is only required if you want to play the re-do version. This should make sense because the re-do will cover the earlier episodes.

So you can continue to play the full original game (including Ep24 and Ep25 when released) as normal and without ever having to restart (or touch any re-do releases).
OR you can play both: i.e. continue your original game/saves with your exisitng game version AND with EP24 and EP25 (once released). And you can ALSO enjoy the re-do version (starting from scratch).
Hope this makes sense. Please ask any question in the comments below if it doesn't?

Episode 24 and 25 will be released on Patreon (as per all other episodes.) And the re-do version will be released on Steam AND on Patreon.

My next post will be this weekend and I plan on going into some details about how we make the game (coding/art/script, etc.) including what applications we use and how we go from an idea to a finished/playable scene and I'll share some behind-the-scenes snapshots/excerpts to help you visualize the process. This might not be of interest to everyone but I have received a lot of messages/questions about it (some from people who have ambitions to create their own games an d some requests came from people who are just curious).

And then next week, I'll delve a little further into re-do progress and share some sample images.
Before the small percentage of angry people start blasting me with messages saying "Why are you taking time out to post about this bullshit when you should be working on the game". Please note that these posts won't take much of my time and will be done AFTER I have hit my daily targets for the game. And some people ARE interested (and have asked).

Thanks,


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When all the good ones are either on hold or needed at least half a year to work on....All we got now is a bunch of NTR stuff....
I think what a lot of people don't understand is the immeasurable amount of work that goes into creating and developing these games. Very few of the devs do this full time or have huge supporting staff to help in the process and most devs have a full time job and a family to support. All of us are anxious for new updates but impatience isn't going to make it go any faster.

As far as " All we got now is a bunch of NTR stuff". NTR is the most overused, misused and misunderstood term in the adult game industry. Problem is most people don't seem to know or understand the proper definition of NTR or how and when is is applicable. Sharing, swapping, swinging is NOT NTR. More than one character involved with a another character be they male or female is NOT NTR unless certain and specific parameters are met. There are very few actual instances of true NTR in the games out here.
 
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