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hakarlman

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EDIT: BEfore you like this post, just know that I had a bad experience with this game and will not be supporting it on patreon. It makes the catastrophic mistake of forcing unwanted sexual scenarios, which results in a massive turn off. It's such a damn shame too. The game got my hopes up, then just crushed them with mistakes that were okay back in 2016, but not in 2023.

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Does anyone know how popular Jenna is among the people who play this game?

As I play more and more, it looks like our MC can be an asshole, that's great. Can we encourage Monica to keep drinking and become an alcoholic with her or something?

Is Monica the most popular character among everyone who plays this game? Anyone know?

WTF. This is the first porn game I've ever played that actually works without an incest patch. The dev actually knows about women, that's so rare.

EDIT: DUDE. This dev actually knows about women. I can't believe it. .... This is so rare, maybe I've just been playing the wrong games. I can't believe he understands how to do flirting correctly. Normally the writing is so bad, I need an incest patch to make things hotter.

EDIT: DUDE. he actually keeps up a consistent pacing of dialogue choices. HE UNDERSTANDS PACING. THIS IS FUCKING MIRACLE. I might support on patreon, this should be rewarded.
 
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CheekyGimp

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Does anyone know how popular Jenna is among the people who play this game?

As I play more and more, it looks like our MC can be an asshole, that's great. Can we encourage Monica to keep drinking and become an alcoholic with her or something?

Is Monica the most popular character among everyone who plays this game? Anyone know?

WTF. This is the first porn game I've ever played that actually works without an incest patch. The dev actually knows about women, that's so rare.

EDIT: DUDE. This dev actually knows about women. I can't believe it. .... This is so rare, maybe I've just been playing the wrong games. I can't believe he understands how to do flirting correctly. Normally the writing is so bad, I need an incest patch to make things hotter.
The top three tends to fluctuate between Jenna/Monica/Katie but overall Jenna is (marginally) the most popular character in the game, followed very closely by Katie and then (also very closely) by Monica.
Yes, the MC can be an asshole but I tried (hopefully it worked) to not force this and allow the player to decide how much of an asshole he can be. But in a game that actively encourages you to date multiple women, it would be hard to pull this off without being a bit of an asshole.
No plans to make Monica an alcoholic. The alcohol was really just an "in" used in the earlier episodes to make her a little less hesitant at certain points in the game.
And glad to hear you like it without the need for a patch - Thanks.
 

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Looking forward to getting this on steam it's gonna be a good second half of the year for visual novels on steam (This, Race of life etc.)

Does anyone know how long after episodes 1 - 10 release on steam the other episodes will release
Not even I know at the moment. Trying to find the right balance between steam/upgrading the earlier episodes (so I can take more time off my real-life job to work on the game), while also continuing the current episodes (episode 24). At this stage, it's probably gonna look like...Episode 24 will drop this summer with the redux/re-do of episode 1-10 dropping on steam a little later in the summer. Both are progressing well at the moment. For this month I'll be spending more time on Ep24 (and a little on the re-do) while Cell is spending all of his time on the re-do.
 

hakarlman

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I wonder if it would ever be possible to make Jenna & Zarah go away or just ignore them entirely. Hmm, maybe someone made a mod.

Everytime I see Jenna or Zarah, it kills the erotic mood.

God I hate myself for having such ridiculously high standards, why can't I be normal. lol

I went upstairs to see monica, and low and behold, Zarah is there, so it's now a complete turn off.

EDIT: Still, the pros majorly outweigh the cons so far, still making it patreon worthy.

uggh this is not good. The MC should be the dominant one. Zarah is trying to act like a man, and it's a major turn off. Hopefully we can tell her to go away soon.
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Still the above scene feels like too much too soon. If anyone wants to discuss this, please do. Is it okay if we talk about stuff like this? If not, let me know and I won't make a lot of posts. I just really like this game so far, but Jenna & Zarah kill the mood, except when zarah encourages Monica to drink.

See, it would be great if our MC was the corrupter. If zarah is the corrupter, then she's the alpha, that makes us the beta, we're doing her bidding. I don't seem female domination tag. I like femdom, but .... this is confusing.
EDIT: Yea, the tags for this game say MALE DOMINATION, but we're being told what to do by Zarah. Should we request the female domination tag from the moderator?
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The only reason I'm being critical is because I really like this game. It's so rare to play such a good game. If you want me to shut up, I'll delete all my posts and just go away.

Yea, this is FEMALE DOMINATION. Zarah is the mistress, and the MC and Monica are the submissives. In the screenshot, we're submitting to Zarah's will. We're showing submission. I LOVE FEMDOM, but I don't think that's what this game is all about.
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Okay. The mood just died........ Great game, but forcing Zarah and Jenna on us is a deal breaker. STILL, this game does so many things right. AWESOME work.

This game is not for me because I think it forces us to be with all the women, when I just want to get rid of Jenna & Zarah, and I just want to focus on Monica, Jolene, and monica's daughter; the girl who cusses all the time.

She's right. I agree with her, the situation is so weird, that I can't continue anymore. DAMN. this game was going so well too. FUCK. I finally find a good game to play after two years, and I ONLY GET TO ENJOY IT FOR 30 MINUTES. FML
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NONE OF THEM ARE MY TYPE. I MODIFIED THIS IN PHOTOSHOP. (NOTE THE IMAGE BELOW WAS MODIFIED IN PHOTOSHOP).
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Yea, the game continues to force the women you do't like on you, which results in a turn off. That's probably why he isn't making $10,000.00 instead of $5000.00

The most basic rule of porn game dev in 2023, is NEVER force a sexual scenario. Cheekygimp is a good coder, he could easily add dialogue options to fix this problem, then he'd probably double his revenue. If this was 2016, it would be okay to make these mistakes.

Don't worry about showing ALL the renders, it's okay if the player misses out on content if they don't like that content.

EDIT: Yea the game forces Jenna on you, no matter what you do, so it results in players not interested in her being completely turned off.

EDIT: A MOD could save this game, it looks like there are a lot of other people like me who see the obvious problems which could've been easily fixed in less than 60 seconds.
 
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Not even I know at the moment. Trying to find the right balance between steam/upgrading the earlier episodes (so I can take more time off my real-life job to work on the game), while also continuing the current episodes (episode 24). At this stage, it's probably gonna look like...Episode 24 will drop this summer with the redux/re-do of episode 1-10 dropping on steam a little later in the summer. Both are progressing well at the moment. For this month I'll be spending more time on Ep24 (and a little on the re-do) while Cell is spending all of his time on the re-do.
Cool thank's for letting me know i really like your game btw
Although no girl comes close to being as awesome as Katie lol
Is the re-do gonna give us the option to not be as mean to the other milf (I think her name is Zarah?) besides the mom
i feel like the mc is very rude to her at the beginning of the game
Either way tho like i said it's a really good game
 

hakarlman

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Sorry for making a new post. Does anyone know if there's a mod that removes Jenna, Zenna, and Katie's two annoying friends? Or a mod that just makes it so when you tell them no, the game just doesn't bring them around as much.

Quality of Content is better than Quantity. So if a player makes choices that result in him only enjoying 40% of the game's content, that's fine, because he really likes that 40% of content. Forcing him to go through the 60% of content he doesn't like will result in a turn off, and a turn off means no patreon support. The solution is so simple, just add more dialogue choices that allow the player to skip content with girls he doesn't like.
 
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Sorry for making a new post. Does anyone know if there's a mod that removes Jenna, Zenna, and Katie's two annoying friends? Or a mod that just makes it so when you tell them no, the game just doesn't bring them around as much.

Quality of Content is better than Quantity. So if a player makes choices that result in him only enjoying 40% of the game's content, that's fine, because he really likes that 40% of content. Forcing him to go through the 60% of content he doesn't like will result in a turn off, and a turn off means no patreon support. The solution is so simple, just add more dialogue choices that allow the player to skip content with girls he doesn't like.
Seriously doubt it since they are all paramount to the story, would probably be a huge undertaking to remove them or even lessen their presence........
 
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hakarlman

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Seriously doubt it since they are all paramount to the story, would probably be a huge undertaking to remove them or even lessen their presence........
It's not a huge undertaking. It's extremely easy. I kid you not man. Cheekygimp is already good with dialogue choice and plot flag management, a few more plot flags wouldn't hurt.

Also the game errors out a lot when you first start it. He needs to either declare persistent variables VERY early, giving them a default value or just check for nonetype. It's so easy.

On a side note, these are my stats. I"m the kind of player that is very choosy and picky about the women in game. This is just critical feedback for the dev. He doesn't even need to respond.
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I wonder if it would ever be possible to make Jenna & Zarah go away or just ignore them entirely. Hmm, maybe someone made a mod.

Everytime I see Jenna or Zarah, it kills the erotic mood.

God I hate myself for having such ridiculously high standards, why can't I be normal. lol

I went upstairs to see monica, and low and behold, Zarah is there, so it's now a complete turn off.

EDIT: Still, the pros majorly outweigh the cons so far, still making it patreon worthy.

uggh this is not good. The MC should be the dominant one. Zarah is trying to act like a man, and it's a major turn off. Hopefully we can tell her to go away soon.
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Still the above scene feels like too much too soon. If anyone wants to discuss this, please do. Is it okay if we talk about stuff like this? If not, let me know and I won't make a lot of posts. I just really like this game so far, but Jenna & Zarah kill the mood, except when zarah encourages Monica to drink.

See, it would be great if our MC was the corrupter. If zarah is the corrupter, then she's the alpha, that makes us the beta, we're doing her bidding. I don't seem female domination tag. I like femdom, but .... this is confusing.
EDIT: Yea, the tags for this game say MALE DOMINATION, but we're being told what to do by Zarah. Should we request the female domination tag from the moderator?
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The only reason I'm being critical is because I really like this game. It's so rare to play such a good game. If you want me to shut up, I'll delete all my posts and just go away.

Yea, this is FEMALE DOMINATION. Zarah is the mistress, and the MC and Monica are the submissives. In the screenshot, we're submitting to Zarah's will. We're showing submission. I LOVE FEMDOM, but I don't think that's what this game is all about.
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Okay. The mood just died........ Great game, but forcing Zarah and Jenna on us is a deal breaker. STILL, this game does so many things right. AWESOME work.

This game is not for me because I think it forces us to be with all the women, when I just want to get rid of Jenna & Zarah, and I just want to focus on Monica, Jolene, and monica's daughter; the girl who cusses all the time.

She's right. I agree with her, the situation is so weird, that I can't continue anymore. DAMN. this game was going so well too. FUCK. I finally find a good game to play after two years, and I ONLY GET TO ENJOY IT FOR 30 MINUTES. FML
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NONE OF THEM ARE MY TYPE. I MODIFIED THIS IN PHOTOSHOP. (NOTE THE IMAGE BELOW WAS MODIFIED IN PHOTOSHOP).
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Yea, the game continues to force the women you do't like on you, which results in a turn off. That's probably why he isn't making $10,000.00 instead of $5000.00

The most basic rule of porn game dev in 2023, is NEVER force a sexual scenario. Cheekygimp is a good coder, he could easily add dialogue options to fix this problem, then he'd probably double his revenue. If this was 2016, it would be okay to make these mistakes.

Don't worry about showing ALL the renders, it's okay if the player misses out on content if they don't like that content.

EDIT: Yea the game forces Jenna on you, no matter what you do, so it results in players not interested in her being completely turned off.

EDIT: A MOD could save this game, it looks like there are a lot of other people like me who see the obvious problems which could've been easily fixed in less than 60 seconds.
Sweeeeeet Jesus, man!
Feel entitled much, aren't you?
 

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It's not a huge undertaking. It's extremely easy. I kid you not man. Cheekygimp is already good with dialogue choice and plot flag management, a few more plot flags wouldn't hurt.

Also the game errors out a lot when you first start it. He needs to either declare persistent variables VERY early, giving them a default value or just check for nonetype. It's so easy.

On a side note, these are my stats. I"m the kind of player that is very choosy and picky about the women in game. This is just critical feedback for the dev. He doesn't even need to respond.
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If it's so easy what are you waiting for to do it yourself?

Some character interactions are part of the story, if you don't like it you don't like the game. You're not forced to have sex IIRC, even though some characters may throw themselves at you.

This is the wrong thinking my friend. Treat it like a business.

Here's what you should say IMO.

"Thank you for your critical feedback. After reading your experience with my game, I've compared it to other reviews. It seems a lot of people have complained about the forced sexual scenarios. I will think about adjusting it since so many players are complaining about it. You want the option to reject girls you don't like, this makes logical sense."

Or

"Thank you for your critical feedback. Unfortunately for now, we're going to force the player to have sex with the women they don't find attractive, so the player is turned off and doesn't sub to our patreon. I don't know why I'm doing this, but it is what it is."

For you to respond with me thinking I'm entitled? I'm a consumer interested in supporting your project, in regards to the girls I like. If you're interested in doing a little coding to fix the problems, then you will generate more revenue.

For example, did you know the game errors out in the start with the persistent variables? You say I'm entitled, just because I expect you to fix critical errors? Bro, come on.

When people make passionate posts, that may have frustration in them, they do it because THEY LIKE YOUR GAME AND WANT IT TO BE BETTER. They have good intentions.
First he's not the dev, and then who are you? the dev manager? You might have good intentions but you already made your point. Now it's up to the dev to take it into account or not.
 

hakarlman

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If it's so easy what are you waiting for to do it yourself?
I knew the game was on hold, but I didn't know it's been six months since last update. Maybe, just maybe I will, if the dev promises to add my changes to the core game. Any changes I make would match his existing style and theme to the letter. I could also fix all the errors too.

I'm such a sucker for the DAZ Lilith 7 model, lol.

Some character interactions are part of the story, if you don't like it you don't like the game.
Character Interaction = Sexual Scenario. You never force a sexual scenario on a player unless there is only one or two woman in the entire game.

You're not forced to have sex IIRC, even though some characters may throw themselves at you.
I was forced to do stuff i didn't like with the nerdy girl and it was terrible, even though I rejected her 192832983 times. Zarah forces femdom on you by forcing you to do sexual stuff with Monica on ZARAH's terms, not the MC, and in that regard the MC is submissive which I don't want in a game like this. I was instantly turned off. We should just have the option to avoid her completely, just say hi and bye or something. It wouldn't be hard to program that, because the dev is a good programmer, he could easily do it.

First he's not the dev, and then who are you? the dev manager? You might have good intentions but you already made your point. Now it's up to the dev to take it into account or not.
I wanted to sub to his patreon. I wanted to inform him of what I feel is needed so I could give him $$$.

I'm not a dev manager, I'm a consumer who wants to support the project.

But dude those bugs in the start of the game need to be fixed.

SO yea I deleted my post, you're right it was not the dev. See? How easy was that to admit a mistake and just fix the problem?

I'm not alone in my complaints, I read through the reviews. No one likes the forced sexual scenarios that could've easily been rectified. Listen, some devs aren't good programmers, but cheekygimp is a good programmer, he can fix this stuff, he knows his stuff.
 
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