VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[TSSG59]

That was not the point
Nothing against remastering games, the problem is you should first, you know... like... complete the game! This game has been in production for the last 8 years so much as to be obsolete before being done and needing a restyle.

As far as I undertsand it the game has been remastered for Steam because of Patreons increasingly draconian rules.
If a developer is starting to lose money because of those rules they have little incentive to continue, so Steam is a lifeline for them.
The fact that it's here on F95, a pirate site, and free to play is because people upload it here.
I haven't personally seen it on any other game site.

 

[LionHeart 95]

As far as I understand it the game has been remastered for Steam because of Patreons increasingly draconian rules.
If a developer is starting to lose money because of those rules they have little incentive to continue, so Steam is a lifeline for them.
The fact that it's here on F95, a pirate site, and free to play is because people upload it here.
I haven't personally seen it on any other game site.

I think your right on low following on Patreon the numbers have dropped, but the long turn around of the game is not a problem if the game is good, if poor it would have died. an has devoted followers. so the 8 years don't matter
and the reason for the redo was to work on steam and because Cheeky Gimp has gone full time into developing these type of games. discord has a lot of info on why the upgrade and about Cheeky Gimp going full time.

in the beginning of the game Ace, Cell and Cheeky Gimp were posting on this site a lot. now its Cell, Centurion and Cheeky Gimp. so the up load here is accepted. as for other sites...

its on several other sites.

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[Random06776]

So what is the current plan for Cheeky? Finishing off episode 25? If so, any estimation on that when it will eventually come out?

 

[Maviarab]

So what is the current plan for Cheeky? Finishing off episode 25? If so, any estimation on that when it will eventually come out?

Do people ever read shit before they let their fingers loose on their keyboard? Never crosses their small minds to think..I know, I wonder if someone else has asked before me, if there might be a recent devlog posted????



And to show how so far up devs ass I am (but can't admit it)...800th post in this amazing thread!

 

[ShatteredEnigma616]

Do people ever read shit before they let their fiongers loose on their keyboard? Never crosses their small minds to think..I know, I wonder if someone else has asked before me, if there might be a recent devlog posted????



And to show how so far up devs ass I am (but can't admit it)...800th post in this amazing thread!

Honestly I don't believe they read at all XD

 

[Machete]

I think your right on low following on Patreon the numbers have dropped, but the long turn around of the game is not a problem if the game is good, if poor it would have died. an has devoted followers. so the 8 years don't matter

I'm incline to disagree. 8 years are a lot of time. But taking into consideration that this games are developed by a skeleton team with limited hardware it can be understandable. About the numbers dropping... well... what did you espect? In such a long time span even the best AAA games drop in number. It's just to be expected.

That's why if a dev wants to really make a living out of this activity they should put it to heart to deliver in 3 - 4 years and move on with a new shiny project with updated technology, more experience and all the good will gained out of a good, delivered, complete project.

But i guess for some just dragging it for years works. Curious thing this one is the very first western VN with 3D models i've played. It's also the project that teached me early to not ever support a dev on Patreon

Anyway, it would have been all good if after chapter 24 they would have, you know, put out chapter 25 and the ending and THEN started the reworking for steam.

There is only one way to describe rebooting the whole project 1 chapter away from the ending in an attempt (i really hope mostly failed) to keep the hype up: A DICK MOVE.

There are some other project in which the dev, at a certain point, was like "ok, this project wasn't so great so far, i'm going to remake it". But at last in general they wrapped a quick ending and then they started the better bigger remake.

 

[LionHeart 95]

You know I need to respond, not personal, as I have really liked a lot of your post. but we will need to agree to disagree here. on some of it.

I'm incline to disagree. 8 years are a lot of time. But taking into consideration that this games are developed by a skeleton team with limited hardware it can be understandable. About the numbers dropping... well... what did you espect? In such a long time span even the best AAA games drop in number. It's just to be expected.

That's why if a dev wants to really make a living out of this activity they should put it to heart to deliver in 3 - 4 years and move on with a new shiny project with updated technology, more experience and all the good will gained out of a good, delivered, complete project.

Being A DIK, Takes about 1 year to put out an ep. a Movie from Pixar with 800+ people working on a movie takes 3 to five years to complete it. that means for WHI it would require about 100 too 160 people to complete in 3 to five years. they have 3 and some QA and testers not even close to what is needed to produce at a faster pace. but these games are really meant to be released like a comic once a week a little ep but those are too small so monthly would be Ideal. so I hope Cheeky and team look at their next game as a job and release at a better speed.

But i guess for some just dragging it for years works. Curious thing this one is the very first western VN with 3D models i've played. It's also the project that teached me early to not ever support a dev on Patreon

I understand this very much I have Supported many over my years of enjoying this genre and several have become abandoned two I really loved "The Sins of the father" "53x Homecoming" and a few others like C-plan, Midlife Crisis.
Cheeky Gimp took the time when the release would be a while to stop all Support collection for months in a row so I don't think he and his team were milking its followers, just not putting out timely Eps to keep the Followers. but we do love this game. I did drop support of one DEV do to game was not to my taste and he change style too much for me. i hope to be more of a Steam person as they allow more games like this.

Anyway, it would have been all good if after chapter 24 they would have, you know, put out chapter 25 and the ending and THEN started the reworking for steam.

Releasing Chapter one over ep25 was talked a lot about on Patreon and discord and most thought releasing Chapter 1 on steam would be better for the dev and loyal followers will wait for ep 25 and the epilogs to come.

There is only one way to describe rebooting the whole project 1 chapter away from the ending in an attempt (i really hope mostly failed) to keep the hype up: A DICK MOVE.

I'm not so sure here if your wrong or right as this is your thoughts and you should speak how you feel about it will help dev in future to improve. but a Dick move i disagree as it was discussed with his supporters before he stopped working ep25 to complete the first part of the steam build. and we know it takes money to build these games and if followers are stagnate or dropping to prevent abandonment he built a steam release I am for it I want a finished product.

There are some other project in which the dev, at a certain point, was like "ok, this project wasn't so great so far, i'm going to remake it". But at last in general they wrapped a quick ending and then they started the better bigger remake.

you are so right here, there are too many that have stopped the game and started a reboot of their games. I find this has two main reasons. One the DEV ability has grown and old work sucked compared to current work output. The second is the software has gone through an upgrade and requiring a mis match to current products and old released product. Lots of games have sub come to this and just dropped out of development

But maybe they need spanked to understand to hurry up on ep 25 !

 

[Night Hacker]

Do people ever read shit before they let their fingers loose on their keyboard? Never crosses their small minds to think..I know, I wonder if someone else has asked before me, if there might be a recent devlog posted????



And to show how so far up devs ass I am (but can't admit it)...800th post in this amazing thread!

You know, the time you wasted, ranting about a simple question, could have been better spent ANSWERING IT.

 

[Maviarab]

You know, the time you wasted, ranting about a simple question, could have been better spent ANSWERING IT.

So why don't you answer it for him then so he'll never learn to do anything for himself.

 

[milos1fan]

But maybe they need spanked to understand to hurry up on ep 25 !
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Weren't Bella and Jolina at each other's throats for the last two updates?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Weren't Bella and Jolina at each other's throats for the last two updates?

Now they're at each other's cheeks

 

[Machete]

You know, the time you wasted, ranting about a simple question, could have been better spent ANSWERING IT.

That concept is absolutely against anything the Internet stands for.

 

[dolfe67]

Dev Update 12th December

Hey folks,

Just a check-in to let you know how things have been going. Starting today, I'll aim for regular weekly updates every Thursday, plus any adhoc updates as items come up. Speaking of which, I'm never sure if I give too little / too much details in my updates OR if there is something else you want to see / hear about, so let me know...

So, full disclosure... I took three days off last week and spent some time with the family, so I didn't get a full week's work in. This week, I've been back in the saddle and things have been going slow but steady on Episode 25. Things are always a little slow at this phase (as there is a lot of planning / re-planning, etc.), but overall I'm happy with progress. Other than animations, we have the artwork finalized for three FULL / large scenes (Jo solo, Bella solo, and a Jo/Bella scene). Note: The Jo and Bella solo scenes can/will still happen even if you're dating both (so it's possible to play all three scenes), they will just be slightly different depending on the relevant paths. Or it's also possible to get none of these scenes (depending on previous choices). The "solo" scenes will be at the start of the episode and the threesome scene will either be in the middle or near the end of the episode (depending on paths). I don't want to go into too many details as I don't want too many spoilers.

Here is a teaser from the Jo/Bella scene:



At the moment, I haven't fleshed out the writing for ALL of these scenes, so I can't say any of them are finished, as I'm still putting all the branching options together and figuring out how many different iterations of each scene I need, but overall, I'm a lot less confused than I was last week and I've fully made the mental switch from all the Season 1 paths / variables to episode 25 path / variables (took a little while to get there.)

The next scene we're working on is a romantic / date night with Jenna, which will also happen near the start of the episode (again, depending on previous choices...). For this scene, Cell and I were gonna mix things up a little and give Jenna a new hairstyle and new glasses for the date and we came up with this look...



Initially, we liked it, but then we both sorta came to the conclusion that we didn't like, so we backed out and went with our tried and trusted original...



And a further glimpse of what's to come in the date...



Reminder: No ETA for episode 25 completion yet (or Season 2), but I'll give some estimates next month, once I get a few weeks run at it and can gauge progress.

Thanks,

CG

 

[K.T.L.]

Thanks for the update. It's always nice to hear about what's happening.

Think you made the right decision to stick with the old(er) look for Jenna. That new look is nice but it's like a completely different character. Bit too much of a change IMO.

But... I have a total blind spot where it comes to Bella. I don't remember her at all.

 

[Maviarab]

Thanks for the update. It's always nice to hear about what's happening.

Think you made the right decision to stick with the old(er) look for Jenna. That new look is nice but it's like a completely different character. Bit too much of a change IMO.

But... I have a total blind spot where it comes to Bella. I don't remember her at all.

Red head....Elaine's sister....former lover of Jo....is the mysterious 'third party' in the will....desperate to be on the lease at the beach house....

 

[K.T.L.]

Red head....Elaine's sister....former lover of Jo....is the mysterious 'third party' in the will....desperate to be on the lease at the beach house....

Oh, right, the one that bought the MC's things to the house. Thanks for that.
I always avoided her on every playthrough, there was something odd about her.
When it's completed I'll give her a run and see what she's about. Till then, Lily overshadows all the others

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Oh, right, the one that bought the MC's things to the house. Thanks for that.
I always avoided her on every playthrough, there was something odd about her.
When it's completed I'll give her a run and see what she's about, till then, Lily overshadows all the others

Lily supremacy

 

[BeingADikDik]

Jenna solo date? not a Jenna + Katie double date? so sad

 

[MagicMan753]

Jenna solo date? not a Jenna + Katie double date? so sad

They literally just started the chapter not long ago, give them time.

 

[LionHeart 95]

Jenna solo date? not a Jenna + Katie double date? so sad

This looks like a solo date to me