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dkatryl

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I actually think the remaster was quite necessary. The old version was subpar. The difference between the first and latest episodes is huge!
That was a quality issue, which I dont think anyone argues.

But a few posts ago, it was suggested (also) due to Patreon, which I dont believe is accurate.
 
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Machete

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I actually think the remaster was quite necessary. The old version was subpar. The difference between the first and latest episodes is huge!
I agree on the necessity, i still think that reworking all the game one chapter away from the completition was a dick move. The only one reason why they did it is because if the game was completed already the hype for the rework would have been a lot inferior. And all time fine, both freeloaders like me and dutiful paying patreon had several years artificially added to wait for the end of the game.
 

dolfe67

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I agree on the necessity, i still think that reworking all the game one chapter away from the completition was a dick move. The only one reason why they did it is because if the game was completed already the hype for the rework would have been a lot inferior. And all time fine, both freeloaders like me and dutiful paying patreon had several years artificially added to wait for the end of the game.
Patrons could unsub until the Steam release if they didn't want to support the rework. Everything was explained clearly.
 
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Machete

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Patrons could unsub until the Steam release if they didn't want to support the rework. Everything was explained clearly.
I'm not saying they couldn't, but they had payed dearly altready to be suddenly deprived of the game's conclusion which was postponed by years if it will ever come, the game can still get abandoned.
And i don't think you can get refunds from Patreon.

Glad not to have been a patreon.
 
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LionHeart 95

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OK, that is the actual reason he remastered the game, but what do "Patreon's increasingly draconian rules" have to do with it?
Please go to discord and read further back in this thread to understand reasons povided as you still do not seem to have the answer you need or go to this page or
 

JackMiejov

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Please go to discord and read further back in this thread to understand reasons povided as you still do not seem to have the answer you need or go to this page or
My request for an answer was specific to this post:

As far as I undertsand it the game has been remastered for Steam because of Patreons increasingly draconian rules.
If a developer is starting to lose money because of those rules they have little incentive to continue, so Steam is a lifeline for them.
That seems to imply that a remaster was needed to remove something that Patreon prohibits (incest, sex with underage characters, non-consensual sex, etc.). Are you saying that Cheeky made a post saying that he remastered the game for that reason?
 

LionHeart 95

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My request for an answer was specific to this post:



That seems to imply that a remaster was needed to remove something that Patreon prohibits (incest, sex with underage characters, non-consensual sex, etc.). Are you saying that Cheeky made a post saying that he remastered the game for that reason?
I see, so many respond to a previous thread here it was hard to follow all diverging reply’s. It seems you responded to that post asking the member a question, I was providing areas where to find the answer to that question. I guess you do not need the answer but wanted the member to stat their own misinformation. So you dont nee to know that the original post for the planed re do said

From Patreon post
“In addition to finishing the game, we had a lot of plans for 2023 such as re-doing earlier art (and adding animations), correct many minor script errors, flesh out some of the earlier scenes and improve some of the solo-girl paths with more content, add sfx/music to ALL episodes and make a number of much-needed improvements to the game design/GUI/system and also release on Steam.”

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TSSG59

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My request for an answer was specific to this post:



That seems to imply that a remaster was needed to remove something that Patreon prohibits (incest, sex with underage characters, non-consensual sex, etc.). Are you saying that Cheeky made a post saying that he remastered the game for that reason?
It implies nothing of the sort, it is a clear statement.
Many devs are abandoning Patreon as rules tighten for all sorts of reasons.
If you want to see what isn't there go right ahead. not my problem.
 

JackMiejov

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It implies nothing of the sort, it is a clear statement.
Many devs are abandoning Patreon as rules tighten for all sorts of reasons.
If you want to see what isn't there go right ahead. not my problem.
You switched from this specific "game was remastered for Steam due to Patreon's increasingly draconian rules" to "many devs are abandoning Patreon for all sorts of reasons" in an effort to not have to prove your misinformation. If you can provide evidence that CheekyGimp said he did the remaster due to Patreon rules, I'll retract.

In Cheeky's very first Patreon post on the remaster from Feb 16, 2023, he basically said they want to get on Steam to make additional income and they need to do the remaster to ensure the Steam release is successful.

So, the current plan is to increase the audience/income for WTHI by releasing on Steam. If all goes to plan, the extra income from Steam will give me more financial wiggle-room to take more unpaid time-off from work to focus on WTHI.
In order to get onto steam, we have to re-do the earlier episodes, because they are just not up to scratch.
You can read the whole post here: VN - Ren'Py - Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp] | F95zone
 
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