VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Akamari]

Assuming the patrons listen... But why do people keep saying 5 days here? Didn't the Dev say 4-5? If he said 4, let's make it 4. No reason to wait another day.

Well, I was going with the worst case scenario of patrons trying to show off their loyalty. 4 is fine.

 

[Aprilsun]

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Episode 9 almost done
Folks,

Just need to make a last few edits to Episode 9 and will then release. Have some errors to correct and the last scene to complete. Renders & dialog complete for the last scene, I just need to pair them up. And need to add a last minute animation. Wasn't expecting to get this in, but Aeilion went above and beyond and completed it!
Will be home from work in a couple of hours and will be jumping straight onto the PC when I get home and will work continuously until Episode 9 is complete, so next update from me will contain the Episode 9 release! Hoping to have it ALL done about 10 in approx. 10 hrs!

 

[Mt PewPew]

I'm okay with waiting an extra 4-5 days because Cheeky asked us nicely, but if a Patron comes in during that period throwing spoilers around without hiding them behind spoiler tags just to torture us, as some people love to do around here, I say we fit 'em with concrete shoes and make them walk the plank hang 'em from the yardarm to serve as a warning to others that want try it.

EDITED to add a better idea.

 

[mehGusta]

Hmm, I wouldn't exactly go saying "a lot of people are put off with incest", it's one of those most dominating fetishes out there, has one of the biggest following, no, I wouldn't say incest is the problem, the problem is that most incest stories are pretty generic and lacking, poorly written in a way that it doesn't feel natural nor believable.

yeah, you're right about the lack of originality and it's probably a major issue.
but i still stand to my statement that a lot of people are off put. take alone, patreon for example: incest is no bestiality, no rape, nor CP. yet it isn't allowed on their site. people even go out of their way to flag games they don't play, just to banish them from patreon.
if professional porn involves incest, it's always step-(something).
of course incest is one of the most dominating fetishes, but that doesn't mean there is not also a lot of resentment against it.

 

[Eerie Entity]

yeah, you're right about the lack of originality and it's probably a major issue.
but i still stand to my statement that a lot of people are off put. take alone, patreon for example: incest is no bestiality, no rape, nor CP. yet it isn't allowed on their site. people even go out of their way to flag games they don't play, just to banish them from patreon.
if professional porn involves incest, it's always step-(something).
of course incest is one of the most dominating fetishes, but that doesn't mean there is not also a lot of resentment against it.

Incest is simply not allowed on Patreon because it's illegal (in vast majority of countries), hence Patreon doesn't allow promoting such content in games and so on. Yes, you're right, there are people out there that dislike incest a lot, just like there are NTR haters, BDSM haters etc, you can't please everyone, it's impossible. But incest still stands as one of the biggest fetishes out there, probably has the biggest fan base in comparison to other fetishes, so those that are put off by incest, well, they are only a few compared to the number of people that love it

 

[Johnny-Doe]

Incest is simply not allowed on Patreon because it's illegal (in vast majority of countries), hence Patreon doesn't allow promoting such content in games and so on. Yes, you're right, there are people out there that dislike incest a lot, just like there are NTR haters, BDSM haters etc, you can't please everyone, it's impossible. But incest still stands as one of the biggest fetishes out there, probably has the biggest fan base in comparison to other fetishes, so those that are put off by incest, well, they are only a few compared to the number of people that love it

You tell em Eerie xD

 

[Ignatz]

That's what you call a complex answer...

 

[Eerie Entity]

That's what you call a complex answer...

Surely no pun intended, haha

 

[mehGusta]

Incest is simply not allowed on Patreon because it's illegal (in vast majority of countries), hence Patreon doesn't allow promoting such content in games and so on. Yes, you're right, there are people out there that dislike incest a lot, just like there are NTR haters, BDSM haters etc, you can't please everyone, it's impossible. But incest still stands as one of the biggest fetishes out there, probably has the biggest fan base in comparison to other fetishes, so those that are put off by incest, well, they are only a few compared to the number of people that love it

yep, illegal. that's quite the resentment in my eyes.

i guess we would need some numbers to see if they are:
few in comparison, like you say
or
a lot of people, as i say
(i'd consider 30%-15% still a lot, because there are also people like me who are indifferent about it)

 

[Seagal]

yep, illegal. that's quite the resentment in my eyes.

i guess we would need some numbers to see if they are:
few in comparison, like you say
or
a lot of people, as i say
(i'd consider 30%-15% still a lot, because there are also people like me who are indifferent about it)

What point are you even trying to make here? Sounds like you're just trying to argue about the popularity of a fetish you don't like. I mean, you're making statements that a lot of people are put off by incest or resent it, etc. Well, you could literally say that about any kind of fetish. There's always going to be "a lot" of people who are put off and resent certain things.

I mean, just looking at this site we can see that incest content in games is very popular. Look at the bigger / popular games here, and you will see incest is in most of them. If it wasn't popular or something people like to support you wouldn't see that. Hell, this game here might have been an incest game also, but it was created after Patreon started doing it's thing.

Look at the "Bribe" the dev here has issued just the other day. Tempting people with a bonus episode with content that won't need to adhere to Patreons guidelines. Perhaps implying there might be incest content in these scenarios, because he knows it's popular.

 

[DrFog]

take alone, patreon for example: incest is no bestiality, no rape, nor CP. yet it isn't allowed on their site

Patreon has nothing to do with it, it's PayPal that has a problem with it. Credit card companies don't want to be liable or associated with illegal or questionable material, so therefore incest, bestiality, shota, etc. is all banned on Patreon. Is incest a really popular fetish in the outside vanilla world? No. Is it really popular among all of us sexual deviants here on F95, yes, yes it is. Do some people here still get put off by it? Sure, but I'd wager they're in the minority.

 

[Akamari]

yep, illegal. that's quite the resentment in my eyes.

i guess we would need some numbers to see if they are:
few in comparison, like you say
or
a lot of people, as i say
(i'd consider 30%-15% still a lot, because there are also people like me who are indifferent about it)

You can always go and make a poll. I like polls.

 

[mehGusta]

What point are you even trying to make here? Sounds like you're just trying to argue about the popularity of a fetish you don't like. I mean, you're making statements that a lot of people are put off by incest or resent it, etc. Well, you could literally say that about any kind of fetish. There's always going to be "a lot" of people who are put off and resent certain things.

I mean, just looking at this site we can see that incest content in games is very popular. Look at the bigger / popular games here, and you will see incest is in most of them. If it wasn't popular or something people like to support you wouldn't see that. Hell, this game here might have been an incest game also, but it was created after Patreon started doing it's thing.

Look at the "Bribe" the dev here has issued just the other day. Tempting people with a bonus episode with content that won't need to adhere to Patreons guidelines. Perhaps implying there might be incest content in these scenarios, because he knows it's popular.

"... a fetish you don't like." i said i'm indifferent about it. big difference! and that difference is important to me. i'm not someone trying to bash incest here, because i have no intentions to ruin anyones fun.

"Well, you could literally say that about any kind of fetish." no i don't think so. sites like F95 can be filled with incest, because the internet gives anonymity.
go to a friend and tell them you like butts, noone bats an eye.
go to a friend and tell them you fantasize about having sex with a sibling, i guarantee you some will give you strange looks. especially if you have a sibling.
you can bet people, have told something here they wouldn't tell their best friends.

yep, incest is popular here. i never doubted that. that isn't my point

the "bribe" is maybe meant for the implementation of incest? that's far fetched at best! how would you even do that? the characters in the game have no blood relation, except if you want the sisters or the mother in some lesbian action.
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my point is: in all these incest games, "only"(meant as reason, not as amount) the people who like or are indifferent on incest would play those. but everyone, incest-lovers or not, can come to like WtHi. and i think that's great.

kinda seems necessary:

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[DrFog]

the "bribe" is maybe meant for the implementation of incest? that's far fetched at best! how would you even do that? the characters in the game have no blood relation, except if you want the sisters or the mother in some lesbian action.
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my point is: in all these incest games, "only"(meant as reason, not as amount) the people who like or are indifferent on incest would play those. but everyone, incest-lovers or not, can come to like WtHi. and i think that's great.

I mean, I could be wrong, but I'd assume the extra content would include a threesome of some sort with Monica/Katie/Jenna, so that would be incest... Say what you will about incest, but if two sisters asked me for a threesome irl (not my sisters, other sisters obviously), I wouldn't bat an eye. Besides, what else would he add that Patreon wouldn't allow other than incest?

 

[Ignatz]

Plus a bat in the eye, flying or wooden, would hurt real bad, so, yeah, no batting eyes.

 

[mehGusta]

Patreon has nothing to do with it, it's PayPal that has a problem with it. Credit card companies don't want to be liable or associated with illegal or questionable material, so therefore incest, bestiality, shota, etc. is all banned on Patreon. Is incest a really popular fetish in the outside vanilla world? No. Is it really popular among all of us sexual deviants here on F95, yes, yes it is. Do some people here still get put off by it? Sure, but I'd wager they're in the minority.

what does it matter, if it's patreon or paypal, who has the problem with it? it's seen as illegal or questionable material, like you said. my point exactly.
everything else you said i completely agree.
(i never said they weren't in the minority)

You can always go and make a poll. I like polls.

haha, yeah me too.
but i think it would be kind of hard to make a poll, of all of the F95zone

 

[mehGusta]

I mean, I could be wrong, but I'd assume the extra content would include a threesome of some sort with Monica/Katie/Jenna, so that would be incest... Say what you will about incest, but if two sisters asked me for a threesome irl (not my sisters, other sisters obviously), I wouldn't bat an eye. Besides, what else would he add that Patreon wouldn't allow other than incest?

yeah, that's true, but i think porn treats lesbian incest not as incest. just think of twins.

 

[DrFog]

yeah, that's true, but i think porn treats lesbian incest not as incest. just think of twins

Just saying that that's probably what Cheeky had in mind for the content that Patreon won't allow, because like, what else would it be? Bestiality? Doubt it.

 

[Avaron1974]

Lock the thread for 5 days - problem solved.

Yeaaaah, that isn't quite how piracy sites work.

 

[Akamari]

yeah, that's true, but i think porn treats lesbian incest not as incest. just think of twins

Technically, nothing wrong can be produced by an incestous union of same genders so I wouldn't call it incest either, but I would not argue with Patreon about it.