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Maviarab

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While I appreciate you perpetually manning the wall against the polyamorous hordes, I think we should cut Zoey a little slack on the walkthrough. Writing a single document that maximizes the points for all the girls simultaneously is a lot easier than trying to write out paths for each of the 12(!) girls, to say nothing of the permutations that may still allow you to combine a few short of a harem.

From reading through the walkthrough, it sounded to me like Zoey assumed that if we were going to be forced to pick a single girl, it would be at the last minute and we could keep pursuing them all until then. I can't say how much of that was miscommunication vs wishful thinking, but I don't think we need to bash the guy for preferring harem games or not putting in extra work to make a more complicated walkthrough (much as I would like one).

From looking around the forum, I'm pretty sure we'd have plenty of harem fanatics here even if Zoey never brought it up.
We do have plenty of annoying fanatics here anyway yes. Zoey's misplaced comments have sure as hell not helped especially when, as you say..she assumed...Devs have never stated there was a harem and for a looonnng time now have stated there won't be. That's all on Zoey...no one else. Also, her walkthrough would actually be quite easy to modify...she just can't be assed as has a bee in her bonnet now.

Also, Zoey has released and working on her own game now too, I would (personally) expect her to drop quite a few more walkthroughs in the coming weeks/months. Can't keep up the level of work she was doing AND work on her own project, unless that said project is only going to a be side gig going forward.

If...and it's a big huge if (busy with my own project currently) I can find the time over Christmas I might look into it and take it over but, as much as I do love this VN, it's a low priority when I can just double-check the script to make sure of any flags I need to trigger for my own saves/paths which in reality, at this stage, really shouldn't be required at all if you know who you are going for (and as such, should already be well in with).
 

Maviarab

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or people could just start from the latest ep with full points with whichever girl they want using the start any episode, like i did on a few of the other girls paths
Precisely. At this stage, that would be simplest I agree and would take 10 minutes tops for all paths (as long as the not helping Debbie bug using the QS has been eradicated in this last release).
 

Avaron1974

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While I appreciate you perpetually manning the wall against the polyamorous hordes, I think we should cut Zoey a little slack on the walkthrough. Writing a single document that maximizes the points for all the girls simultaneously is a lot easier than trying to write out paths for each of the 12(!) girls, to say nothing of the permutations that may still allow you to combine a few short of a harem.

From reading through the walkthrough, it sounded to me like Zoey assumed that if we were going to be forced to pick a single girl, it would be at the last minute and we could keep pursuing them all until then. I can't say how much of that was miscommunication vs wishful thinking, but I don't think we need to bash the guy for preferring harem games or not putting in extra work to make a more complicated walkthrough (much as I would like one).

From looking around the forum, I'm pretty sure we'd have plenty of harem fanatics here even if Zoey never brought it up.
Zoey said in her Patreon post she was dropping the walkthrough because the devs clarified too late that no harem was happening and their walkthrough was set up for a harem.

Thing is, Ace did tell them there was no harem at the very start when they started the walkthrough.

That Patreon post threw the devs under the bus for an issue Zoey caused which had people coming here making demands of the devs, it was a dick move.

I'm a big fan of personal responsibility, you mess up, you own up to it and move. So when someone messes up then starts blaming others it irritates me.

I know some people prefer harem games and I know i've become a meme repeating myself but i'd rather be the butt of a joke and we get to the end of this with enough people knowing the score that the whining is cut to a minimum than get to the end and have a sht storm of whining because people didn't understand they had to stop sticking their pixel dick in all the holes.

I've seen enough games turn to shit because devs tried catering to their playerbase and stopped caring about what they are doing or cater to the whine and then drop games because it's no longer what they wanted to make that I won't stfu about it anymore regardless how much hate it gets me.

We had plenty of harem posts before but didn't have as many people trying to lay it on thick with the dev making demands on what they should do and honestly, that fucks me off.

No one has the right to demand anything, we are here to play games they make and sure, throw a suggestion in here and there but the second you start to say a dev MUST do something because that person says so they can fuck right off the arrogant cunt.

Zoey's dick move brought issues they created and THAT is unfair.

Now, I know I can be a bit much at times and I know people think i'm a bitch or a bit to intense or gobby or whatever. Sorry, I can't change who I am and won't. People mess up, i'll call them on it just like I expect anyone to call me out when I fuck up. Zoey messed up and unfairly blamed others for that mistake which the devs now have to deal with.
 
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Can someone help me out here. I tried to download WTHI episode 19 beta so I can put the update in but everytime I try it keeps going to internet explorer and isn't giving me the game file itself. Does anyone know how to fix this or better yet send me a proper download link?
 

HornyyPussy

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Zoey said in her Patreon post she was dropping the walkthrough because the devs clarified too late that no harem was happening and their walkthrough was set up for a harem.

Thing is, Ace did tell them there was no harem at the very start when they started the walkthrough.

That Patreon post threw the devs under the bus for an issue Zoey caused which had people coming here making demands of the devs, it was a dick move.

I'm a big fan of personal responsibility, you mess up, you own up to it and move. So when someone messes up then starts blaming others it irritates me.

I know some people prefer harem games and I know i've become a meme repeating myself but i'd rather be the butt of a joke and we get to the end of this with enough people knowing the score that the whining is cut to a minimum than get to the end and have a sht storm of whining because people didn't understand they had to stop sticking their pixel dick in all the holes.

I've seen enough games turn to shit because devs tried catering to their playerbase and stopped caring about what they are doing or cater to the whine and then drop games because it's no longer what they wanted to make that I won't stfu about it anymore regardless how much hate it gets me.

We had plenty of harem posts before but didn't have as many people trying to lay it on thick with the dev making demands on what they should do and honestly, that fucks me off.

No one has the right to demand anything, we are here to play games they make and sure, throw a suggestion in here and there but the second you start to say a dev MUST do something because that person says so they can fuck right off the arrogant cunt.

Zoey's dick move brought issues they created and THAT is unfair.

Now, I know I can be a bit much at times and I know people think i'm a bitch or a bit to intense or gobby or whatever. Sorry, I can't change who I am and won't. People mess up, i'll call them on it just like I expect anyone to call me out when I fuck up. Zoey messed up and unfairly blamed others for that mistake which the devs now have to deal with.
Bitch, intense & gobby (whatever that means :) )? Absolutely! But that is some of the things most of us like about you Ava ;)

In all seriousness, you speak your mind no matter what people may think and I respect the hell out of that!
 

HornyyPussy

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Can someone help me out here. I tried to download WTHI episode 19 beta so I can put the update in but everytime I try it keeps going to internet explorer and isn't giving me the game file itself. Does anyone know how to fix this or better yet send me a proper download link?
Sorry but I'm not sure I understand. It looks like you are downloading the Ep19 beta there. Just unpack it then download the ep19 patch, unpack that and copy it to the ep19 beta game-folder.
 

OfficiallyGames

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I get not having a h****m in the game, totally fine with it. Its their game, their choice. But man, I am gonna feel really fucking bad when I need to make a choice of which girl I want. Still I get it and there is plenty of games with h****ms already, so I don't mind having a game where it doesn't exist/not an option.
 
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pletoxxx

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eh, i find it hard jerking off with 3-8 girls juggling around me monitor. thats why i hate "harem" and all the curse they bring upon.
 
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MisterDan

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have you used this 1
Patch to update Ep.19 : - - - MEGA
I may be missing something but is the patch actually listed on the OP? I only found it by going back 5 pages or so :oops:
 

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I wonder if someone else will make a walkthrough mod. I read about what happened with Zoey and the devs, so that's a no go. Maybe someone like Scrappy or OscarSix would be interested to do one, especially with a game like this with a very specific set of choices for every route
 
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Maviarab

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I may be missing something but is the patch actually listed on the OP? I only found it by going back 5 pages or so :oops:
Tep removed, guess for full download.
I wonder if someone else will make a walkthrough mod. I read about what happened with Zoey and the devs, so that's a no go. Maybe someone like Scrappy or OscarSix would be interested to do one, especially with a game like this with a very specific set of choices for every route
Beyond the scope of most mod makers. No mod I've tried yet actually details all the choices, let alone explains the consequences/differences. Most mod makers also highlight what they think is the best option. Why a comprehensive PDF will always be better.
 
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