VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Harlaw]

I insist. The conditions are for Elain and Bella, and they are getting the main house for Elain and the Beach house for bella. They are far too obsessed with them. Elain, who probably is the heir who knows to some extent all the legacy first thing kicks MC out, then when she realize this won't give her the property of the house she ask him for that. Bella is always around the beach house and in the last chapter she tryes to move in and she's very pissed if you don't let her.

Donald says that while the MC condition is very simple (dumping the trio), Elaine and Dizzy are very difficult. Laughably so if MC would know their conditions. Well. Having MC deliver the houses on a silver plate is not an easy task for sure. All he has to do is to say 'no, thank you'.

The devs have gone above and beyond in stating that the car, the cash and the BH belongs to the MC no matter what. Both your lawyer and Greg have told you that those 3 things are gonna stay with you no matter what you decide. Doesn't seem like they would go overboard with hammering that idea and then just ignore it later on.

Besides, according to the bombshell Ace just dropped, the gold digger's condition is closest to what Donald actually wants. Keeping that in mind, I doubt Bella's condition (if she is the GD) would be something as mundane as getting control of the BH after Donald just gave that away to the MC.

 

[Machete]

The devs have gone above and beyond in stating that the car, the cash and the BH belongs to the MC no matter what. Both your lawyer and Greg have told you that those 3 things are gonna stay with you no matter what you decide. Doesn't seem like they would go overboard with hammering that idea and then just ignore it later on.

Besides, according to the bombshell Ace just dropped, the gold digger's condition is closest to what Donald actually wants. Keeping that in mind, I doubt Bella's condition (if she is the GD) would be something as mundane as getting control of the BH after Donald just gave that away to the MC.

In the gameplay you already have the possibility to grant the ownership of the main house to Elain, and you can confirm this and make it executive with MC own layer. While the beach house is already property of MC. And therefore he can donate it to Bella would he wish so.

Feasable. Easy for MC to say 'no'. Difficult for the ladies to persuade MC or trick him into delivering the houses.

Seems possible.

 

[Harlaw]

In the gameplay you already have the possibility to grant the ownership of the main house to Elain, and you can confirm this and make it executive with MC own layer. While the beach house is already property of MC. And therefore he can donate it to Bella would he wish so.

Feasable. Easy for MC to say 'no'. Difficult for the ladies to persuade MC or trick him into delivering the houses.

Seems possible.

The fact that the main house's ownership will be a factor in Elaine's condition was referenced long before Episode 22. Greg hints at that and then Jenna discovers the partial email from the USB that Bella gave and Elaine more or less tells the MC in Episode 20.

The only time the BH is referenced with respect to ownership is to state that it is unequivocally MC's property. Sure it's still a possibility, but honestly it'd be a bit of a letdown if it's just that.

Also, thinking about it, if that is indeed Bella's condition, it's very easy to find a loophole in the whole thing:
Sell the BH to Bella for 5 mil, sell the main house to Elaine for 1$. Now you got 5 mil and don't have to leave Monica et al, so you're happy. Bella gets 10 mil, so she'll be pretty happy as well. And Elaine didn't want the money she just wanted the house, so she'll be fine too.

 

[JackMiejov]

is ep 23 update coming Soon ?

[VN] - [Ren'Py] - Where the Heart Is [Ep. 22] [CheekyGimp] | F95zone

 

[DaimonFey]

What role does that leave for Jolina?

Scenario a) MC has to leave Monica (even if that means Dizzy has to share money with him, but as mentioned maybe asshole Donald wanted to make double sure the MC is not with Monica and family and gets the money)
Jolina romancing the MC makes sense, but why would she be so abrasive and downright hostile at first when he first asks her out? That could have seriously discouraged him. She would be a lot more welcoming of the idea, she would fawn over him. And why would she involve Jenna with anything? That makes no sense.

Jolina being hostile towards MC at the beginning makes a lot of sense. Jolina is not some average looking woman so fawning over MC would be too suspicious especially that mail to Monica was sent from her's cafe

And the Beach House is already confirmed to be 100% the MC's property, no matter what, the lawyer explicitly confirms that the 100k, the car and the Beach House will be the MC's, no matter how things with Monica unfold. So I find it unlikely that Bella's victory condition hinges on the Beach House or the MC letting her stay there. Which would also be a very lame condition, the other two conditions we know about come at a great personal cost. So maybe Donald wanting Dizzy to be the MC's girlfriend / mother of his kids could be that personal cost.

I don't think that beach house has any meaning unless copy of the will was hidden there. There is possibility that Donald would want Dizzy to become MC's girlfriend. If Mc would forgive her after will reading then he will get Donald's "second hand" woman which he would take as sign of his superiority. If Mc won't forgive her then their relationship is destroyed forever which Donald would find amusing.

But if it's pregnancy or to be in a romance with Dizzy... Jolina would not help at all, unless Jolina herself is Dizzy, or maybe Donald had a threesome with her and Bella and both are Dizzy. If Bella is Dizzy then what could she gain by her ally (Jolina) romancing the MC? Unless her condition is to simply make sure the MC is not with Monica and family, then having an ally could make sense. But why would Jolina then first shoot the MC down when he asks her out on a date and why would she involve Jenna with sexual activities, maybe encouraging a throuple with MC, Jolina and Jenna?

Donald having threesome with Jolina and Bella is possible but I doubt it.
I think that Bella's(if she is Dizzy) conditions are worst of all 3. I think that Elaine condition is to get house while Bella's is to prevent it. Jolina's role in it is to help Bella in poisonig MC's relationship with Elaine.
I think that Donald's master plan is to destroy any potential relationship between MC, Bella and Elaine. Perhaps he also want to shape MC in son he would be proud of.

 

[Machete]

Donald having threesome with Jolina and Bella is possible but I doubt it.
I think that Bella's(if she is Dizzy) conditions are worst of all 3. I think that Elaine condition is to get house while Bella's is to prevent it. Jolina's role in it is to help Bella in poisonig MC's relationship with Elaine.

There is a logical fallacy in this. Elain and Bella's conditions would be mutually exclusive and therefore there couldn't be a 3 heirs shared legacy scenario which would, instead, seem a concrete possibility. Now, of course, it's not granted so that condition might even be.

I think that Donald's master plan is to destroy any potential relationship between MC, Bella and Elaine. Perhaps he also want to shape MC in son he would be proud of.

Well, sure the point of Donald's scheme is for MC to choose money over beloved people, and therefore, in D's vision of things, become stronger. Both Monica and Elaine could be motherly figures if not lovers, and that's what Donald despise the most. No wonder he the condition should put distance from MC and the two women.

About Jolie, she, in legue with Bella, was my first choice as Dizzy but in chapter 22 she could actively be cut off the game completely. Of course, it could be yet another deception and another red herring from the devs, yet at the moment i would discard her.

 

[Skeltom]

I think that Donald's master plan is to destroy any potential relationship between MC, Bella and Elaine.

If that's all he is after that would be some pretty weak sauce. But he's already playing his little games that he will see no end to. The guy is already dead after all so at best he got to pat himself on the back before he croaked. Unless he is not dead at all he is already doing it for nothing but to stroke his ego one last time. That's why I don't bother with his shit, just go with it as part of the story. I knew that one of Elaine's conditions was most likely to get the house but I gave it to her anyway. I couldn't care less about it and I'm not playing his games. At least not when I'm given the choice as a player.

 

[Geralt_R]

Perhaps he also want to shape MC in son he would be proud of.

This is certainly what Donald is aiming to achieve. And the will is the incentive he thinks the MC may require to become an asshole like him.

 

[joe2012]

could sum 1 pleez post the contents of the dev update in Patreon?
Thank you!

 

[ename144]

could sum 1 pleez post the contents of the dev update in Patreon?
Thank you!

The QC team is currently testing a mostly-complete build of Episode 23 and the devs believe we are on course for a September release.

 

[dempun]

Jolina being hostile towards MC at the beginning makes a lot of sense. Jolina is not some average looking woman so fawning over MC would be too suspicious especially that mail to Monica was sent from her's cafe

It WOULD make a lot of sense, except she clearly states that she saw him as a creep... Being there with Jenna and hitting on her. Most women would, I think. Although she was definitely flirting with him up until that point, so I wonder. We know that Jolina is proficient enough on the computer to find and defeat Jenna's hack, so it makes me take anything about the coffee shop with a grain of salt.

I don't think that beach house has any meaning unless copy of the will was hidden there. There is possibility that Donald would want Dizzy to become MC's girlfriend. If Mc would forgive her after will reading then he will get Donald's "second hand" woman which he would take as sign of his superiority. If Mc won't forgive her then their relationship is destroyed forever which Donald would find amusing.

I hadn't thought of that one, but I rather doubt a copy of the will would be hidden there... However, following that line of thought, something else could certainly be hidden there and possibly Bella knows what it is, if not exactly where it's located. (Mayhap a box of cash good old Donald didn't want Uncle Sam knowing about.) Perhaps buried somewhere on the private beach? It makes for an interesting plot device.

Donald having threesome with Jolina and Bella is possible but I doubt it. I think that Bella's(if she is Dizzy) conditions are worst of all 3. I think that Elaine condition is to get house while Bella's is to prevent it. Jolina's role in it is to help Bella in poisonig MC's relationship with Elaine.
I think that Donald's master plan is to destroy any potential relationship between MC, Bella and Elaine. Perhaps he also want to shape MC in son he would be proud of.

And there's the wild card in the whole game, what are the conditions "Dizzy" must meet? I rather doubt Donald wanted all three of them to win so Dizzy having to sabotage the other two would be interesting and plausible indeed. The one person in a position to sabotage both MC and Elaine is of course none other than Bella.

All in all, there has to be a `good` ending where everyone gets what they want. If Elaine is on the level with her promise to make sure MC is taken care of... He could give the house to Elaine, forfeit his own share by not breaking contact with Monica, Katie, and Jenna... This would add it to Elaine's share... Being on good terms with Elaine would mean Bella's attempt to sabotage Elaine and MC fails, which would then add THAT to Elaine's share...

Elaine delivers on her promise to MC, gives him his share once all is said and done... And gives some to Bella since they're sisters and all.

Well, that's the wishy-washy ending at least.



To Machete: Yes, you can cause Jolina to leave... But that doesn't mean she has to stay gone. This is one of those games where you never will be sure until the very end.


All of this give me the idea for Where the Heart is part II... It would deal with the lawsuit someone is sure to file to contest all the nonsense Donald put in his will.

 

[Harlaw]

And there's the wild card in the whole game, what are the conditions "Dizzy" must meet? I rather doubt Donald wanted all three of them to win so Dizzy having to sabotage the other two would be interesting and plausible indeed. The one person in a position to sabotage both MC and Elaine is of course none other than Bella.

Dizzy's condition can't be something like sabotaging the other two, because in that case at least one of the claimant will succeed in their condition no matter what. Either Dizzy sabotages MC/Elaine in which case she wins everything, or she fails and one or both of them get the money. This would make the whole animal charity clause pointless.

Also, one of the devs just recently stated that Dizzy's condition is closest to Donald's true wish, so I doubt his true wish would be to sabotage MC and Elaine, cause in that case he'd just give everything to her in the first place.

All in all, there has to be a `good` ending where everyone gets what they want. If Elaine is on the level with her promise to make sure MC is taken care of... He could give the house to Elaine, forfeit his own share by not breaking contact with Monica, Katie, and Jenna... This would add it to Elaine's share... Being on good terms with Elaine would mean Bella's attempt to sabotage Elaine and MC fails, which would then add THAT to Elaine's share...

Elaine delivers on her promise to MC, gives him his share once all is said and done... And gives some to Bella since they're sisters and all.

I just don't see any ending where both Elaine and Bella get along. Bella has done nothing since day 1 but shit on Elaine and ultimately try to get her kicked out of her home. And if Bella really is Dizzy, then that means she slept with Donald, so she ain't getting a single red cent from Elaine.

 

[acewinz]

More theories... good good. Although nobody seems to have picked up on one of my last hints.
Guess I can throw another bone on the pile, but this is the last!

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[Machete]

This is certainly what Donald is aiming to achieve. And the will is the incentive he thinks the MC may require to become an asshole like him.

I think we underrate (just a bit) the kind of father Donald is. Is him a borderline psycho asshole? Absolutely. Is him the kind of father anyone would want? Hell no. Yet in his twisted view of things he never really gave up on his son and this insane legacy is the proof. He wants MC to man up for his own good. He doesn't see himself as a pointless asshole, but as a pragmatical man that can be ruthless most of the time, but he gets the work done and he's succesfull by his own means. So, on his point of view, making MC more like himself is in the best interest of MC and it took a lot of effort on his side. It's a distorted form of fatherly love in the end.

 

[lordofhirunds]

Monica, Jenna, Kate, are main characters, along with Debbie, Lily and Wanda for the purely erotic part of the story.
Angel and Theresa, characters designed to confuse and create suspense in the tale.
Jolina, Bella and Elaine are characters aimed at the part concerning the will.
Jolina gnerated doubts and confusion, due to the time when she showed Mc the video and photo in the kitchen of Elaine and Bella or similar.
Bella is the golddigger and her purpose is to make Mc reconcile with Elaine and not allow Elaine to have Mc give her the house, get Mc away from Monica after having them reunite , instilling doubt in him about Monica(when she brings some of her stuff back to Mc).
Reacquaint Mc with Elaine and then distance him from her.
MC's conditions: leave Monica and daughters, do not give up the house to Elaine and have no relationship with her, keep Bella at a distance.
At this point one might think that Bella's job is to test and ascertain that Mc is as Donald would like him to be, cynical and coldly calculating( refusing Elaine the house, leaving Monica and the daughters, not accepting Bella in his beach house). It sounds like a treatise on psychopathology, but Donald is nothing more than that.
Since we are now close to discovering the truth, these are hypotheses,whether right or wrong and that's all,.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think we underrate (just a bit) the kind of father Donald is. Is him a borderline psycho asshole? Absolutely. Is him the kind of father anyone would want? Hell no. Yet in his twisted view of things he never really gave up on his son and this insane legacy is the proof. He wants MC to man up for his own good. He doesn't see himself as a pointless asshole, but as a pragmatical man that can be ruthless most of the time, but he gets the work done and he's succesfull by his own means. So, on his point of view, making MC more like himself is in the best interest of MC and it took a lot of effort on his side. It's a distorted form of fatherly love in the end.

a sports car, a beach house and €100,000....

I believe that this puts Donald at the top of the father many people in the world would like to have

 

[SonofOrion]

Is the game it's self still worth playing? I stopped a while ago.

 

[BeingADikDik]

Is the game it's self still worth playing? I stopped a while ago.

Hmmm, that depends. How interested are you in wine bottle valuation?

 

[SonofOrion]

Hmmm, that depends. How interested are you in wine bottle valuation?

Thanks for the heads up. TBH, Wine bottles should be either recycled, or used at a gun range where you can clean it up after.

 

[charlesrich]

The real Dizzy was the friends we made along the way