Holy Bacchus

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There are going to be more than a few multi-girl endings. But some will require some particularly skillful choices.
Well, I'll just say this regarding a particular possible multi-girl ending; I got to the Katie decision in Ep 20 and I had to stop playing for a while. I get that Katie's possessive of the MC, and she does seem entrenched in this view of monogamy, and that one night of sharing with her best friends isn't likely to change her mind completely on the subject, but the fact that even after that, when it would seem that she enjoyed it a lot no matter how much she tries to use being drunk as an excuse, she still hasn't moved an inch and is still being so stubborn is irritating to say the least.

Maybe there's still time for her to change, but she's honestly starting to feel quite psycho right now and a bit bi-polar because she keeps insisting she's not a "possessive, jealous psycho", even if they're just FWB or Neutral, but then she threatens to cut his balls off if he does anything with someone else, which does seem like something a "possessive, jealous psycho" would do. It's also kind of weird how on both those paths she's declaring herself to be his girlfriend when you would think that wouldn't be the case since there's a separate path for that.

Katie's apparent rigid immovability on this feels like a real antithesis to the concept of adult games and it is, for me at least, starting to make her feel much less appealing as a character. I'm still holding some hope that she will change and be more comfortable sharing him with her friends, but unfortunately after this episode, I'm not holding my breath on that. :(
 

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This is one of the best games I ever played here so far. A lot of sexy models. Very nice graphic. The player has a lot of choices to choose one or more women. The plot is unpredictable and nice. I am really addicted to play it. Hope to play the next update soon...
 

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Should we post typos here? I've found a couple ("it's" instead of "its" for example) but this one is the most eye-catching so far:
"Difficult seems like an underestimate, but that is definitely your style." - I'm pretty sure you meant "understatement"

Anyway, superb update, possibly the best one yet. I know I'm saying this every update but you're really getting better and better and such an awesome game is getting even more awesome.
Thanks man - Yeah, feel free to post any errors /typos you see here and tag Ace and I. Or send me a DM. Thanks
 

Rinbael

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And why should there be? The fact that someone even went and did that when this game was never intended to be that feels like a massive insult to the dev to have their game changed in that way.
He is joking. CellStudios is one of the developers of the game he does the renders.
 

acewinz

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And why should there be? The fact that someone even went and did that when this game was never intended to be that feels like a massive insult to the dev to have their game changed in that way.
As long as someone isn't monetizing our work we see it as just a modded appreciation/form of flattery. Besides it's hard to fault it too much when your lead artist seems to require that extra bit of naughtiness. lol
 

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Well, I'll just say this regarding a particular possible multi-girl ending; I got to the Katie decision in Ep 20 and I had to stop playing for a while. I get that Katie's possessive of the MC, and she does seem entrenched in this view of monogamy, and that one night of sharing with her best friends isn't likely to change her mind completely on the subject, but the fact that even after that, when it would seem that she enjoyed it a lot no matter how much she tries to use being drunk as an excuse, she still hasn't moved an inch and is still being so stubborn is irritating to say the least.

Maybe there's still time for her to change, but she's honestly starting to feel quite psycho right now and a bit bi-polar because she keeps insisting she's not a "possessive, jealous psycho", even if they're just FWB or Neutral, but then she threatens to cut his balls off if he does anything with someone else, which does seem like something a "possessive, jealous psycho" would do. It's also kind of weird how on both those paths she's declaring herself to be his girlfriend when you would think that wouldn't be the case since there's a separate path for that.

Katie's apparent rigid immovability on this feels like a real antithesis to the concept of adult games and it is, for me at least, starting to make her feel much less appealing as a character. I'm still holding some hope that she will change and be more comfortable sharing him with her friends, but unfortunately after this episode, I'm not holding my breath on that. :(
Nobody really changes, people can try and even show but they really don't change, removing some extreme situations, i think changing her completely from one episode to another would go against what the game is doing for 19episodes, atleast with her story.

I actually like her for the exact same reason you dislike her, yes i like "crazy/possessive" girls and that's the reason i have my main run with her. If we go with the sharing with friends path as something common we might as well add Harem :KEK:
 

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Alright, finally played through 19 and 20... Basically what I thought it would be, all sex and very little plot besides that. Was frustrating that, on my Katie playthrough, the MC can declare his love for her yet also decide not to tell anyone else even though he hasn't been with anyone else (yes, my MC has only been with Katie in that playthrough). Would be nice to be able to decide to tell Monica and everyone but just not have it happen yet.
Also frustrating that the MC then can't tell Jolina/Jenna that the reason he's not interested is because he doesn't want to cheat on Katie (I think that Jenna would understand and be rather upset with the MC if he did cheat on her sister). I am fine with working at the coffee shop, Jolina looks like she's in a real bind and needs the help. Considering the MC doesn't have a job perhaps he should help her out more often. Work toward making amends that way instead of sexually...
I understand where the "N" crazies may think that Jenna might have done something in the apartment with Jolina, not telling them what happened just fuels their overactive imaginations. Since my MC is not with Jenna I'd have no problem with the two ladies getting nasty together.
The revelation was as expected... Happened at the end as a cliffhanger with no ability to confront the person about it.
As always the renders are amazing, great work, and I look forward to more. Disappointed that it has been so long since we've seen Monica.
 

Holy Bacchus

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He is joking. CellStudios is one of the developers of the game he does the renders.
And I wasn't saying that as some sort of aggressive rebuttal, but more a general comment about the fact that there shouldn't really be one.
 

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So I just finished my Lily only play through of the update and I have to say after this I really don't like Jolina at all and after those scenes she goes with Bella and Theresa in the characters I never want anything to do with ever. I understand she was pissed at being hacked but that whole scene was like something out of a bad porno and I know this is a porn VN but you guys are better writers than that it was just silly and seemed to only be there for the sex scenes.

I loved the scene with Lily though that was really well written and romantic so nice job there guys.
I see what you mean, though I don't agree 100%.

I've liked Jolina for a while and I still like her, but her scene with Jenna is really problematic. Fundamentally, it only works in the case where the MC is pursuing both her and Jenna. In cases where the MC never showed any interest in Jolina she just comes across as a borderline sex offender. In cases where the MC has never shown interest in Jenna, Jolina's method makes sense but it feels a little over the top - and Jo really should have discussed it with the MC first.

It's only in the case where the MC was fooling around with both of them that the punishment fits, and thus makes it to the relatively lighthearted zone it really needs to be in. I realize that's probably the most likely scenario for a porn game, but it's not the only scenario and quite frankly the scene needed some other variations to handle those scenarios.

This is particularly disappointing because it's the exact same problem we had in Episode 19 where the big orgy was treated as a one-size-fits-all scene regardless of how much sense it made; the only way for the MC that wasn't dating one of the girls to avoid a threesome was to storm off and hope things worked themselves out without him. [Which, BTW, is still unclear even after this update: are Lily and Debbie a thing now if the MC didn't pursue any girls on team Katie? Beats me.]


In an effort to organize the rest of my (numerous) thoughts on Episode 20, I'm going to break it down into sub-categories. Proceed at your own peril!

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My, that was quite the treatise. Since I had a lot of criticisms, let me sum up by saying I still liked the episode and do want to see this through to the end. I'm just disappointed because I feel like this game isn't living up to its full potential.

That may not be an entirely fair way to judge it, effectively asking it to live up to my own ambitions rather than accepting it for what it is. But I'd hate for WTHI to sell itself short, so I hope you'll take this as sincere advice, even if you ultimately disagree with it.
 

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Was frustrating that, on my Katie playthrough, the MC can declare his love for her yet also decide not to tell anyone else even though he hasn't been with anyone else (yes, my MC has only been with Katie in that playthrough). Would be nice to be able to decide to tell Monica and everyone but just not have it happen yet.
This I agree with but I'm also excited to see Katie's reaction when she finds out the MC is dating her Mum that is going to be hilarious when it happens :ROFLMAO:.
 
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here is my unofficial android port of Where The Heart Is Ep20.
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from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage (or a new one on Android 11 :FacePalm:), because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me ).
updated: 18.04.2021 (Ep20)
Have an issue with the game. I download the latest chapter just fine but when i try to install it, i get App Not Installed. Ive also tried uninstalling the old version first, but i still get the same error. Any ideas?
 

Holy Bacchus

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Once upon a time maybe you felt the manwhore route was necessary to account for the huge number of girls and long story, and fair enough. But with the quick start option that is no longer true, and yet you keep writing as if it were. Why allow an MC who blatantly lies to the three girls (and possibly even himself) to delay the consequences of that action yet again? At a certain point I have to side with future players who will feel annoyed when a game that has repeatedly taught them to lie their way out of problems are punished for trying to lie their way out the final problem. This game's feedback system really is bordering on dysfunctional.
Honestly, the only reason I can think of as to why the MC is able to delay serious fallout with these girls and still see them behind Katie's back is to give players more possible lewd scenes with them whilst giving Katie time to (hopefully) come around to the idea of sharing him with them. I also think that, in that scenario, neither Lily nor Debbie will confess to the cheating if/when Katie decides she's OK sharing him because that would obviously do more harm than good even if it is just piling on more lies.

If I'm being optimistic, perhaps Katie enjoyed sharing him more than she's letting on and she's just afraid of what that means for both her and her relationship with the MC. Maybe she afraid that by allowing him to be with either or both of them that he'll prefer them over her, or maybe she's worried that one of them will try to steal him from her, or maybe she's worried that she'll lose her friendship with these girls if they have any kind of falling out over him. There's a whole host of reasons why she might feel insecure about this relationship, and whilst valid, they are things that you can't control and just have to hope for the best when you take a massive risk like this.

Perhaps all it would take is to convince her of that, that she shouldn't let her fears of what might happen stop her from doing what she wants in the here and now, and maybe that's how this relationship with them could resolve itself.
 
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