Nope, the mod is fine, ive got 204/204 pointsIn general with the right decisions you take one step forward, with the wrong ones 20 backwards.... Or the mod screwed up
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- Sep 18, 2023
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From my point of view, my decisions with Katie were always correct, I was never unfaithful to her, my responses were always mostly romantic towards her, I never wanted to encourage her to be a lesbian, nor to form threesomes or relationships with anyone else, I didn't even have sexual relations with Natasha and although she got angry at first, I think it was the right decision to put Katy on the right path since revenge didn't bring anything good.
It's absurd to see how the game plays out, in which the two are in love, they have sex, she admits to her friends that she loves him and is changing her ways, they openly tell Monica and Jenna that they have a romantic relationship, and in In the final romantic scene full of candles, she tells him to put a child inside her when seconds before he just told her that he doesn't want to marry her.
And then I discover that playing chapter 24 independently and answering the questions it asks you just like I played it and that there it does say YES I LOVE YOU, and why, because instead of being romantic you have to be immature pedantic with jokes or leering at other girls. Absurd in its entirety no matter how you want to look at it.
It's absurd to see how the game plays out, in which the two are in love, they have sex, she admits to her friends that she loves him and is changing her ways, they openly tell Monica and Jenna that they have a romantic relationship, and in In the final romantic scene full of candles, she tells him to put a child inside her when seconds before he just told her that he doesn't want to marry her.
And then I discover that playing chapter 24 independently and answering the questions it asks you just like I played it and that there it does say YES I LOVE YOU, and why, because instead of being romantic you have to be immature pedantic with jokes or leering at other girls. Absurd in its entirety no matter how you want to look at it.
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- Sep 18, 2023
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Actually, for me the main problem was discovering that if you played chapter 24 independently, Katie said yes, and that's when I asked myself what the hell I did wrong.
As I have already said, my actions have always been on the romantic side because Katie's own character gave you clues that although she herself said that she didn't like it, it was really a lie and that a little kitten was hiding under that hard skin. The evidence is that she herself admits that she would like to change the way she speaks and behaves, just as, although she says that she likes men who flirt with other women, it is shown that this is not really the case because she herself admits Although she said that, every time it happens she gets unbearable jealousy and it's not like her, so they couldn't say that this character is like that and if you don't like it, you're screwed because they were really giving you proof that the character It was totally different from what she wanted to appear, and that was really what I liked about her.
If I hadn't discovered that already in this chapter 24 he says yes, I would have thought that that would be reserved for the last chapter 25, but when I discovered that it is not like that, that's when I became a little disappointed towards this game. I haven't looked at the tutorial because I've never liked watching tutorials for playing games since I like to do it as realistically as possible to what would be my own real choices that I would make in life, but I'll take a look because I am very curious to know what the logic was in the answers that had to be given to Katy to score more points and to only change the course of the game in one thing, which is IF I WANT the end. Because everything else has developed exactly the same.
As I have already said, my actions have always been on the romantic side because Katie's own character gave you clues that although she herself said that she didn't like it, it was really a lie and that a little kitten was hiding under that hard skin. The evidence is that she herself admits that she would like to change the way she speaks and behaves, just as, although she says that she likes men who flirt with other women, it is shown that this is not really the case because she herself admits Although she said that, every time it happens she gets unbearable jealousy and it's not like her, so they couldn't say that this character is like that and if you don't like it, you're screwed because they were really giving you proof that the character It was totally different from what she wanted to appear, and that was really what I liked about her.
If I hadn't discovered that already in this chapter 24 he says yes, I would have thought that that would be reserved for the last chapter 25, but when I discovered that it is not like that, that's when I became a little disappointed towards this game. I haven't looked at the tutorial because I've never liked watching tutorials for playing games since I like to do it as realistically as possible to what would be my own real choices that I would make in life, but I'll take a look because I am very curious to know what the logic was in the answers that had to be given to Katy to score more points and to only change the course of the game in one thing, which is IF I WANT the end. Because everything else has developed exactly the same.
Especially in the beginning she is very much into bantering with MC. And she values MCs help with Natasha, even if this is sketchy...
- Sep 18, 2023
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Well, if that is the mistake, then the only thing I can say is that the game fails miserably because if to win the affection of a character you have to do horrible things or behave like an insensitive immature person, it loses all human and sentimental logic.
I already liked Katie before that party, and my decision not to fuck Natasha seemed more logical to me, and I assumed it was the best thing for the future of a relationship with her. If this game is based on a points system in which the most unrealistic options are the ones that give you the most points, it is really not a realistic or interesting game, and a tag called FANTASY should be added for such cases. Because that's what it would be. If one of the differences between a woman telling you that she is marrying you or not is whether you have fucked Natasha or not, then someone explain it to me.
- Jul 12, 2020
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Get over yourself...seriously.
It's a pivotal plot point in Katies arc....the girls has bullied her for years...made fun of her...and Katie wants her revenge...and she asks you to help her...because she trusts you...and thinks you have her back because at this point, you're not actually in a relationship with her...so she has not started to change her personality.
There...explained.
- Jul 17, 2021
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Another one for the list for me. People are so full of shit. Tell him like it is, bro:
- Sep 18, 2023
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Yeah, well, I can understand that at the beginning of the story where the two are getting to know each other, and where in fact the game doesn't give you many options other than 'get angry, don't say anything or continue the joke'.
But once you notice that they both begin to feel something, it is more logical that to conquer her it is by saying things more appropriate to the new relationship, and not continue telling her things like that his penis is bigger than the black one on WhatsApp xdddd
And I still say that fucking Natasha for the sake of revenge might work for Katie in a loveless casual sex relationship, but not for a romantic story. It's meaningless.
If I remember correctly, she came to the conclusion that it was over the top herself later in the game, bit also that she can trust you and that you will help her with all means possible. She's a chatakter with flaws instead of a predictable two dimensional LI. It seems that you are angered that she doesn't behave like you predicted.
- May 17, 2020
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If you are referring to Revenge porn with Natasha you are wrong. You may not do it and Katie quietly accepts your behaviour.
If you're referring to something else explain yourself
- Sep 18, 2023
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Specifically, I was not the one who referred to it. I have responded to someone who told me about some listings I made in the options I chose that the most serious mistake could be because I chose not to have sex with Natasha. And then others have justified the fact that not having sex with Natasha was a clear sign of losing points by arguing that they were bullied and revenge was very important to her and having denied you was disappointing for her. I didn't say it, and I don't know if that is the specific reason for the drastic loss of points.
In the end, my not-so-positive opinion of the situation is specifically due to the fact that it doesn't matter what you choose, since if you want to follow a specific path with Katie alone, you will do it and it will end the same with the date of candles, sex and asking her to be pregnant . But the only change in the final scene is whether or not she agrees to marry you, and that is where the choices do influence. And I see it as enormously illogical that for a final romance situation, the I DO is based more on the lust score and not the romance score when I consider that the most logical thing would be the opposite.
It may or may not be argued whether I have misinterpreted Katie's character, perhaps, but that does not change the fact that the scoring method seemed absurd to me, as well as paranoid, because as I have already said, the development of the character, from a At first, she appears to be a bitch and a sex machine who hates romance, but gives you clues that that's not what she appears to be and that it's all a facade. Damn, but it turns out she was a virgin.
For me, the most logical thing would be that if you are given two paths, that of romance or lust, and the girl, whoever she is, ends up becoming your girlfriend, it is because precisely the options you chose were the correct ones. Hence discovering that following a path of respect and romance takes you to the same place, except with the difference that with the romantic path they reject your marriage proposal, because honestly it seems like a big mistake to me.
But hey, it's my opinion, you don't have to like it.
- Jun 23, 2018
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Imo, the stat stuff in this game is awful. A walkthrough should not be required to successfully pursue a single girl but since the stat system requires you to select almost every single "positive" option (many of which you just have to guess which will give you points and which won't) a blind playthrough will often end in nonsense because you're short a few points.
Which is why I just cheat in max stats with everyone and treat it as an escapist harem game instead of the Dark Souls of dating sims that it is. But to each their own.
- Sep 18, 2023
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Absolutely right, in the answers to get points, many of them can be a lottery or simply options that who knows why they are better than others... For example, I am reviewing the guide a little to see what the differences are. with what I chose, and I am amazed, that for example as soon as I see Katie for the first time, the only option for points is the kiss on the mouth in front of her mother... does anyone really start So? Also in the pool tanning scene, only the options in which they are going to touch his ass or his crotch can score you points. But are we crazy or what? hahahaha, Forgetting what one might think when seeing Katie and believing that she is such an easy person, would someone in real life go so directly to touch a girl's butt or her crotch because she asked him to put suntan cream on her? I'm going to follow the example of this game, and this summer when I'm going to put suntan lotion on one of my friends' backs, I'm going to put my hands on her tits and see what happens xddddddd.
Yes, it is clear that this is a game, but it seems that more than one person gets nervous if you criticize the fact that the scoring system is not realistic with what you are really pursuing in the game.
A 2018 VN is really the "Dark souls of dating sims"?
I mean it isn't a "only ever two options with one being yes and one being no" game like some but still its not that complicated. There are only a handful of variables to worry about, and even that is thinking of all of them at once not one girl specifically. Imo most of those choices for each girl are pretty obvious (usual VN stuff of positive is good negative is bad usually) and it's not like choices in chapter 3 are referenced in 23 (beyond saying yes/no to relationships).... really makes me wonder how some people juggle real life relationships platonic or not
I mean it isn't a "only ever two options with one being yes and one being no" game like some but still its not that complicated. There are only a handful of variables to worry about, and even that is thinking of all of them at once not one girl specifically. Imo most of those choices for each girl are pretty obvious (usual VN stuff of positive is good negative is bad usually) and it's not like choices in chapter 3 are referenced in 23 (beyond saying yes/no to relationships).... really makes me wonder how some people juggle real life relationships platonic or not
- May 17, 2020
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I hadn't read this part, but it's the only scene I can connect to your reference to the terrible choices for Katie to make.
however, it is wrong to say that the reason was not to have sex with Natasha. that choice in itself carries few extra points (Are 6 points relationship and 6 points lust, nothing more and nothing less). so at most ALSO that choice, but on par with many other "morally" fairer ones
by the way, it is also something you can easily verify with the "start at any episode." not fucking Natasha in no way prevents Katie from accepting your proposal
here i lost you. there are 2 scores with each girl, relationship points and lust points. let's assume that they are just names
but the lust points would be what? relationship points i guess.
but at this point in the game it matters little because the 2 scores are merged into one score and that's what matters
I'm not really a code ace but the only other condition I can find is KDate, which you increase by going on dates with Katie, but this condition is triggered first, if you don't meet the requirement we don't really have the opportunity to invite Katie to the rooftop
the mechanism with the thresholds is always questionable, because for a relationship to end because you only said hello 12 times and not 13 is not fair, but here I still don't quite understand the problem
- Sep 18, 2023
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It seems to me that simply many options that do not receive points are equally good for obtaining what one is ultimately looking for, which is to obtain a girl or several (if it is one of those games that allow it) in which one is interested. To give an example, the game gives you 4 options, and two of them are 'I really like your skirt' (which doesn't receive any points) or 'Your skirt is as long as my dick', and that is the that scores... well, what do you want me to tell you, but the points system becomes a bit of a lottery, because to me that answer doesn't seem so obvious... A game should be good without having to look at a guide of help in choosing the "correct" options because I don't need to play for that, since the beauty of the game is being able to freely choose what each person considers fairest. And by saying the fairest I mean "normal" things. Another thing that comes to mind, for example, when they are having their first kiss in the bedroom, and you have to grab her ass instead of her waist. Grabbing his ass gives you points and being a gentleman and not going overboard in a first approach gives you nothing. If the obvious thing is that you always have to choose the sluttiest option to be able to get 100% the girl you're after, it doesn't seem like a very appropriate system to me.
PS: I repeat that I did not say that not having sex with Natasha was the reason why Katie did not say 'I do want to marry you'. In fact, 2-3 people have said it, but not me.
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i can agree that with some characters (Katie and Wanda above all) a classically romantic approach is not okay. and this rightly may or may not be liked.
however, it is not true that it is a lottery the end result, the reaction after each answer is almost always quite obvious (especially for wrong choices), there is no need for any walkthrough to stay close enough to the maximum score to not have problems.
it is also perfectly fine to play purely following instinct and temperament, but then it is part of the freedom to risk not getting the result you hope for. for example that the 100% "romantic" approach may not be successful with Katie is not that surprising (especially in the first part of the game), you are free to try the same that way but then it may be that you have to struggle more to convince her, maybe you will have a less perfect ending, maybe you will still have it in the end.
I repeat, the threshold mechanism is never 100% right, but here we are talking about a threshold 200 points below the maximum, a squeeze is likely to make a difference, it is true, but only if it is the fiftieth missed squeeze