Ren'Py Whispers of Desire [v0.15] [Mr_Fable]

[Enlight432]

That's a really good point you brought up.
How much is this game gonna focus on Alex with other women?
So far, it's been like 90% on Sara with other people.

The dev putting more focus on Sara's relationships with others? That's amazing, truly awesome.
But it needs a little balance, otherwise the MC is gonna turn into a total loser and just a side character.
My two cents:
60% focus/gameplay on Sara with others.
40% focus/gameplay on Alex with others.

Conjectures about the reason for Mr. Fable's approach
Globally, men generally have less resistance and are more prone to deviance – worldwide statistics
That's why the developer focuses more on Sarah's encounters with others, aiming to see if her resistance is broken or not, depending on the player and the chosen path
However, you made a good point; a 70-30 ratio is good because Alex 'probably' has less resistance. If that's the case, then Alex, being in that 30% category, would engage in sexual acts with others more frequently than Sarah, who is in the 70% category
My remarks are based on global statistics and adult game statistics, which show men having less resistance

 

[Mr Fable]

Conjectures about the reason for Mr. Fable's approach
Globally, men generally have less resistance and are more prone to deviance – worldwide statistics
That's why the developer focuses more on Sarah's encounters with others, aiming to see if her resistance is broken or not, depending on the player and the chosen path
However, you made a good point; a 70-30 ratio is good because Alex 'probably' has less resistance. If that's the case, then Alex, being in that 30% category, would engage in sexual acts with others more frequently than Sarah, who is in the 70% category
My remarks are based on global statistics and adult game statistics, which show men having less resistance

This.
Alex's resolve will be tested. But not as much as Sarah's. Its difficult to give percentages right now though.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Which is why I like the intern's model being so attractive - I imagine there will be flirting in future and will actually feel like a test as opposed to games where the bf's/husbands "temptation" options are just uglier versions of the wife.

 

[Mr Fable]

I didn't know we have a loyalty path!
The existence of this path is another strong point for this game
And it indirectly serves as a strength for MC's and Sara's personalities, showing how capable and intelligent they are to carry the story to the end without any Netorare or sharing events
This game is getting too good

While I appreciate the enthusiasm, lets also keep a healthy level of skepticism. While I truly am trying to create a game with all these paths, how successful I will be is yet to be seen.

 

[Couto25]

Dom and sub points can change how to react to a situation. Whether you watch silently or intervene, or stand up for you self. They will be used much later in the game., to trigger small events.

Aren't you adding too many attributes of MC that will make things too much complex going ahead?

Like you're adding multiple paths: Cuck/Swing/Cheat/Faithful

Then you are adding different fantasies on each route : Lesbian/gay/straight etc...there can be many others old/young/bbc/group sex etc..

Then you are making Sub/Dom/ route

Doesn't all these subsections will make the main story too much complex for audience??....I mean there will come a point where it will be difficult to move the main story forward because of so many attributes added to the MC.

I mean if you have a good story in your mind, I will suggest you to stick with the main story where you can cover few fantasies depending on the characters involved in the story...Else if you go on by satisfying all these attributes and characteristics of MC, the main story will be lost and all that will remain will be satisfying different fantasies of MC in multiple paths with multiple attributes ....without any main story by just developing some short side scenarios that are meant to satisfy some particular fantasy.

Just giving you a short example:

Like I want female protagonist to be seductive/dominating in straight route.

Now take an example as per your variable involved in the story.... somewhere down the line in future you are creating female interaction with Female protagonist scene: then it will either be sub/dom lesbian path depending on choices we made for MC...so you have to create 2 different scene then those who doesn't like lesbian had an option to go for straight scene or reject lesbian so 3 outcomes will be there...then there will be sub /dom in straight route too..and 1 faithful path too..so there will be 6 -7 outcome of one event while the story will just move 1 character interaction forward.

 

[MeltingTeapot]

Conjectures about the reason for Mr. Fable's approach
Globally, men generally have less resistance and are more prone to deviance – worldwide statistics
That's why the developer focuses more on Sarah's encounters with others, aiming to see if her resistance is broken or not, depending on the player and the chosen path
However, you made a good point; a 70-30 ratio is good because Alex 'probably' has less resistance. If that's the case, then Alex, being in that 30% category, would engage in sexual acts with others more frequently than Sarah, who is in the 70% category
My remarks are based on global statistics and adult game statistics, which show men having less resistance

Totally. I'm talkin' sex scenes here, not just the POV stuff.
Like I already said, I'm more into sarah's POV,
but I totally don't want Alex to get a small share.
dev just dropped that Alex is gonna get plenty too, which is awesome

 

[Mr Fable]

Aren't you adding too many attributes of MC that will make things too much complex going ahead?

Like you're adding multiple paths: Cuck/Swing/Cheat/Faithful

Then you are adding different fantasies on each route : Lesbian/gay/straight etc...there can be many others old/young/bbc/group sex etc..

Then you are making Sub/Dom/ route

Doesn't all these subsections will make the main story too much complex for audience??....I mean there will come a point where it will be difficult to move the main story forward because of so many attributes added to the MC.

I mean if you have a good story in your mind, I will suggest you to stick with the main story where you can cover few fantasies depending on the characters involved in the story...Else if you go on by satisfying all these attributes and characteristics of MC, the main story will be lost and all that will remain will be satisfying different fantasies of MC in multiple paths with multiple attributes ....without any main story by just developing some short side scenarios that are meant to satisfy some particular fantasy.

Agreed. I added Dom/Sub variable to use it later if possible. These are not a part of the core story. These will only be explored once more than 70% story has been done. Or maybe they will never be explored at all. I just wanted to track them just in case.

 

[Enlight432]

While I appreciate the enthusiasm, lets also keep a healthy level of skepticism. While I truly am trying to create a game with all these paths, how successful I will be is yet to be seen.

I agree, that's why in the review I pointed out 7 small suggestions, and it seems that all of these have already been implemented in this update, except for Transition, which might be a matter of taste
When the movement to the next render isn't too quick and is a bit smoother—for example, 0.6 seconds instead of 0 seconds—it provides a more fluid experience. But others should give their opinion, as it might be a subjective matter

 

[Couto25]

Agreed. I added Dom/Sub variable to use it later if possible. These are not a part of the core story. These will only be explored once more than 70% story has been done. Or maybe they will never be explored at all. I just wanted to track them just in case.

Just saying the more variable to the core story you'll add....the more outcomes/scene you'll have to create for a single event...that will take your whole update timeline of release....like right now you're showing 6 characters interaction of mc in a single update...later on you'll create 6/7 outcomes depending on so many variables for 1 character interaction, the story will get stuck..and that will take same time else the update will be delayed.

 

[MeltingTeapot]

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[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Larping on porngame forums as big chad, always a classic pasttime.

 

[JohnnySmithDoe]

The developer says we have a loyalty path
Meanwhile, some people: Cuck Simulator

A lot of games have loyalty path and swinging path - most of them are shallow. Can't blame people having low expectations.

 

[Filipis]

Nope, NTR needs no setup at all, other than dangling the bait in front of a willing victim. In fact it obviously only requires one person to be persuaded, not two (and more if you really thought about it, which you haven't, going by that statement)
But for NTS, it is NOT a matter of "finding out after the fact" making everything ok. It is not "simple" communication. It is intense, for BOTH partners in any ongoing relationship. Why must it be early, before anything occurs? Because by that time, the mind has already cheated and lost trust in the partner, and where the mind goes, the body follows.

Good NTR needs tons of setup for a good payoff.

Most NTR games just have the wife cheat as soon as the husband goes to sleep early without sex once in his life. But real draw of NTR is the corruption of the wife, losing faith in her husband, growing emotionally distant because of his/her actions, or forced circumstances that some might even find as an excuse.

NTR is a story about falling OUT of love, while NTS is about REDEFINING that love.

 

[NullVector]

Good NTR needs tons of setup for a good payoff.

Most NTR games just have the wife cheat as soon as the husband goes to sleep early without sex once in his life. But real draw of NTR is the corruption of the wife, losing faith in her husband, growing emotionally distant because of his/her actions, or forced circumstances that some might even find as an excuse.

NTR is a story about falling OUT of love, while NTS is about REDEFINING that love.

Yeah, NTR needs a ton of setups and a whole lot of other thing.
Though I dig netorare, I'm really into the Western-style kind. Like, it doesn't need all that hate or totally wrecking Alex and Sarah's love, or Sarah falling love for some other dude and all that jazz.
Alex and Sarah are still head over heels for each other, but at the same time, Sarah/Alex are also hooking up with other people for various reasons.
So far, the NTR in this game has been exactly like that ..

 

[MeltingTeapot]

Yeah, NTR needs a ton of setups and a whole lot of other thing.
Though I dig netorare, I'm really into the Western-style kind. Like, it doesn't need all that hate or totally wrecking Alex and Sarah's love, or Sarah falling love for some other dude and all that jazz.
Alex and Sarah are still head over heels for each other, but at the same time, Sarah/Alex are also hooking up with other people for various reasons.
So far, the NTR in this game has been exactly like that ..

Not every non-consensual sex turns into netorare
And half of netorare scenarios are not due to drama between the MC and FMC, but due to the bull's deception, blackmail, intoxication, and so on. So Sarah won't be upset with or hate Alex.

 

[Enlight432]

While I appreciate the enthusiasm, lets also keep a healthy level of skepticism. While I truly am trying to create a game with all these paths, how successful I will be is yet to be seen.

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[Mr Fable]

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Thank you , fill fix them.

 

[Enlight432]

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[KINGKUMAR]

Waiting for next update

 

[Mr Fable]

Planning to release in 6 weeks.