VN Ren'Py White Cube [v0.5d] [Anekin69]

[FuhQ6969]

obscenity and chid porn do not have constitutional protection(first amendment), there are also federal and state laws that ban these types of porn, In america you first had the Hickins test(1868) to determine what was classed as obscenity, then you had the Roth test(1957), Now you use the miller test (1970's), So yes, some types of porn are illegal in the US, And i think you will find that rape falls under Obscenity in the USA, there are some exceptions.
The concept of rape has been addressed in various forms of legislation since the early days of civilization. The Code of Hammurabi, one of the earliest sets of written laws(1750BCE) over 3700 years ago, considered the rape of a virgin as property damage against her father. In the 11th and 12th centuries, rape began to be viewed more as a violent sexual crime against the victim rather than a violation of social morality.
S if this Novel has rape scenes then more than likely it would be banned in the USA, And definitely would be banned here in the UK. since aN AVN can be classed as porn.

Yeah, good luck prosecuting a US obscenity case, there's reasons why that's seldom attempted alone anymore but more as footnote charges to more serious crimes like actual rape rather than just simulating it in a sex tape (if I was on a jury automatic not guilty as to me there's no such thing as obscenity, I simply won't watch/ look it at if I don't like it). Miller Test is 50yo, the stuck-up people that actually cared about that are mostly dead by now so isn't that relevant anymore. As far as "chid porn" it hasn't applied to cartoons since 2002 (thank you Free Speech Coalition). Think about it, if it did not only would Rule 7 here be pointless and unnecessary (it simply wouldn't exist in the first place to ban) I know of dozens of sites found elsewhere via Google that would have been shut down years or decades ago (so it's not like the gov't is unaware of them) . Right now the only grey area is realistic AI with lewded lolis, and even that can be found on some sites that don't mind possibly being the first test case, if the gov't wanted to bother (3+ years and they are still up). Not sure if you call real bestiality and incest "obscene" or not but Luxure.tv has been around on a rotating list of hosts for over a decade now. Apparently the gov't doesn't even give them priority (it's all real animals) so why should cartoon porn sites be worried? I'm just glad I'm not in a shithole like the UK, Australia, China, North Korea etc that worries about dumb shit like what cartoon characters are doing or tries to legally micromanage what types of kinks are allowed in porn. As everyone here is aware there's already enough of that bullshit to deal with just from payment processors.

 

[Rozhok]

Hey one favor can you unlock this patreon post for us

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it could be important .

Could you stop begging please? I've already reported you before. Just stop it

 

[smarty101]

Yeah, good luck prosecuting a US obscenity case, there's reasons why that's seldom attempted alone anymore but more as footnote charges to more serious crimes like actual rape rather than just simulating it in a sex tape (if I was on a jury automatic not guilty as to me there's no such thing as obscenity, I simply won't watch/ look it at if I don't like it). Miller Test is 50yo, the stuck-up people that actually cared about that are mostly dead by now so isn't that relevant anymore. As far as "chid porn" it hasn't applied to cartoons since 2002 (thank you Free Speech Coalition). Think about it, if it did not only would Rule 7 here be pointless and unnecessary (it simply wouldn't exist in the first place to ban) I know of dozens of sites found elsewhere via Google that would have been shut down years or decades ago (so it's not like the gov't is unaware of them) . Right now the only grey area is realistic AI with lewded lolis, and even that can be found on some sites that don't mind possibly being the first test case, if the gov't wanted to bother (3+ years and they are still up). Not sure if you call real bestiality and incest "obscene" or not but Luxure.tv has been around on a rotating list of hosts for over a decade now. Apparently the gov't doesn't even give them priority (it's all real animals) so why should cartoon porn sites be worried? I'm just glad I'm not in a shithole like the UK, Australia, China, North Korea etc that worries about dumb shit like what cartoon characters are doing or tries to legally micromanage what types of kinks are allowed in porn. As everyone here is aware there's already enough of that bullshit to deal with just from payment processors.

It does not matter how old a law is, it's still the law until it is changed, A law can be a thousand years old and it is still the law regardless if those who made the law are dead, you tried using that case when you mentioned rape being legal a couple of millenia ago but it does not work, even if you go back 4-5 thousand years you will find that rape was never actually Legal, it was just more socially and morally accepted until Laws were itroduced into civilizations, obviously not by everyone, Most people lived by the law of the land and had morals, as with everything there will always be those who are less moral than others, you are probably right about obsecenity cases in court being hard to prove especially in the USA, but the laws are still there, you talk about the internet and certain sites still operating after years, But what about the pirating site pirate bay, it took the law roughtly 10 years to get that site shut down, so that kind of reasoning has little bearing, It's funny how those who love freedom of speech and non cencorship of things love to alwways make exscuses for certain things and make arguments or try wording diferent to suit there narative, Like people use the word cartoon/game or porn instead of Visual novel to try to justify certain things shown in AVN's because of the diferent laws for different kinds of media and say they are more socially and morally acceptable now(diferent laws for porn/cartoons/games/animee etc....), It looks like you and i have a different mindset when it comes to what should or should not be in an AVN's, Its a very hot and a very sensetive subject, for me it's morally wrong to show rape/beatiality/sexual assault and child abuse(physical or sexual) if you want to call me a pussy or a snowflake then go ahaed i really do not care, we just have a diferent level of morality on what is acceptable, so for me this AVN is a definite NO, But thats just my opinion, you and others have your own, thanks for the talk, srtay safe and have fun.

 

[0le]

Yeah, after one main character dies, the author will introduce another one or another heroine.
The lack of a male character is disappointing.

Have you tried the new update? (I will not do spoilers)

 

[dkatryl]

It does not matter how old a law is, it's still the law until it is changed, A law can be a thousand years old and it is still the law regardless if those who made the law are dead, you tried using that case when you mentioned rape being legal a couple of millenia ago but it does not work, even if you go back 4-5 thousand years you will find that rape was never actually Legal, it was just more socially and morally accepted until Laws were itroduced into civilizations, obviously not by everyone, Most people lived by the law of the land and had morals, as with everything there will always be those who are less moral than others, you are probably right about obsecenity cases in court being hard to prove especially in the USA, but the laws are still there, you talk about the internet and certain sites still operating after years, But what about the pirating site pirate bay, it took the law roughtly 10 years to get that site shut down, so that kind of reasoning has little bearing, It's funny how those who love freedom of speech and non cencorship of things love to alwways make exscuses for certain things and make arguments or try wording diferent to suit there narative, Like people use the word cartoon/game or porn instead of Visual novel to try to justify certain things shown in AVN's because of the diferent laws for different kinds of media and say they are more socially and morally acceptable now(diferent laws for porn/cartoons/games/animee etc....), It looks like you and i have a different mindset when it comes to what should or should not be in an AVN's, Its a very hot and a very sensetive subject, for me it's morally wrong to show rape/beatiality/sexual assault and child abuse(physical or sexual) if you want to call me a pussy or a snowflake then go ahaed i really do not care, we just have a diferent level of morality on what is acceptable, so for me this AVN is a definite NO, But thats just my opinion, you and others have your own, thanks for the talk, srtay safe and have fun.

If there was truly a law, especially at the federal level, that made depictions of simulated rape in media illegal, then the same moral crusaders that have enacted the bullshit 'gotta display a state id for age verification' in some states would be shutting down all of the sites and prosecuting offenders.

Fox News and the like would be crowing about this moral victory.

Also, actual hollywood movies and TV shows that have rape scenes would be illegal, but there are plenty of examples to choose from. They may be subject to the level of the explicit content they can show regarding penetration and age restristions, of course, but not the scene itself.

 

[maverih345456]

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and on a minor note if the post is imported to kemono we might see the images from the post.

 

[hmm567]

There are federal and state laws, there has been for hundreds of years, It falls under obsecenity laws, but they are hard to prove since your laws for obscenity are not fully outlined like they are in other countries due to your over the top open freedom of speech laws and your amendment laws that protect everything that other countries find immoral and sickening, so why would they be in the media now, And do you not think these so called moral crusaders are not fighting for more restrictions, you would have to be the most nieve person to think there not still fighting in the background for change, As for Hollywood there are limits for what they can show regarding obscenity, as i said there are SOME exceptions in the USA, But you do have laws banning and limiting certain content in certain media formats, policing it all is a nightmare, just like trying to police social media sites, hard as fck and takes for ever to ban/change/restrict. just face the facts that people have different opinions and a different moral level.

jesus, can you both stfu. im trying to jerk-off

 

[anon6076]

for me it's morally wrong to show rape/beatiality/sexual assault and child abuse(physical or sexual) if you want to call me a pussy

Oi, do you have a loicence for that kind of h8 speech? Do you respect the Prophet (pbhn), pussy?

 

[Avaron1974]

Started out okay but now it's..... not so much.

Ever since the part where they killed off the male mc it's just gone to shit.

 

[Canto Forte]

The Matrix (1999) and continuing with three sequels, The Matrix Reloaded (2003), The Matrix Revolutions (2003), and The Matrix Resurrections (2021), just got a new bone to pick, White Cube (2025)

Started out okay but now

 

[maverih345456]

Well if everyone dont like anekin69's take , i think you guys should write to him in patreon demanding to change his game or cancel it to make a better one.

 

[Canto Forte]

Just made it into MAss Effect and we wanna see where this is heading ....

demanding to change his game

 

[dkatryl]

There are federal and state laws, there has been for hundreds of years, It falls under obsecenity laws, but they are hard to prove since your laws for obscenity are not fully outlined like they are in other countries due to your over the top open freedom of speech laws and your amendment laws that protect everything that other countries find immoral and sickening, so why would they be in the media now, And do you not think these so called moral crusaders are not fighting for more restrictions, you would have to be the most nieve person to think there not still fighting in the background for change, As for Hollywood there are limits for what they can show regarding obscenity, as i said there are SOME exceptions in the USA, But you do have laws banning and limiting certain content in certain media formats, policing it all is a nightmare, just like trying to police social media sites, hard as fck and takes for ever to ban/change/restrict. just face the facts that people have different opinions and a different moral level.

Of course they are pushing for it being banned. That's kind of what I said?

The fact they havent succeeded kind of hints there arent federal laws against it.

And even recent state-wide initiatives, like the whole ID for porn site nonsense, are on dubious legal grounds and being challenged.

*Restrictions*, sure. FCC guidelines, etc against when/where/what can be shown on public airwaves.

But no laws against it.

I mean, hell, take this movie:

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Irreversible has something like a 10min long rape scene where she is violently assaulted. The only thing not shown is actual penetration (but the same would be true for a consensual sex scene)

But from the IMDB page, you can see you can watch it on AMC+, Amazon, and various other streaming platforms.

Doesn't seem very illegal.

 

[fernandopoo]

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[Avaron1974]

Well if everyone dont like anekin69's take , i think you guys should write to him in patreon demanding to change his game or cancel it to make a better one.

Why would I pay someone to tell them to change their game?

Sounds like a weird thing to do.

 

[maverih345456]

Why would I pay someone to tell them to change their game?

Sounds like a weird thing to do.

Well its the solution and i wish there is function for free member to write a message but there isnt one. so paying to him and tell him the message is the only solution , plus the reason that someone should talk to anekin69 is that people are now complaining and criticizing because of the male characters death including its slow development so I think anekin needs to hear and understand the reception then maybe change the lore to satisfy anyone or at least make a new game.

 

[dkatryl]

Im not sure how you can conclude what my preferences are based on me simply pushing back against you conflating a trend in media to avoid certain content as profitability vs legality?

Also, the movie i cited was 2002. Hardly something from the 70's or 80's.

But okay, you want more current?

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Is stuff from 2025 current enough? I know we're about to hit 2026, so dont want to be accused of citing old content.

 

[fuckmywife]

No android and doesnt work with joiplay

 

[heer432]

i cant beleive this shit like the game takes 11 month maybe more to release the new update and thats it??? 4 senece wtf is that

 

[FuhQ6969]

So nothing has changed over the years since pornography started, How come snuff movies were banned, And as each decade passes movies show less and less of a rape scene or sexual abuse scene, its called progress as the laws change.
oh and you are refrencing and old movie made when the laws were different, funny how they would not be allowed to make a film like that now with the same scenes.
You like what you like and ill like and dislike what i want, each to there own, have fun

Kinda a poor choice of example, since by definition "snuff film" shows an actual murder. That's not a movie to be banned, that's Exhibit A at a murder trial. Fake/simulated murders in porn are still made and put online if you go looking for them, the difference is no one is actually murdered. Same applies to rape or a range of other things that would be illegal in most places like incest if it were real (though some sex tapes of the real thing can still be found when filmed in places like NJ where incest is legal). There's a big distinction between real and fake/simulated. Anyway, I'm done arguing, as you said at the end of the day it comes down to morals, which themselves are just matters of opinion what constitutes such, even when it's popular opinions.