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Thanos247

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My post was a joke... Nothing more.
Yeah some people don't get jokes, sarcasm, and are just offended by anything. Like South Park said; eventually they'll grow up. Before I came here, I never knew people actually took the story in porn seriously. I've gotten a hundred people either thumbs downing me on other places or face palming me here. Don't let it get to you. Just keep on doing what your doing. I for one LOVE the direction your heading in. I totally get what your trying to do; your not just putting in rape to say, 'fuck it lets just make a rape game and have everyone fuck her until she breaks,' like those 2D hentai games. Your straight up making people HATE this guy, thus creating a villain. And in the end, we'll all be rooting for Lucrezia and cheering her on when she gets her inevitable revenge. God damn, I can't wait to see what you have in mind for that part. I have my own evil ideas, but I'm sure your not as ruthless as me :ROFLMAO: . Fuck me, I guess I am taking the story in a porn game serious as I'm looking forward to it :eek:

Keep up the good work friend.
 

leg28

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Yeah some people don't get jokes, sarcasm, and are just offended by anything. Like South Park said; eventually they'll grow up. Before I came here, I never knew people actually took the story in porn seriously. I've gotten a hundred people either thumbs downing me on other places or face palming me here. Don't let it get to you. Just keep on doing what your doing. I for one LOVE the direction your heading in. I totally get what your trying to do; your not just putting in rape to say, 'fuck it lets just make a rape game and have everyone fuck her until she breaks,' like those 2D hentai games. Your straight up making people HATE this guy, thus creating a villain. And in the end, we'll all be rooting for Lucrezia and cheering her on when she gets her inevitable revenge. God damn, I can't wait to see what you have in mind for that part. I have my own evil ideas, but I'm sure your not as ruthless as me :ROFLMAO: . Fuck me, I guess I am taking the story in a porn game serious as I'm looking forward to it :eek:

Keep up the good work friend.
yes... story in porn is serious stuff. if i just wanted to watch piles of sex scenes i would be watching real porn clips. these people (devs) should be authors that provides you in adult entertainment something new that you can't get from real porn - story. not just comp geeks who can make hq images or videos of virtual girls having sex. that is why these games are called virtual novels, not virtual porn clips.
about this game: maybe direction was right (main plot for sure, i liked it and put on watchlist), but storywise everything around blackmail is so unconvincing, childishly stupid. of course that blackmail is necessary in this type of game, but cmmon do it at least little bit more intelligent.
facepalming: of course that facepalming and finger shouldn't discourage any dev. neither bad critic. but dev/author shouldn't respond on critics with facepalm but with argument. they have to be more patient than us, users. saying facepalm was joke is ok, i accepted it as joke (which i didn't understand but everybody have right to do bad jokes or not to understand it).
 

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Giving general constructive criticism in projects is one thing, but attacking developers while doing so is another thing altogether.

leg28 - I generally agree with what you said in the above post, but respectively disagree with how you went about bringing up genuine concerns you had with the game in one of your earlier posts recently. Of what I read, you seem like a cool dude and your posts are thoughtful. So the apparent slight against the dev on the previous page was most likely unintentional; however, I can understand why Lucrezia&Augusto felt the need to drop the facepalm even if you felt it to be undeserved. We're human after all, but let's all be chill, have healthy discussions, and enjoy the game.

Players should feel free to post issues that they might have with the game in the thread dedicated to it especially if the developer is around to hear them. The developer, for their part, should listen and address concerns that players might be running into with the game. Seeing things from different perspectives helps to see a better picture of it all on the whole. There might be things not yet revealed to players and only makes sense later, but also developers can be too close to a project and can't see certain problems because of it (such as plot progression, continuity errors, spelling, and so on). Some problems might be obvious to one side and not the other. While a game is in development, this relationship is almost like a partnership, and having healthy discussions about various topics of a game helps to improve it overall -- as long as everyone is cool with one another and have mature, thoughtful debates and not let them devolve into a shitstorm of negativity and name-calling. So let's all be excellent to one another. There's already enough bad juju in the world to deal with as it is.

That said, I haven't actually explored the game itself other than making sure it ran. This might be a good project to jump into and see how things develop. I'll keep in mind of what folks have said in the thread (of what I read, of course) and in the reviews (which includes the dev's take on things) when I finally give the game a solid try. Hopefully, it'll be a fun experience and the issues that many people had -- especially with the diction and the game's story -- isn't quite as bad as folks made it out to be. Poor writing skills from a developer unwilling to improve is a sure way for me to drop a project.

I apologize for the spiel. I didn't originally intend to go on as long as I did. It is what it is. Alrighty, be safe everyone, and have fun! Hopefully the game is a blast too! Cheers! ;]
 

Thanos247

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yes... story in porn is serious stuff. if i just wanted to watch piles of sex scenes i would be watching real porn clips. these people (devs) should be authors that provides you in adult entertainment something new that you can't get from real porn - story. not just comp geeks who can make hq images or videos of virtual girls having sex. that is why these games are called virtual novels, not virtual porn clips.
about this game: maybe direction was right (main plot for sure, i liked it and put on watchlist), but storywise everything around blackmail is so unconvincing, childishly stupid. of course that blackmail is necessary in this type of game, but cmmon do it at least little bit more intelligent.
facepalming: of course that facepalming and finger shouldn't discourage any dev. neither bad critic. but dev/author shouldn't respond on critics with facepalm but with argument. they have to be more patient than us, users. saying facepalm was joke is ok, i accepted it as joke (which i didn't understand but everybody have right to do bad jokes or not to understand it).
Now calling his story "childishly stupid," that's just rude. One thing I've learned in life; those who can't do, criticize. Its like someone on F95 said, 'similar to calling my girlfriend ugly but still checking out her ass while going to fap about her.' Although he put it better than I. Your calling his story, "unconvincing" and saying he needs " little bit more intelligent." Where's your story, or is the only thing you are good for to complain about something free given to you? Buddy, you can insult me all you want as I've been called worse, but insulting the man who's pouring his heart and soul into this game where you just bitch and complain about isn't exactly acting like an adult yourself. Pot meet kettle. Although thats kind of funny: He needs to be more, intelligent. Sure, because he's trying to win an Academy Award for best screenplay.

And I absolutely hate your last sentence on the facepalming comment. Saying you can make comments, but he needs to be more patient than you. What a cowardly way to say that its ok for you to talk shit but he needs to shut up and take it. Just like a bully saying he can throw punches but he can't fight his own battles against people like you.

You should find something else to do other than insult people's hard work.
 
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leg28

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Now calling his story "childishly stupid," that's just rude. One thing I've learned in life; those who can't do, criticize. Its like someone on F95 said, 'similar to calling my girlfriend ugly but still checking out her ass while going to fap about her.' Although he put it better than I. Your calling his story, "unconvincing" and saying he needs " little bit more intelligent." Where's your story, or is the only thing you are good for to complain about something free given to you? Buddy, you can insult me all you want as I've been called worse, but insulting the man who's pouring his heart and soul into this game where you just bitch and complain about isn't exactly acting like an adult yourself. Pot meet kettle. Although thats kind of funny: He needs to be more, intelligent. Sure, because he's trying to win an Academy Award for best screenplay.

And I absolutely hate your last sentence on the facepalming comment. Saying you can make comments, but he needs to be more patient than you. What a cowardly way to say that its ok for you to talk shit but he needs to shut up and take it. Just like a bully saying he can throw punches but he can't fight his own battles against people like you.

You should find something else to do other than insult people's hard work.
what a missinterpretation! even rude and insulting from one preaching against rudeness and insults. bigotry i say. to cut your bs and falsely twisting my words
1. i didn't attack dev's work in global as childishly stupid, just blackmail segment -> quote:
"maybe direction was right (main plot for sure, i liked it and put on watchlist), but storywise everything around blackmail is so unconvincing, childishly stupid. of course that blackmail is necessary in this type of game, but cmmon do it at least little bit more intelligent."
2. movies, music, books... are all subject to critics and to all critics you can apply nonsense comparison you wrote "calling my girlfriend ugly but still checking out her ass"
and i don't have habit calling other people's gfs ugly and then fap on them. are you? mocking someone for what mother nature gave him/her is not nice, but criticize work is welcome. it might even help author to improve
same goes to another ignorant batch of remarks all about "if you didn't do something, you can't criticized it" aside fact you don't know anything about me, it is wrong! e.g. most respected book, movie, music, art critics never wrote book, made album. painting or movie and yet are highly respected by authors.
3. expecting story for academy award? hell no! but just not to insult inteligence yes.
4. the only thing i might agree is maybe i shouldn't be so sharp in objections and sugarcoated it, but you're last one to complain. no matter of words i used, argument stays and i'm not lonely.
5. the last, facepalming issue is most devious, malice twisting of my words and garnish with accusation that i'm coward and bully who wants to criticize but the one who is criticized should shut up. it is blatant lie. i said i was expecting debate from author not finger/facepalm -> quote: "dev/author shouldn't respond on critics with facepalm but with argument", because work is in progress and can improve - that is why i put my critics in discussion thread, not at reviews.
as said this ends our debate, at least from my side. it is time to return thread to debate about product
 

Lucrezia&Augusto

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what a missinterpretation! even rude and insulting from one preaching against rudeness and insults. bigotry i say. to cut your bs and falsely twisting my words
1. i didn't attack dev's work in global as childishly stupid, just blackmail segment -> quote:
"maybe direction was right (main plot for sure, i liked it and put on watchlist), but storywise everything around blackmail is so unconvincing, childishly stupid. of course that blackmail is necessary in this type of game, but cmmon do it at least little bit more intelligent."
2. movies, music, books... are all subject to critics and to all critics you can apply nonsense comparison you wrote "calling my girlfriend ugly but still checking out her ass"
and i don't have habit calling other people's gfs ugly and then fap on them. are you? mocking someone for what mother nature gave him/her is not nice, but criticize work is welcome. it might even help author to improve
same goes to another ignorant batch of remarks all about "if you didn't do something, you can't criticized it" aside fact you don't know anything about me, it is wrong! e.g. most respected book, movie, music, art critics never wrote book, made album. painting or movie and yet are highly respected by authors.
3. expecting story for academy award? hell no! but just not to insult inteligence yes.
4. the only thing i might agree is maybe i shouldn't be so sharp in objections and sugarcoated it, but you're last one to complain. no matter of words i used, argument stays and i'm not lonely.
5. the last, facepalming issue is most devious, malice twisting of my words and garnish with accusation that i'm coward and bully who wants to criticize but the one who is criticized should shut up. it is blatant lie. i said i was expecting debate from author not finger/facepalm -> quote: "dev/author shouldn't respond on critics with facepalm but with argument", because work is in progress and can improve - that is why i put my critics in discussion thread, not at reviews.
as said this ends our debate, at least from my side. it is time to return thread to debate about product
Dude, I replied to your post with a puzzled face... because you wrote something bad and of your own personal taste....
You didn't offer any constructive or logical criticism...
You said the right move is to use the chainsaw on the characters ahahahah That seems excessive.
So I thought if he can write this I can do the puzzled face.
I think that a good critic after having expressed his opinion would have turned away from that painting and would have gone to enjoy other works of art and would never have thought of going to the artist and telling him I would burn your painting.
The CRITIC..... criticises but respects the work of other people.
I would like to conclude by making you laugh.
Michelangelo Buonarroti was born in Italy in 1475, a famous artist... You may have heard of him.
Let me explain something to you. Michelangelo one day thought of going beyond his limits... He had an ambition... He was a person who hated to remain in the ordinary and banal things.
So he decided one day to take a block of marble that was so ugly that even two very famous artists of the time had rejected it.
With that piece of stone nothing could ever be created..." said the two artists comparing themselves "Who knows, maybe they had called in some critics too (I added that one myself).
Where others saw a destroyed stone Michelangelo saw... I enclose the photos.
ATTENTION I absolutely do not compare myself to Michelangelo that is clear...
I only say, and I would like to say it especially to the younger guys, to dare to try...It is not important how good you will be...It does not matter how great your work will be.
No matter how much people may criticise your work... But be free to face your dreams...
Now I hope I can say goodbye in a friendly way clarify here this debate and let you go to enjoy other works....
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Edoardo95

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C'è scritto italiano ma è solo in inglese, c'è la possibilità di tradurlo in italiano per Android?
 

hashmansbrew

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Michele punishing her is something I wanted to see. The plumber is something I wanted to see. This isn't daytime soaps, you don't have to fade to black for the censors! Stop showing me tiny dick and start showing me wife peril.
 
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