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Vermine

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Sorry in advance for the long incoming post XD

As said, they are working on it. There is one quest in the game right now that you can try out if you want. And there have been bits of lore and story published throughout the years that this game has been in development. I think they may be developing the quest and story bits separately from the sexual content that mostly dominates the Patreon releases. Mostly to keep the Patreon crowd happy.
I haven't been posting in the forums yet, but that bit made me want to participate in the conversation.

Even though they are probably developing quest lines and dialogue based interaction, i still feel like there is one really big thing lacking in that game, just like in many other porn games.

i recently played a bit of illusion games, older and newer ones, and realized how much the various interactions tend to disappear throughout time.

Graphics are evolving, models look great and lighting and animations look better than ever, but the gameplay element? they just seem to go extinct...

Try to picture it that way :
what is a FPS game about? what is a platformer about? what is an action adventure game about?

in an FPS, you use weaponry to shoot your enemies and move on from point A to point B
in a platformer, your character has abilities that help you navigate the 2D or 3D world in a fluid and fun manner
in an action adventure game, you have a mix of game mechanics that help you navigate the world, it could be first person or third person, but what matters is the dose of action and exploration and the fluidity of interaction between your character and the world.

what is a porn game about? ...

If we look at most porn games nowadays, even the "successful" ones, you see these are mostly just a "insert game genre" with a bunch of intercourse animations in it.

you could for instance mod mass effect and add sexual intercourse in it, instead of the softcore content there already is, and it would literally be the best porn game on earth, you could do that with any games, just add a bunch of cool looking sex animation in it and make it the best porn game ever.

now about Wildlife :

i'm gonna say there are two things i really like about it :

The character models are really pretty, i really like the semi realistic look they went for.
Flying with maya feels fun and fluid.

now for the things i dislike :

the map looks like any unreal model pack put together
the level design is very amateurish and doesn't feel right in most spaces (especially the village)
the 3C (character, control, camera) is garbage (except for maya's flying control).
it's very hardware heavy for not much visual outcome (again, characters look great, but that's all there is)

and on top of that, the worst offender, the sexual intercourse, have not been thought out as a gameplay element, they are just here for show, and even if most animations look cool, they are useless, and it doesn't feel like there will be any changes to that in the future, if that was the case, it would already be in a rough state after all that time.

i'm not criticizing only Wildlife, but mostly complaining about a lack of vision from most porn game devs, they all want to create their own little game, and that's great, but at the end of the day, this won't be a good exploration/action/rpg game, it's gonna be a very mediocre one, with porn added to it.

If we use the FPS example again, if that was developed with the same state of mind, you'd have a game where you look at people shooting each others with cool looking animations loop, with the possibility to orbit around, vary the speed and change their positions... doesn't sound very fun to me...
When backers or players would start complaining about the lack of gameplay content, the devs would answer with addition of new character models, new animations, but zero shooting gameplay...

So... it's a bit of a stretch, but i'd love if nintendo themselves made porn games XD
If porn devs had the same state of mind nintendo has, you'd have a porn game where the intercourse is actually interactive, with fun twists to it, like the challenge to not cum too fast, the challenge to please your partner, different mechanics to make it a really appealing moment with different surprises and a constant questioning of "how to achieve something"

I personally which one day to come up with my own game, and the main goal is going to be just that, make it an interesting interactive experience, not just a glorified slideshow
 

156_163_146_167

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If we look at most porn games nowadays, even the "successful" ones, you see these are mostly just a "insert game genre" with a bunch of intercourse animations in it.
Yeah, that's true. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. A good porn game doesn't have to be about the sex first and foremost. Its gameplay doesn't have to revolve around it. I think a good platformer or RPG or whatever other genre with the sexual content integrated well into it is a good and enjoyable porn game. And when I say well integrated, I don't mean the ones where the sexual content almost feels like an afterthought. For instance, where the game is pretty much a regular game, up until the point where you die and get a game over sex animation. Sex can also be an integral role in the story of the game. And I feel like that's the route they'll take with Wild Life.
 

marmaduke

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Your wall of text makes sense and is well written, but the devs know all this and are working on exactly that.
But as you would find out very quickly yourself those arent simple quick things to do, it takes a lot of time and iteration to find something that works. That goes for gameplay and also story elements. Compared to sex animations which they seem to be able to produce quite quickly.

I personally which one day to come up with my own game, and the main goal is going to be just that, make it an interesting interactive experience, not just a glorified slideshow
Please do that, the world needs that ONE dev who knows exactly what people want and how to do it.
 

Vermine

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as you would find out very quickly yourself those arent simple quick things to do
I know about that, i'm a bit familiar with unreal engine 4 myself since i work in a video game studio, it's not like you can simply add a feature and call it a day, i'm a 2D artist and so i'm not even skilled in code, so i won't deny how much work this requires.

Please do that, the world needs that ONE dev who knows exactly what people want and how to do it.
Haha, i don't know if you are being sarcastic with that last sentence XD but for now i'm focusing on my only skill being 2D concept art and a bit of 3D modelling, i think the tough part to form a team around a porn game is to find talented people who are willing to put that talent into such project.

Although, like i said in my previous post, i'm not criticizing "only" Wildlife, mostly the overall "porn game industry" if there is such a thing.
i think Wildlife may have potential, the amount of work they've put into assets creations (models and animations) would make any porn studio blush, even illusion to be honest...
I just feel like it's just this close to be an interesting porn game, and set itself appart from the crowd, most devs don't have the team or money this one has, so i hope they put it to good use, i trust they will
 
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Krosos

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Sorry in advance for the long incoming post XD



I haven't been posting in the forums yet, but that bit made me want to participate in the conversation.

Even though they are probably developing quest lines and dialogue based interaction, i still feel like there is one really big thing lacking in that game, just like in many other porn games.

i recently played a bit of illusion games, older and newer ones, and realized how much the various interactions tend to disappear throughout time.

Graphics are evolving, models look great and lighting and animations look better than ever, but the gameplay element? they just seem to go extinct...

Try to picture it that way :
what is a FPS game about? what is a platformer about? what is an action adventure game about?

in an FPS, you use weaponry to shoot your enemies and move on from point A to point B
in a platformer, your character has abilities that help you navigate the 2D or 3D world in a fluid and fun manner
in an action adventure game, you have a mix of game mechanics that help you navigate the world, it could be first person or third person, but what matters is the dose of action and exploration and the fluidity of interaction between your character and the world.

what is a porn game about? ...

If we look at most porn games nowadays, even the "successful" ones, you see these are mostly just a "insert game genre" with a bunch of intercourse animations in it.

you could for instance mod mass effect and add sexual intercourse in it, instead of the softcore content there already is, and it would literally be the best porn game on earth, you could do that with any games, just add a bunch of cool looking sex animation in it and make it the best porn game ever.

now about Wildlife :

i'm gonna say there are two things i really like about it :

The character models are really pretty, i really like the semi realistic look they went for.
Flying with maya feels fun and fluid.

now for the things i dislike :

the map looks like any unreal model pack put together
the level design is very amateurish and doesn't feel right in most spaces (especially the village)
the 3C (character, control, camera) is garbage (except for maya's flying control).
it's very hardware heavy for not much visual outcome (again, characters look great, but that's all there is)

and on top of that, the worst offender, the sexual intercourse, have not been thought out as a gameplay element, they are just here for show, and even if most animations look cool, they are useless, and it doesn't feel like there will be any changes to that in the future, if that was the case, it would already be in a rough state after all that time.

i'm not criticizing only Wildlife, but mostly complaining about a lack of vision from most porn game devs, they all want to create their own little game, and that's great, but at the end of the day, this won't be a good exploration/action/rpg game, it's gonna be a very mediocre one, with porn added to it.

If we use the FPS example again, if that was developed with the same state of mind, you'd have a game where you look at people shooting each others with cool looking animations loop, with the possibility to orbit around, vary the speed and change their positions... doesn't sound very fun to me...
When backers or players would start complaining about the lack of gameplay content, the devs would answer with addition of new character models, new animations, but zero shooting gameplay...

So... it's a bit of a stretch, but i'd love if nintendo themselves made porn games XD
If porn devs had the same state of mind nintendo has, you'd have a porn game where the intercourse is actually interactive, with fun twists to it, like the challenge to not cum too fast, the challenge to please your partner, different mechanics to make it a really appealing moment with different surprises and a constant questioning of "how to achieve something"

I personally which one day to come up with my own game, and the main goal is going to be just that, make it an interesting interactive experience, not just a glorified slideshow
I miss the times of AGA i wish illusion would transfer back to their roots then we would have the best porn games, Wild-Life remembers me a lot of these Times. :)

But i think knowledge gets lost sometimes and some decisions made doesn't improve things in the long run but some day the time comes and it moves back :)

But you have to see it also this way Tripple A Game productions has become mighty expensive what you see in terms of asset repetitiveness is a result of it, but if you creative you can even avoid that "Artisticly Meshing up".
The Wild-Life Team tries it hard and bringing in their own ideas.

Story Driven Adult Games like the old Adult Cinema im not sure, though what the younger generation doesn't know this way anymore might have a chance to fascinate them again :)
Currently their most fascination is in Hentai/Anime and i feel we did something wrong that it has come this way that artificialness has become ultimate beauty for them.

And Mass Effect showed that people are interested in seeing Core Relations of Characters and how they play out and with SEX you can heighten this if done right and it would be meaningful.
 
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nativegypsy

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Sorry in advance for the long incoming post XD



I haven't been posting in the forums yet, but that bit made me want to participate in the conversation.

Even though they are probably developing quest lines and dialogue based interaction, i still feel like there is one really big thing lacking in that game, just like in many other porn games.

i recently played a bit of illusion games, older and newer ones, and realized how much the various interactions tend to disappear throughout time.

Graphics are evolving, models look great and lighting and animations look better than ever, but the gameplay element? they just seem to go extinct...

Try to picture it that way :
what is a FPS game about? what is a platformer about? what is an action adventure game about?

in an FPS, you use weaponry to shoot your enemies and move on from point A to point B
in a platformer, your character has abilities that help you navigate the 2D or 3D world in a fluid and fun manner
in an action adventure game, you have a mix of game mechanics that help you navigate the world, it could be first person or third person, but what matters is the dose of action and exploration and the fluidity of interaction between your character and the world.

what is a porn game about? ...

If we look at most porn games nowadays, even the "successful" ones, you see these are mostly just a "insert game genre" with a bunch of intercourse animations in it.

you could for instance mod mass effect and add sexual intercourse in it, instead of the softcore content there already is, and it would literally be the best porn game on earth, you could do that with any games, just add a bunch of cool looking sex animation in it and make it the best porn game ever.

now about Wildlife :

i'm gonna say there are two things i really like about it :

The character models are really pretty, i really like the semi realistic look they went for.
Flying with maya feels fun and fluid.

now for the things i dislike :

the map looks like any unreal model pack put together
the level design is very amateurish and doesn't feel right in most spaces (especially the village)
the 3C (character, control, camera) is garbage (except for maya's flying control).
it's very hardware heavy for not much visual outcome (again, characters look great, but that's all there is)

and on top of that, the worst offender, the sexual intercourse, have not been thought out as a gameplay element, they are just here for show, and even if most animations look cool, they are useless, and it doesn't feel like there will be any changes to that in the future, if that was the case, it would already be in a rough state after all that time.

i'm not criticizing only Wildlife, but mostly complaining about a lack of vision from most porn game devs, they all want to create their own little game, and that's great, but at the end of the day, this won't be a good exploration/action/rpg game, it's gonna be a very mediocre one, with porn added to it.

If we use the FPS example again, if that was developed with the same state of mind, you'd have a game where you look at people shooting each others with cool looking animations loop, with the possibility to orbit around, vary the speed and change their positions... doesn't sound very fun to me...
When backers or players would start complaining about the lack of gameplay content, the devs would answer with addition of new character models, new animations, but zero shooting gameplay...

So... it's a bit of a stretch, but i'd love if nintendo themselves made porn games XD
If porn devs had the same state of mind nintendo has, you'd have a porn game where the intercourse is actually interactive, with fun twists to it, like the challenge to not cum too fast, the challenge to please your partner, different mechanics to make it a really appealing moment with different surprises and a constant questioning of "how to achieve something"

I personally which one day to come up with my own game, and the main goal is going to be just that, make it an interesting interactive experience, not just a glorified slideshow
It's usually western devs who can't make a "good" game. Go play Succubus Affection. It's a solid platformer that uses fuggs as a way to gain new abilities and stats.
 

roppen.vbush

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every page its the same fucking posts. "wahhh wahh why isn't the game done yet? its just a gallery wahhhh"

shut up and download. if you aren't even paying for it why even complain? complaining on this forum isn't going to suddenly get the developers to make the story
 

nativegypsy

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every page its the same fucking posts. "wahhh wahh why isn't the game done yet? its just a gallery wahhhh"

shut up and download. if you aren't even paying for it why even complain? complaining on this forum isn't going to suddenly get the developers to make the story
Its called sensationalism. You got people on one side screaming it won't get done (me) and people who're rooting for it to finish (you). The longer this project goes, the bigger the funds, the larger the crowd. My question is howblong it'll be until the dev cracks and runs with the money. Or maybe he'll turn into another Sean Murray, telling his employees to keep on working despite the controversy.
 

marmaduke

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My question is howblong it'll be until the dev cracks and runs with the money
How does one run with an entire studio of 16 fulltime employees, a registered company, an office building in germany and a bunch of youtube videos that show your face and full name?

Right, you dont. These people cant make it much more clear that they are here to stay so stop placing these dumb assumptions that fit pretty much every other dev but this one.
 

Krosos

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marmaduke
Yes they 're more legit then others but that doesn't protect you from failing your Goals eventually it is about decisions, some wrong decisions and it could be over it is a lot of pressure for the Lead and a balancing act until the day of shipping and endless party knowing you survived it your Vision is finally out people love it and you have your core work setup for the next Goals and can improve them further :D
Scammsters Generally have no real Vision in any Form their only Vision is to finalize something as fast as possible to throw it out.
You rarely find a Scammster on a complex 3D project but you find sometimes very extreme Goals where you know very fast the Person behind this will not make it.
 
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every page its the same fucking posts. "wahhh wahh why isn't the game done yet? its just a gallery wahhhh"

shut up and download. if you aren't even paying for it why even complain? complaining on this forum isn't going to suddenly get the developers to make the story
Don't forget about the "i get xinput1_4.dll error how i fix?" posts.

Plenty of those too.
 

Vermine

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every page its the same fucking posts. "wahhh wahh why isn't the game done yet? its just a gallery wahhhh"

shut up and download. if you aren't even paying for it why even complain? complaining on this forum isn't going to suddenly get the developers to make the story
personally i just wanted to kind of open a conversation about this topic, but maybe i should have done it in another thread.

Sorry about that

My point wasn't to simply criticize a game for the pleasure of it, mostly to point out things that would bring one game from okay to actually amazing in its own little bubble
 
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vncd

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I keep getting this crash error:

Code:
lowlevefatalerror [file:unknown][line:1155]

gamethread time out waiting for renderthread after 120.00 secs
How can I fix this?

And the latest version crashes so bad I can't even close it, had to restart my PC and revert to the previous one
 
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Personally, I'm fine with the game being a gallery, the sex animations are absolutely perfect, I mean how many times can you milk a story in a game like this before you start spamming keys to skip cutscenes and getting annoyed at repetitive content you already played before, I'm fine with wild life being a competitor to honey select type games, more animations and more customizing is all I care about.
 
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