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Cant say Superman fucking Supergirl is vanilla hehe. They're cousins.
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Short Summary: Devs are making the single player story. They want ideas from players. Now is a good time to sub to their patreon and leave feedback based on what kinks you're into, and what you envision from the story when playing Max or Maya.
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I hope they made it a choices story tbh, I dunno from everything you listed what makes me be against is "Cuckolding", and "netorare". Not to kink shame of course but I find hurting other people's feelings problematic, and so it doesn't turn me on.
I mean I am a woman and I don't like it, I prefer foursome, like sharing couples, no one is getting hurt and its also dirty. I hope they have this on their story.
I also I agree with exter, the direction the games goes, has potential to surpass Klub17, Honey select etc.
I hope and wish for the best for the game.
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YES that's what I want, to make my own stories, I dunno I always liked these creative games like Klub17 and Honey select.
Be careful man, I'm sure that you're aware of this but Patreon monitors what content creators are doing and saying outside of Patreon as well. This might as well be interpreted by their Trust & Safety Team ™ that you intend to bend the rules somewhat. Content creators have gotten into trouble for less - I doubt that Patreon actually observes this site but this kind of paranoia is not entirely unjustified.
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I love masochism and/or sadism. But, I also like swinging couples who have mutual respect for each other; like in the game adventurous couple; no one's feeling being hurt, etc. So if you subbed to their patreon and left feedback in their discord, and that's something that interested the devs, I would like and upvote your idea with the emojii's.
Do you want to see Max & Maya be a couple, and get into swinging or something similar? Forgive me for being curious, I just enjoy talking about this stuff, hah!
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Will Rawn share animations with a new model down the line? That's one of the furry characters with the most animations, but it doesn't share it with anyone, I think it would be cool to have a character of a different species that share animations with Rawn.
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I mean, I dont like "cuckolding" personally, cause one person gets hurt. I dont want my partner to feel less of himself/herself (I am BI).
So instead I prefer if my partner is interested on this to share each other with other couple, since thats what they like. I was personally in a relationship with a guy who wanted me to go with other men, but that actually turned me off personally cause he was very insecure about himself, but also because "Cuckolding" relationships believe it or not are very abusive relationships (and its not the one cheating who is the abusive, like the popular belief does), and I don't like it at all. So instead if my partner is into sharing me with other people, I instead encourage swinging so no one gets hurt, although I am not into swinging very hard. I am very mutual respect person.
I dont ship Max and Maya so hard, although I ship them, I ship Max x Shey mostly instead, or Max x Jadeen. Thats just my personal preference of course. Or Tommas x Shey, Tommas x Jadeen since he shares Max animations, and he is also very attractive if not more as Max.
I'm all for that idea. As long as you add their animations as well.
In fact, I don't think you need more than 3 skeletons for men (Max, Sethro, Bol) and 2 for women (Maya, Shey) - just attach separate face models, and use a base body whose appearance is based on slider settings. Get the chest, waist, hips, butt, and thighs to go from a skinny, flat chest and butt to a bubble-butt, pork-belly, "serious back problems" type female. That way we could have a Maya model that looks like a shorter Shey type (HEL-LOOOO Michelle Rodriguez! *drool*
), a Shey that could be a tall, thin runway model, and a Mercer I would actually want to see naked. On the Sethro skeleton, you could have Corman on one end of the slider selection and Iljah on the other end, and all combos in between.If possible, I humbly suggest that you make the head models a separate piece that works with all bodies of each gender. So you could, say, put Max's head on Bol's body and get a ex-farmboy machine-gunner character.
This way, you guys wouldn't have to spend so much in resources to make completely new models and the animations to go with them. Just design a new face model, slap it onto the skeletons and fiddle around with the sliders until you have a default body. It would also make hair models more easier to adjust (of course, you could put sliders on those too, to adjust for head shapes). You would probably have easier clothing issues as well.
Just a thought.
Don't see any reasons, why "vanilla" should be boring. We have tribal setting where harems are pretty vanilla, for example.
We have furries, who might have their own opinions of vanilla, especially if they have heat periods.
So I'm asking - that missing girl found spending her quality time with doggo - is it vanilla?
And what if that doggo wll be futa instead? Is it vanilla?
And what if MC could actually join them? Is is still too vanilla for ya?
What if girl who asked MC to find them is like "Hmm, that damn doggo again! You know, how about you take this lube and find out how deep is doggo hole is?"
And i'm not even start to fuel my imagination on full power. And i'm not even started to break lore - all i said is already possible wthin game setting and it would not break the story.
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What I want to say to all of u wanting some controversary shi... themes like netorare, cucks, etc. There is some rules in gamedesign. One rule says about moodbreakers. Mood breaker is shit wich breaks the mood.(quite unexpected, no?)
For our beach pair it can be like:
- Find my sexy girlfriend! (player like oh, I'm expecting something hot already)
- oh, my, she is humping the doggo again! (player - oh, yeah, and it is kinda hot! )
-you know what, you should join them, my frieng like some oral action... (player - oh, man, it is getting even hotter!)
-... and when mi girlfriend start to climax ... (player - yeeeees?)
-... KILL THEM BOTH WITH THIS KNIFE! (player - WHAT THE F?!)
And that things cam break ANY story of ANY game. And it especially dangerous for adult gaming, coz that games is about creating the right mood. With most of the audience hating that kind things problem is - how to separate that audience.
You can implement shitload of flags, so users could switch those type scenes on and off, but is a whole ton of extra work. It is wiser just to avoid that - especially with this mighty sandbox editor.
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To summarize this tons of text - do not break the mood. Some advirtizing to increase numbers of patrons may be good, but breaking the mood - is definitely bad.
We have furries, who might have their own opinions of vanilla, especially if they have heat periods.
So I'm asking - that missing girl found spending her quality time with doggo - is it vanilla?
And what if that doggo wll be futa instead? Is it vanilla?
And what if MC could actually join them? Is is still too vanilla for ya?
What if girl who asked MC to find them is like "Hmm, that damn doggo again! You know, how about you take this lube and find out how deep is doggo hole is?"
And i'm not even start to fuel my imagination on full power. And i'm not even started to break lore - all i said is already possible wthin game setting and it would not break the story.
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What I want to say to all of u wanting some controversary shi... themes like netorare, cucks, etc. There is some rules in gamedesign. One rule says about moodbreakers. Mood breaker is shit wich breaks the mood.(quite unexpected, no?)
For our beach pair it can be like:
- Find my sexy girlfriend! (player like oh, I'm expecting something hot already)
- oh, my, she is humping the doggo again! (player - oh, yeah, and it is kinda hot! )
-you know what, you should join them, my frieng like some oral action... (player - oh, man, it is getting even hotter!)
-... and when mi girlfriend start to climax ... (player - yeeeees?)
-... KILL THEM BOTH WITH THIS KNIFE! (player - WHAT THE F?!)
And that things cam break ANY story of ANY game. And it especially dangerous for adult gaming, coz that games is about creating the right mood. With most of the audience hating that kind things problem is - how to separate that audience.
You can implement shitload of flags, so users could switch those type scenes on and off, but is a whole ton of extra work. It is wiser just to avoid that - especially with this mighty sandbox editor.
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To summarize this tons of text - do not break the mood. Some advirtizing to increase numbers of patrons may be good, but breaking the mood - is definitely bad.
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You don't know how refreshing it is to see someone bring up the importance of preserving erotic mood, erotic pacing, erotic momentum. That's why I love this forum. Their discord doesn't have enough people with your point of view. Most of them have never played any porn games, except for Carnal Instinct. When I ask people in the discord, "What porn games have you played?", they don't know how to respond, and instead bring up how they modded their Skyrim or Fallout; which is totally cool btw, but the ones who do talk in discord don't have the common F95zone user perspective, and I think that's BAD. So the developers are getting feedback from players who haven't really played a lot of porn games. For the record, Adeptus Steve is very, VERY WISE to come check things on this forum, he gets so much respect for that!
I agree with what you said. Presenting dialogue choices and options does not break the mood, instead it works to preserve the mood by allowing the player to seek what they want, but like you said, it's A LOT of work.
Here is their current RAW quest dialogue model. (In no way am I implying this is final. It's not, it's Adeptus Steve's rough draft model. My guess is that it's what came out naturally, as he tapped into his creativity, but he also approach is from business standpoint. If you guys sub to his Patreon, you can leave quest ideas as feedback! He wants that kind of information.) It goes something like this, it's simple, but effective:
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Current Raw Model - Figure A
- Is player interested in this sex scenario?
1) Yes.
2) Yes, but they want another NPC to do the sex.
3) No
Player goes from quest to quest, if they're into it, they accept and/or optionally choose another npc to do the sex, if not they move on.
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Alternate Model - Figure B
- Is player interested in this sex scenario?
1) Yes.
2) Yes, but they want another NPC to do the sex.
3) No.
4) Option that contrasts the tone of the quest. This option can be the most kinkiest, darkest things that Adeptus Steve is into, but without breaking any companies TOS; 100% consensual and legal. This option can be interpreted as the opposite of whatever content the quest presents. E.g If the quest is evil in nature, this option becomes the light path. If the quest is light hearted, this option becomes the evil route. This option doesn't always have to be present.
EDIT: Maybe this 4th option is actually just another quest, that contrasts this quest. So there isn't a fourth option, unless it's purpose is to enable a new quest that presents an evil path?I would type this in their discord, but I don't want to be rude or impolite. I hate being the only guy in there that talks about this stuff. I'm also no expert, I just leave feedback based on what I learned. You guys have TONS of experience with games on f95zone, IMO, their discord needs your perspective.
I hope Adeptus Steve reads the following:
CREATING MAYA ROLEPLAYS - Learning from mistakes and or good aspects of other porn games
I strongly recommend checking out other porn games on here featuring a female protagonist on the path of corruption: https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=103,392/sort=likes - This gives you a list of all porn games based on : MOST LIKES(Popularity) / Female Protagonist / Corruption
- Third Crisis (TAVERN MINI GAME) featuring a protagonist similar to Cinderella;Cinder. The main girl loses her position of power and has to cater to the whims of base and disgusting men to find her girlfriend.
- Kingdom of Deception - Sabia takes jobs at a Tavern and Brothel, she used to be in a position of power as a General. Maya is also in a position of power; the daughter of a Great Chief? I wonder if Maya loses that power, and ends up in a situation where she's at whims of disgusting, assholish men.
- Karryn's Prison - Karryn is in a position of power, she works as a Warden of a prison full of the most disgusting and base men and creatures. The Prison ends up having a TAVERN and she works in it, it's a crazy concept that works very well.
Each one of the above games has a Tavern mini game or setting which is VERY erotic. Adeptus Steve has been doing a lot of Tavern stuff in discord. Checking out the above games would give a lot of inspiration, insight, and you could learn from the mistakes made from these games, or gain inspiration from the stuff they do well.
Anything Adeptus makes will be ten times better than anything on here, due to Wild Life having TripleA quality. Even though I'm a sick bastard, I actually enjoyed the Demo A LOT, and the Demo was fairly vanilla; if you don't count the animal genitalia, lol.
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All I have to say regarding the story is that I find the current concept of the Kerpali as native born humans who have been infected with a lycanthropic disease to be way more interesting than if they were just aliens. I particularly liked the conversation the player has with the tiger woman in the demo, along with having her do something really interesting and unique to her “species” (clawing at a scratching post). I hope you keep exploring that concept with the other Kerpali characters. Maybe even have some of them feel conflicted about their condition and try to seek a cure, while others go the obvious Avatar route and try to fight the mercenary occupiers.
Quests should focus on world building. If the player is asked to do a mundane task, it should introduce a cool element of the world and lead into a greater conflict. For example, fetching water for a village because there’s a terrible drought, only to come across a greedy merchant who is hoarding all the water and making things worse. The player can choose to work for the merchant or unite with the village against him. And of course you can also fuck him, because this is a porn game.
Quests should focus on world building. If the player is asked to do a mundane task, it should introduce a cool element of the world and lead into a greater conflict. For example, fetching water for a village because there’s a terrible drought, only to come across a greedy merchant who is hoarding all the water and making things worse. The player can choose to work for the merchant or unite with the village against him. And of course you can also fuck him, because this is a porn game.
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About Adeptus being here reading some of our supersmartass ideas is definitely +10 in respect stat. Being close to your community is still the best way to know what that community wants. Anoter +10 - for participating and making comments.
I saw some number of autors, who thouth so high bout their projects that they took every opportunity to come and cry and throw tantrums with any mentioning of their games in every site that provide "no-paid downloads", if u know what i mean.
Even the most reasonable requests was thrown away with threats nd cries about piracy and so on and so forth.
I dont think I need to tell about how those projects ended. So if the author willing to listen to his audiency - I wish him the best results in his work.
Now about quest options. You see, if the quest has "yes-no-not interested" scenario - it is good, bot only for a short time.
If you have 10 quests like that, you would be bored to even start them. From player point of view it would be like:
NPC1: wanna fuck? y/n
NPC2: wanna fuck? y/n
NPC3: wanna fuck? y/n
NPC4: wanna fuck? y/n
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VEEEEERY interesting, yes?
About darkest things they are into - its still complicated. Any moodbreakers should be avoided in overall plot, but kinks are okay. Fortunately, it is not yesterday when adult industry was born, so majority of mood brakers are well known.
Murder, dismemberment, heavy drama, and all that is creating dark and heavy emotions.
Buuut there is one tiny yet significant detail. Inspiration. If creator is really into something - he will create masterpiece. So if there is any preferences of author, that is in fact a mood breaker kink - it is good to make it, it just dont have to added in main plot - as a sandbox scenario maybe? Or maybe some on/off options in settings, but is is way harder.
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I may not be able to play now becasue of the recent performance issues, but I at least I have the superpower of in-depth story telling. I've been writing for over a decade. If you ever need a spare brain that is constantly generating small to highly expansive stories that drive conflict, tension, and missions, character backstories and development arch's, main plots points and plot arch's, or compelling dialogue, message me anytime. I can also draw up entire drafts for scenes and settings that would be uniquely organic and keep the player engaged for hours on end. I can make you stories that can drive game-play, romance, vanilla sex, dark Cuck/NTR stuff, ect, ect. I can write some quality stuff for you.
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What if its like Skyrim? Skyrim also has the same gameplay, you choose who to help and who to be friends with but people still play Skyrim. They dont get bored easily, its just basic RPG if not every game ever.
Every game ever has quests and missions that everyone probably hates, however RPG its different, its YOUR choice to do the mission, its not like GTA.