ChaosMarilith

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We still get plenty of hate even tho its almost entirely contained within this thread. Among many other reasons, I assume its from people who havent made any effort to familiarize themselves with our project and know nothing of the recent developments. At some point something rubbed them the wrong way and the hate has since prevented them from seeing our progress now.
Steve my feedback is more Bol sex animations please even if they're ports of other pairings. He has no couch animations too.
 

Fzeren

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... But again, I ain't invested AT ALL. They all have a right to be a bit ticked off, unless they donated for the animations.
Who is this ticked off "they"? The pirates on this forum who do not support the project?

It's almost as if the devs prioritize the erotic parts of the game due to that being what the patrons are primarily interested in...
 

12345stat

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What's wrong with the sound in this game? Two sighs in 9 years of development, animations are boring as hell. You do everything but the sounds, so it all looks cheap and crappy.
 

Merlo Games

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Thanks Adeptus, here's some stuff missing from sandbox that makes content creation a bit sloppy.
  • Hairstyles: you could just import from KS Hairdos (dudes modding Skyrim) like other devs. Those have been easily ported to many games. And they got lots of variety.
  • Characters without "Posses Button": I mean NPCs just walking around; without the "Posses" button hovering above their head. why is it useful? Immersion; filling the map with a crowd that you can't interact with in any way.
  • Animation variety: Animation for other characters; as others on this thread have pointed out, so far it's mostly focused on a few models.
  • Enemies for sandbox: I know that's a tough ask, but ppl need something to kill man. It can't be all fun and sex all the time. WE NEED SOMETHING TO KILL :mad::LOL:
obviously these are just suggestions, otherwise I appreciate your work on sandbox.
 
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SpicyHotBeef

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I'm pretty happy with it as just a collection of animations tbh. They're good.

Glad I didn't give it any money tho lmao.

Frankly I don't care about the game. I'd like them to just optimize what they can and work on the sandbox more.

Sure, it doesn't compare as favorably to others, so might as well improve it.

... But again, I ain't invested AT ALL. They all have a right to be a bit ticked off, unless they donated for the animations.
Same. Hundreds of animations for an erotic game is good. 1 or 3 sexual interactions with a character and you can't even control the speed or the camera just plain sucks. And props to Steve for getting that even with the earliest builds.

I'd say it's better than a released porn game set in space and it just "promised" good porno. I'd say WL's scope sure is big but at the very least, the devs are constantly putting out updates. I'm guessing it's pretty hard to apply bandaid to very technical stuff that is unreal engine.

That said, sandbox is showing some promise and community involvement is really good where you can create your own, but it does need work like dumbing things down a bit more--like, virtamate (mentioned here, so i thought including it would be okay) but loaded with a lot of plugins for QoL, like auto thrusting and stuff.

Alright. I get that this is a cycle for every update and every coomer here really hates WL so much that we still ask for updates, so, see you on the next.
 

T4t0rt

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And for the ones that are shitstorming:

Can i remind you all that we are on F95, a site that doesn't have exactly a good reputation between authors and real patrons?

So, instead of shitstorming because you're getting for free a paid content, just..... think about it twice.

Just for say it.
 

Nicknone

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Why the fuck some people here continue sayin' "sandbox" "sandbox game" "sandbox mode" OMG... It is not sandbox, PLEASE STOP! There is a "playable" studio for creating scenes.
 
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Purple_Heart

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Who is this ticked off "they"? The pirates on this forum who do not support the project?

It's almost as if the devs prioritize the erotic parts of the game due to that being what the patrons are primarily interested in...
I don't understand why this simple logic is so hard for some people to grasp. The issue isn't about animations or sandbox features, it's about a promise made and never fulfilled. The developer has been collecting support for nearly nine years since their first post on Patreon, all based on the promise of delivering an open-world adult RPG. And yet, after all this time, they're still nowhere near that goal.

Whether someone personally funded the project or not is irrelevant. What matters is the deception, they could have simply said from the beginning, "We're making a sandbox and scene creator, nothing more", and that would've been perfectly fine. But they didn't. They promised one thing and delivered another, and that should be a major red flag to everyone.
 

DreamingAway

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The result? When have we said we are finished? Thats wishful thinking by a bunch of delulus in here who just want us to "FINSH THE GAME RIGHT FUCKING NOW" as if the remaining shit left to do is just sitting on our shelves just waiting for us to click the "finish game" button. Thats a level of willful misinformation I see no point in dealing with.
I think the criticism stems from the fact that you have essentially remade the game 3(4?) times, you keep trying new ideas which means any progress you previously made is throw-away instead of iterated on. This gives the impression your not building up to anything and it ~feels~ like you're unsure what you are even making anymore - but of course - none of that is stopping you from collecting your patreon every month - from my perspective - It seems like you just expect people to fund your forever-prototyping development process and never criticize anything, as if you have optimized your workflows perfectly and anyone who challenges anything is just bad faith or too stupid to understand the complexities of Blueprint and Keyframing.


If I compare this to Carnal Instincts which is far from a completed experience, in the last two years they have gone from what your game used to be (an empty open world of sex scene finding) to a fully fleshed out story with quests / voice acting. It's still a very shallow experience but I can at least see a vision being acted on.



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The whole "we aren't finished yet" argument loses a lot of it's value when your development process is being funded by crowd sourcing (your customers) and "we aren't finished yet" is actually a proxy for "we never keep our deadlines, we have no consistent road map, we constantly change direction and we expect you to fund this process forever"
 
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TheMathmos

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I think the criticism stems from the fact that you have essentially remade the game 3(4?) times, you keep trying new ideas which means any progress you previously made is throw-away instead of iterated on. This gives the impression your not building up to anything and it ~feels~ like you're unsure what you are even making anymore - but of course - none of that is stopping you from collecting your patreon every month - from my perspective - It seems like you just expect people to fund your forever-prototyping development process and never criticize anything, as if you have optimized your workflows perfectly and anyone who challenges anything is just bad faith or too stupid to understand the complexities of Blueprint and Keyframing.


If I compare this to Carnal Instincts which is far from a completed experience, in the last two years they have gone from what your game used to be (an empty open world of sex scene finding) to a fully fleshed out story with quests / voice acting. It's still a very shallow experience but I can at least see a vision being acted on.



EDIT:
The whole "we aren't finished yet" argument loses a lot of it's value when your development process is being funded by crowd sourcing (your customers) and "we aren't finished yet" is actually a proxy for "we never keep our deadlines, we have no consistent road map, we constantly change direction and we expect you to fund this process forever"
This post belongs in the Louvre. Thanks for encapsulating the dynamic with so many crowdfunded projects around here.
 

htakara82

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just came to see if the game has completed yet and uh... well didn't expect to find drama about it not being completed lol
 

meatslinger

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Why the fuck some people here continue sayin' "sandbox" "sandbox game" "sandbox mode" OMG... It is not sandbox, PLEASE STOP! There is a "playable" studio for creating scenes.
Yes, that's called a "sandbox" in most games: a studio in which you can play with the game's assets without playing the game's primary story/environment.
 

jpaul1

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what i see it's that the game has 10k+ patrons right now. and i checked a few day ago it was still under 10k. which is quite huge for a porn game. knowing that you can cancel a patreon anytime, apparently lot of people appreciate the actual sandbox. maybe the deceived first hour patrons may accept that the sandbox is very popular
 

Purple_Heart

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what i see it's that the game has 10k+ patrons right now. and i checked a few day ago it was still under 10k. which is quite huge for a porn game. knowing that you can cancel a patreon anytime, apparently lot of people appreciate the actual sandbox. maybe the deceived first hour patrons may accept that the sandbox is very popular
"Deceiving others for financial gain is considered acceptable, so long as the deceiver has enough people backing them."
 

mrtalliban

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IMHO I don't really GAF about the story, I'm 99.9% a sandbox player. I love creating my own little custom scenes.
The only thing I would wish, that it would be easier to do so. ATM It's kind of a chore building logic / writing LUA to make cool scenes. More streamlined tools are needed.
Keep making more Scenes, Maps , Characters, Props. Unreal updates to make thing look even better. Unreal 5.6 is soon out btw with major improvements. Keep Improving the Sandbox at all costs.

Also it would be great if we could create NPC routines to make our Sandbox creations more alive. For example it would be fun if two NPCs would be able to start randomly screwing ..

Just my two cents.
 
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