AdeptusSteve

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Criticism - when someone tells you what they think you can objectively do better. They're trying to help you improve, providing you with some form of explanation and sometimes even possible solutions based on their experience.

Complaining - when someone talks about things they don't subjectively like or are unhappy about. They're not really trying to help you improve, they're just saying what's bothering them. Often times making demands or even threats.

Both of these are welcome as long as there's a purpose or a good reason. Yes, even complaints are valid if they're fully justified. The problem is I don't see a lot of justified complaints here because they come from people who are disconnected from patreon and discord wild life communites. Therefore, missing a lot of important information that addresses those complaints and provides at least an explanation for it. In fact, there may just be a planned solution up ahead. Would be nice if there was more of a connection between this forums community and the original wild life community at the source, so to speak.
And I think this is where users like yourself are so important. You really did a lot of good connecting the communities and I like that a lot. Its something I endorse as it helps combat the issues you mentioned.
 

RubyZeronyka

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Criticism - when someone tells you what they think you can objectively do better. They're trying to help you improve, providing you with some form of explanation and sometimes even possible solutions based on their experience.

Complaining - when someone talks about things they don't subjectively like or are unhappy about. They're not really trying to help you improve, they're just saying what's bothering them. Often times making demands or even threats.

Both of these are welcome as long as there's a purpose or a good reason. Yes, even complaints are valid if they're fully justified. The problem is I don't see a lot of justified complaints here because they come from people who are disconnected from patreon and discord wild life communites. Therefore, missing a lot of important information that addresses those complaints and provides at least an explanation for it. In fact, there may just be a planned solution up ahead. Would be nice if there was more of a connection between this forums community and the original wild life community at the source, so to speak.
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One thing Ill say is that I wish that we could have the boob sliders on females to reach flat chest values, at least on futas, so we could create legit femboys. The current males are nice but they dont give me a femboy vibe even when set to look like one and that way we could have something alike.

But still I love the current futa content and Im always happy for moar :)
 

LjQujd

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By the way, some cool new stuff was added in Wild Sanctum..
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Opened a new section - Workshop - meant to provide some reference material for character posing.
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By the way, some cool new stuff was added in Wild Sanctum..
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Opened a new section - Workshop - meant to provide some reference material for character posing.
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Where can download it?
 

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By the way, some cool new stuff was added in Wild Sanctum..
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Opened a new section - Workshop - meant to provide some reference material for character posing.
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hey, this is really good! (we are loving it) incorporating everything into our sandbox folders and play'n' have fun messing around with those files, poses, new scenarios, customized characters, etc (y)
 

AraKnus

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we are in complete countdown for april 23rd ~ 26th newest game client update release

(meanwhile testing this new sandbox animation game):


https://f95zone.to/threads/real-feel-ea-entropy-digital-entertainment.156396/

but coming back to Wildlife eventually,
i seriously do recommend to new players, gamers & testers, the following link to explorer , download, install & having fun with extra customizable material for the game, importing all of it into wildlife's sandbox folders properly:


https://f95zone.to/threads/wild-life-fan-art-presets-characters.136349/
 

Super_Nova-

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do we have a choice to rescale characters heights and other dynamics. like i want to increase the height of the goat man.
can i do it?
 

StreamSteam

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You're an idiot who completely missed the point. Then again you have what appears to be a One Piece character as your profile pic, so what can I really expect?
Complaining about pirates on a piracy forum and dislike Luffy who is the pirate king :FacePalm:. The fucking audacity. According to your logic, you have to throw money to the dev before you can say something against his product = In your worldview criticising should be behind paywall, glad you have no power.
 

ihatefleas

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I think people are just tired of the 'muh story, muh gameplay' goblins who pop up all the time but mostly shortly before or after a new update is dropped. Wild Life gives you a powerful sandbox that allows you to personally set up any kind of context you might want, from lovey dovey handholding sex for the sole purpose of procreation to a degenerate rape cave.

While I'd agree that gameplay and story can give much needed context, Wild Life is not a simple animation viewer due to the sandbox. Besides, the story and gameplay will probably be nothing spectacular. I expect nothing more than 'collect 5 space deer antlers to unlock a blowjob scene' and the general porn trope of 'In our society, sex is nothing special and that's why everyone is fucking everyone all the time, lol!'. Anything that would be more spicey is prohibited per the patreon guidelines. Also, what keeps the patreon bucks flowing are the high quality animations, not whatever story and gameplay they might cook up in the future.
 

ymrorrr

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While I'd agree that gameplay and story can give much needed context, Wild Life is not a simple animation viewer due to the sandbox. Besides, the story and gameplay will probably be nothing spectacular. I expect nothing more than 'collect 5 space deer antlers to unlock a blowjob scene' and the general porn trope of 'In our society, sex is nothing special and that's why everyone is fucking everyone all the time, lol!'. Anything that would be more spicey is prohibited per the patreon guidelines. Also, what keeps the patreon bucks flowing are the high quality animations, not whatever story and gameplay they might cook up in the future.
I disagree, I think/hope they have some interesting stories and situations planned for the actual game, otherwise why bother?
 

Vaman

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Complaining about pirates on a piracy forum and dislike Luffy who is the pirate king :FacePalm:. The fucking audacity. According to your logic, you have to throw money to the dev before you can say something against his product = In your worldview criticising should be behind paywall, glad you have no power.
It seems I am going to have to explain it. There is a great difference between complaining constantly without being constructive about it, by simply resorting to what I can simply call something that is more akin to shit-throwing, than actual valuable feedback. Not everyone is guilty of doing this, but I've seen it quite a few times on this thread. If people were serious about giving valuable feedback, then they know they can do it in better ways than merely insulting the devs, insulting the product and talking about how it's a cashgrab or something of that like. There is also a great disconnect between this forum (since it's a piracy forum) and the paying consumers, who probably have already submitted feedback to the devs through different channels, channels that people can probably access without being a paying customer, but they're not interested in that. I never claimed criticising should be behind a paywall, that is simply a strawman. What I did highlight was the audacity of people bitching so much on this forum about a game they haven't paid a single cent for.

Also yeah, One Piece is a shit anime.
 

StreamSteam

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It seems I am going to have to explain it. There is a great difference between complaining constantly without being constructive about it, by simply resorting to what I can simply call something that is more akin to shit-throwing, than actual valuable feedback. Not everyone is guilty of doing this, but I've seen it quite a few times on this thread. If people were serious about giving valuable feedback, then they know they can do it in better ways than merely insulting the devs, insulting the product and talking about how it's a cashgrab or something of that like. There is also a great disconnect between this forum (since it's a piracy forum) and the paying consumers, who probably have already submitted feedback to the devs through different channels, channels that people can probably access without being a paying customer, but they're not interested in that. I never claimed criticising should be behind a paywall, that is simply a strawman. What I did highlight was the audacity of people bitching so much on this forum about a game they haven't paid a single cent for.
Steve is a great dev he streams here and there, makes a lot of progress reports, is transparent in general sure some people are pissed that there is not enough story after such a long development time which is a legitimate criticism but it's somewhere understandable afterall his team is more focused on animations which this game have the most and the best of all h games i know of, if i understood the progress correctly they will now deepen more into the story aspect of the game.
Surely there are also paying supporters among us.
Even some of his dev team are "lurking" here sometimes answering questions..
Wouldn't make sense to support something if you're upset about it, right ? so its perfectly normal that if someone is angry about his work, that someone is not a supporter... some of the complainers are ex patrons that send him money in the past but decided to cancel donations because they wasn't satisfied with something don't ask me what i only can imagine it's the story thing because all other content is superb (for me atleast)
Of course, only dull insults are not really to be taken seriously except for people like Icstor which doesn't even deserve constructive criticism anymore.

However, if you mean that Steve doesn't owe the freeloaders anything, sure, nevertheless can't shake the feeling that it doesn't completely affect him

Also yeah, One Piece is a shit anime.
Wait did you send money to Eiichiro Oda before complaining about his work ? :geek:
 
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Super_Nova-

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Yes, but premade animations will not function, you'd have to either painstakingly create your own, or simply use the character for posing.
Thanks for Replying back, i was expecting my massage to be buried under these endless Arguments.
Thanks for the help. (y)
this place is a mess right now, if i can DM you to seek some suggestions?
i wont be a pain in your ass.
 

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Complaining about pirates on a piracy forum and dislike Luffy who is the pirate king :FacePalm:. The fucking audacity. According to your logic, you have to throw money to the dev before you can say something against his product = In your worldview criticising should be behind paywall, glad you have no power.

Are you planning to stop this Endless conversation... "ARGUMENT" i'd rather say.
 

Vaman

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I'm going to make this very simple, there is a great difference between complaining and criticising. While Steve and others from his organizations might come here and show professionalism, that doesn't mean I need to share it. They very likely know there might be indications from a large subset of complaints, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily the most constructive and likely takes more ressources and effort to construct into something that is valuable for them. Now I as a person can claim that you're not a stakeholder, you might be a possible consumer they can gain through this forum, but you're not one (as far as I know you're not a patreon anyway). They've gone to great effort to still attempt to gather data from this piracy forum, even if it's filled by a lot of complaints. Now complaints are indicative of the reception of a product, your patronizing comment came close to what I am hinting at, by complaining you put more of the focus on your feelings about something, rather than providing feedback on the product itself. I will say that the focus on animations rather than story is valuable, as it's a real criticism towards the product, but I also know that you have to wade through a lot of shit to get to that sort of comment in this thread. I hope my original post makes sense to you now as you know now which viewpoint I have. Lets end this argument here, as there is no point in talking about this further.
 
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