Deathdawg

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Ugg hate this rng dice crap in these types of games and seeing as can not even edit saves ... pass
 

jeff100

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Ok so let's break it down:
  1. Explanation of math formulas in game that isn't that well explained? Check.
  2. Not understanding the explanation affects your gameplay? Check.
  3. Formulas are heavily stacked against you the player? Check.
  4. The result of point 3) makes it so you fail at almost every interaction you have? Check.
  5. Crap random number generators? Check.
  6. Potential to be a good or even a great game ruined by stupid shit like the points above? Check.
  7. Good renders that you wish you could see but you can't because of everything above? Check.
  8. No way to cheat with cheat engine? Check.
  9. No way to edit saves? Check.
  10. Is the gameplay / game just plain annoying due to how little you can do without failing? Check.
  11. Is the game still worth playing after all of this? Uncheck.
TL;DR: Good renders, shit gameplay, annoying game, heavily based on luck / rng which are stacked against you and there's no clear way of progressing without spending an ungodly amount of time being completely frustrated by how little you can do.

Edit: Right after I posted this I realized I could use this for a review so I'll just use it for that as well
 

ouch2020

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After my previous post, I decided to give it a go again, and so it is... The idea is not bad, especially if you can capture also the other eroines, but...
1) If the lust is up, it makes no sense that when doing the "fights" she has the same resistance as normal;
2) When you have no mind control, it is ok that in the fight for the mind control her dice can go 1-100, but it makes no sense that when the mind control is up, so she has less resistance, her dices still go 1-100, if you have more mind control, it is because she is under your influence, so she has less resistance;
3) No matter what you do, if you get successful, you get 1% mind control, but it makes no sense, if you get tongue kissing is one thing, if you get her a full orgasm, should be another;
3) after the middle training becomes available, starts a big bug, if you do the easy training, even if you are successful, most often it does not even try to calculate whether there is a mind effect, and it justs throw you back to the choice menu, but without increasing the mind control (because he did not even try to do that check);
4) If you try to ambush the black widow, every time she escapes, she increases her stats, while the minions never do it, unless by chance they end up capturing her.

I am tempted to subscribe to his patreon only to give him a feedback, especially that point 2, for me is completly ruining it - but if it is 30 a month, that is too steep
 
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2) When you have no mind control, it is ok that in the fight for the mind control her dice can go 1-100, but it makes no sense that when the mind control is up, so she has less resistance, her dices still go 1-100, if you have more mind control, it is because she is under your influence, so she has less resistance;
This probably my only complaint. There should be some bonuses for a higher mind control and there's not.
 
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GrizzlyUK

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Anyone notice that when you have WW at any minus Anger, right before she gains Anger the minus amount resets to 0 for no apparent reason, but any plus Anger never seems to just reset to 0 like that. Maybe there's a reason for that, but I don't recall seeing any sort of explanation of that.

That's just one of way too many fails in this game. Sure, the renders are really nice, the animations are well done, but those are pretty much the only good points. What bonus do you get from increasing the Mind Control? None that I can see, I don't even see any actual reason for Mind Control other than being the determining factor on the final outcome of the game. You need to increase Mind Control high enough to "win" the game, but that's all it does, there's no other bonus or reason for the Mind Control.

Ah well, others have already done a better job at explaining what's wrong with this game. Some nice things but the actual implementation is flawed, to a point that any possible enjoyment is simply replaced with a whole lot of frustration at the constant fails in the supposedly "random" dice rolls. Simply put, there are better superheroine games available, but this one does show that rng dice rolls just don't belong in a porn game!
 

Groov

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My game stops when I receive mind points after training, it is impossible to go further, you can only load or exit the menu. But when I get a Poison Ivy Mind Point, everything is fine and the game continues. Is this a bug?
 
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Gunner Rey

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After my previous post, I decided to give it a go again, and so it is... The idea is not bad, especially if you can capture also the other eroines, but...
1) If the lust is up, it makes no sense that when doing the "fights" she has the same resistance as normal;
2) When you have no mind control, it is ok that in the fight for the mind control her dice can go 1-100, but it makes no sense that when the mind control is up, so she has less resistance, her dices still go 1-100, if you have more mind control, it is because she is under your influence, so she has less resistance;
3) No matter what you do, if you get successful, you get 1% mind control, but it makes no sense, if you get tongue kissing is one thing, if you get her a full orgasm, should be another;
3) after the middle training becomes available, starts a big bug, if you do the easy training, even if you are successful, most often it does not even try to calculate whether there is a mind effect, and it justs throw you back to the choice menu, but without increasing the mind control (because he did not even try to do that check);
4) If you try to ambush the black widow, every time she escapes, she increases her stats, while the minions never do it, unless by chance they end up capturing her.

I am tempted to subscribe to his patreon only to give him a feedback, especially that point 2, for me is completly ruining it - but if it is 30 a month, that is too steep
It's not that tough, it sounds like you're not taking advantage of all the opportunities to break her sooner. For one thing it's especially easy to savescum in this game if you want to cheat and even without that my first time through I managed to get to see all the material without a single cheat and several mistakes early on as I learned the system, and was well ahead of a pace to have her to 95% on the 100th day of training. Note that the renders shown on the advertisement screen that pops up intermittently are previews for 0.4 and as this is 0.3.5 those aren't available yet, so you can't yet see a DP with Catwoman or a gangbang party for the Princess Diana etc.

The aphrodisiac from Poison Ivy is one invaluable tool to making quick progress. Ten points added to lust with no anger essentially gives you a 50 percentage point bonus to get her to submit to the training, that's a huge advantage and one you should use often. As you noted, once you get to the next 'level' of training the previous ones no longer give mind control points and I don't think that's a bug but something designed to prevent it becoming too easy, as a simple strategy of giving her an aphrodisiac then succeeding with one of the better lust generators gives you about three or four good shots at getting mind control points per day, failures allowing you to punish her to get more cash for aphrodisiacs.

Once you get a chance at Black Widow make her your top priority as you can farm her pretty little ass all day long for more cash and lower her escape percentage to minimal, or just fuck her into submission at the end of each day. Eventually you'll have a pattern of whipping Diana at the start of the day to get rid of her overnight anger, give her an aphrodisiac and perhaps earn herself a 'discount' on the next one. It's easier to get lust points from the 'discount' if you give her the aphrodisiac before, as counter-intuitive as it may seem, but the lust bonus is worth far more than the $20 or so you might have saved doing it the other way round. Then train Diana a few times for the MC points until she masturbates away her lust and then go to Black Widow to try get more secrets/overfuck her into submission. If Widow starts creeping up in stats dedicate a whole day to breaking her back down again and farming more cash.

I think you're forgetting you get 100 days to get to 95% and you don't need to succeed every day, just get 2-3 points every other day and every so often, like when you get a lust bonus to begin due to your minion's overnight activities (have Harley 'masturbate' when they take a go at Diana) you'll have days where you get four or more mind control points. Especially near the end of the day try using the 50% shortcut methods as that doesn't always cause anger and sometimes it's negligible and you'll succeed easily anyway.

I think they've done a real good job developing a system that keeps it interesting all the way through as opposed to making it tough in the beginning but an eventual walkover.
 
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Gunner Rey

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Anyone notice that when you have WW at any minus Anger, right before she gains Anger the minus amount resets to 0 for no apparent reason, but any plus Anger never seems to just reset to 0 like that. Maybe there's a reason for that, but I don't recall seeing any sort of explanation of that.

That's just one of way too many fails in this game. Sure, the renders are really nice, the animations are well done, but those are pretty much the only good points. What bonus do you get from increasing the Mind Control? None that I can see, I don't even see any actual reason for Mind Control other than being the determining factor on the final outcome of the game. You need to increase Mind Control high enough to "win" the game, but that's all it does, there's no other bonus or reason for the Mind Control.

Ah well, others have already done a better job at explaining what's wrong with this game. Some nice things but the actual implementation is flawed, to a point that any possible enjoyment is simply replaced with a whole lot of frustration at the constant fails in the supposedly "random" dice rolls. Simply put, there are better superheroine games available, but this one does show that rng dice rolls just don't belong in a porn game!
Mind control points are what allow you to move from one 'level' to another, changing the background and allowing for more advanced training. Currently they're set at 25%, 50% and somewhere over 70% with 75% being the end of all the material in 0.3.5.

You're supposed to get frustrated when you fail, that makes punishing Diana to remove the anger that much more satisfying. You still have plenty of time to get the job done unless you play very poorly or get a highly improbable run of bad luck.
 

Alea iacta est

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When a developer hates his customers...these kind of games are coming out...

Very good.. but you can feel the hatred of the developer in stopping you enjoying a wank...
 

Gunner Rey

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When a developer hates his customers...these kind of games are coming out...

Very good.. but you can feel the hatred of the developer in stopping you enjoying a wank...
I don't think he hates his players at all, he gives you a naked slut to whip away your frustration on when you fail. I call that a win...
 
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