Honestly saw this coming from the start. Dude set up a ridiculous tempo of weekly/2 weekly upload, and they you get burned out, well no shit bro. I was literally pleading while saying make the updates one per month instead of 3/4 per month updates, and then we had a longer period of time with no update, and the keyboard warriors all spaming defending the dev, while now thoes same ppl are shiting on him.
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he was going through shit. we got that but these... releases are keep getting smaller and smaller. at this point--he either needs to get his shit together or get people to help him.
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I'm quite out of the loop in regards to what's going on, but I have to say that this situation really doesn't look good. WVM was a great game full of positivity and unique characters, something you can connect to and feel happy to spend your time on.
I understand that certain unfortunate events (or rather losses) have made quite a negative impact on dev's emotional wellbeing, so some people should be more understanding. However, there are far better ways of handing the situation.
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In my opinion, this topic should have "On-Hold" tag added to it. It should have been added a long time ago in fact.
Patreon supporters should be aware of what's going on and make up their mind if they want to continue supporting an inactive project or not.
I personally think that's a silly thing to do as it does the opposite of helping to motivate the dev to do anything. Why work on something when it's generating passive income without you lifting a finger.. work --> get paid.
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You can tell that WVM has been made with a lot of love and passion from the dev. Game developing is time consuming and that only escalated with high quality content, renders and a well written story that keeps you engaged. He was doing great.
But now he clearly needs some time off, and that's okay. I personally think that he had plenty of time to find a way to deal with things, but we all deal with losses differently. Some get buried into work, others find other ways.
To me, it looks as if dev is not dealing with what happened and is stuck in a loop that's keeping him from accepting things and moving on. If dev happens to read this post, I would suggest professional help. There is absolutely no shame in it.
As for this side-story.. I'm failing to understand why it exists. And this is coming from a guy that really likes Harper a lot.
I'm not saying I dislike the idea of side-stories, but now is most definitely not a good time for them, and I'm not even going to talk about how absurd of a decision it was to censor the images. I will only say that if nudity wasn't part of the plan, it shouldn't have been added in the first place.
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As for being a perfectionist, I am one as well. Anxiety, depression.. best buddies of mine. But there's also something called excuses and it would be wise to draw a clear line between the concepts. You work on something, or you don't. Breaks are fine, refinements and adjustments are not only always possible, but a key part of working on projects you care about.
Criticism is unavoidable, but it doesn't have to be taken to heart EVERY single. You cannot and will never be able to please everybody, so focus on the audience that the game is built for. If that audience is you alone, then follow your heart and use that freedom to work on it the way you intended to. If you are a creator, then YOU create, not your audience.
Although, positive criticism is another story. Having a look from a different perspective can give you new insights and expand horizons so I would recommend finding a way to filter shittalk from a positive criticism and only listen to what may improve the project.
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And lastly, "I'm not a leader" and writer's block part; you don't need to be a leader. What you could do is make a channel with sole purpose of discussion about ideas and suggestions.
That way, there's a chance to spark your imagination every time a new post drops. You could even take it further to discuss it with the person that posted the idea / suggestion and it would only work in your favor, as well as in the interest of the project development.
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Anyways, I wrote an unholy amount of text here so I'm gonna take a break. I truly hope WVM comes to life again.
Have a good one everybody!
I understand that certain unfortunate events (or rather losses) have made quite a negative impact on dev's emotional wellbeing, so some people should be more understanding. However, there are far better ways of handing the situation.
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In my opinion, this topic should have "On-Hold" tag added to it. It should have been added a long time ago in fact.
Patreon supporters should be aware of what's going on and make up their mind if they want to continue supporting an inactive project or not.
I personally think that's a silly thing to do as it does the opposite of helping to motivate the dev to do anything. Why work on something when it's generating passive income without you lifting a finger.. work --> get paid.
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You can tell that WVM has been made with a lot of love and passion from the dev. Game developing is time consuming and that only escalated with high quality content, renders and a well written story that keeps you engaged. He was doing great.
But now he clearly needs some time off, and that's okay. I personally think that he had plenty of time to find a way to deal with things, but we all deal with losses differently. Some get buried into work, others find other ways.
To me, it looks as if dev is not dealing with what happened and is stuck in a loop that's keeping him from accepting things and moving on. If dev happens to read this post, I would suggest professional help. There is absolutely no shame in it.
As for this side-story.. I'm failing to understand why it exists. And this is coming from a guy that really likes Harper a lot.
I'm not saying I dislike the idea of side-stories, but now is most definitely not a good time for them, and I'm not even going to talk about how absurd of a decision it was to censor the images. I will only say that if nudity wasn't part of the plan, it shouldn't have been added in the first place.
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As for being a perfectionist, I am one as well. Anxiety, depression.. best buddies of mine. But there's also something called excuses and it would be wise to draw a clear line between the concepts. You work on something, or you don't. Breaks are fine, refinements and adjustments are not only always possible, but a key part of working on projects you care about.
Criticism is unavoidable, but it doesn't have to be taken to heart EVERY single. You cannot and will never be able to please everybody, so focus on the audience that the game is built for. If that audience is you alone, then follow your heart and use that freedom to work on it the way you intended to. If you are a creator, then YOU create, not your audience.
Although, positive criticism is another story. Having a look from a different perspective can give you new insights and expand horizons so I would recommend finding a way to filter shittalk from a positive criticism and only listen to what may improve the project.
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And lastly, "I'm not a leader" and writer's block part; you don't need to be a leader. What you could do is make a channel with sole purpose of discussion about ideas and suggestions.
That way, there's a chance to spark your imagination every time a new post drops. You could even take it further to discuss it with the person that posted the idea / suggestion and it would only work in your favor, as well as in the interest of the project development.
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Anyways, I wrote an unholy amount of text here so I'm gonna take a break. I truly hope WVM comes to life again.
Have a good one everybody!
- Mar 2, 2019
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Yeah we all know how that will go, we saw and still see it with the week 1 redo and all the crying about having to restart the game (that won't even be necessary) and that it takes of time from the actual update.. And it isn't perceived well in other games too, like SLF or Summertime Saga (well it would be better for that one if it didnt take that long).
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Finally this thread showing some teeth.
A month ago; Been accused of being troll. Battled with Facepalmer squad. Even some members tried to excommunicated me. Been blocked by some members. Couple of my posts deleted by mod(s?).
Last decent update was almost a year ago.
I started this game before October or November beta. I criticised the update taking too much time.
After the beta released next full update was scheduled Feb 14. Then Late Feb. After that early March. To late March. Again in April. Now May is almost over. Still no update instead some side project which i haven't played yet.
Almost 1 year with less than 500 renders.
Also this project was designed as 5 Years. Now he expanded to 10 Years. I got a suggestion for Patreon members go to the tailors and tell them "I want bigger pockets." Cause u guys will need it.
About ditlo: I just wasted 300 mb.
Said it 3 months ago.
A month ago; Been accused of being troll. Battled with Facepalmer squad. Even some members tried to excommunicated me. Been blocked by some members. Couple of my posts deleted by mod(s?).
Last decent update was almost a year ago.
I started this game before October or November beta. I criticised the update taking too much time.
After the beta released next full update was scheduled Feb 14. Then Late Feb. After that early March. To late March. Again in April. Now May is almost over. Still no update instead some side project which i haven't played yet.
Almost 1 year with less than 500 renders.
Also this project was designed as 5 Years. Now he expanded to 10 Years. I got a suggestion for Patreon members go to the tailors and tell them "I want bigger pockets." Cause u guys will need it.
About ditlo: I just wasted 300 mb.
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It seems perfectly logical, reasonable, and not filled with unjustified outrage.
That's your problem. We don't do any of that here.
Starting to Wonder if this needs to be flagged as On-Hold because no real update in a long long time
- Jun 30, 2018
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Starting to wonder if you know the rules for tags on this site. (Hint: Duration between updates is no requirement for on hold.)
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Anyway, thread is moving fast today. Played through the side story and I am having trouble locating it in the main story. May have something to do with "After Day 15" since we don't know the revised timeline yet.
The censored version of Harp confused me a bit since that's definitely new for the game, but I'lll explain it for myself with Sunshine Love, where girls we haven't seen naked yet received nipple patches in their x-ray pics.
People who complain about an "improper sentence" obviously have missed the fact that Harp immediately apolgised to Natalie for the remark, and also obviously, she wasn't even bothered by it since she knows her mom truly loves her.
Anyway, I hope that the main story will continue soon.
- Oct 28, 2018
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anyone remember when this used to get like 100 renders every week? i miss that.
- Sep 10, 2020
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Don't waste your time.
Okay thanks been waiting a year and still haven’t gotten anything decent yet. I get dude is going through shit but damn... it’s just such a good game. Scared with some of the changes hes made as well.
Ikr I miss those days too. Used to be so excited to play this game. Literally the best game on this website in my opinion but then everything went to shit. Oh well
I just love reading through these comments. Drama is great when you have no stake in it.
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Most people step on a lego, but you stood on it. What dedication.
He has not suspended pledges for several months now. I can verify.
Dude there hasn’t been an update in over a year…
This my exact thoughts summed up. man just need that update