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Probably the same place as all the update content that was supposed to be done by now.
If you started "DITLO" then it's ok. It uses a different save location as the main WVM game.
- Sep 12, 2018
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I dunno... ''looks at all the stolen saves on my desktop'...
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Look before i begin i want to clarify. I don't blame anyone who is a supporter of BD to suspend their support. I also don't blame others for questioning intentions, especially since money is involved. What I'm about to say isn't a defense of BD, it's actually more accurately a statement of reality.
So first off, if you don't want to support don't support, if you don't trust BD then follow your gut. But don't mistake your support as a contract or a purchase. The only thing BD owes Patreons are the tier based rewards. If you continue supporting him understand that's exactly what you are doing, supporting him. The project survives off of donations and generosity. You aren't backing the project as an investor, you are supporting the Dev for the projects that he's working on. This isn't go fund me where you are giving money for a specific product, person or service. On Patreon you specifically support creators because you enjoy what they create.
I want you to truly understand what that means here. You aren't owed anything other than teir rewards. That's it. So support for the creator is exactly that, support. You are paying for his doctors appointments, his marriage, his home, his funerals. His food and all his other bills, as well as supporting his machine/machines, programs, models and more.
Can he achieve as much without you? Obviously not, it's not in his best interest to do things that affect or hurt his fan base so i think i see a few things that i want you to consider.
1. He's been very forthcoming with information this whole time. This is a good sign that he's still communicating. The Tyrant went dead and not a word from it's creator. Devs generally stop communicating as much when they are given up on a project.
2. Covid 19 did happen. I know it's memes and all of that, but still this pandemic has had a huge affect on everyone's mental health. He has had alot happen in his life and as someone whos gone through simular things i can understand how that affects you. Keep in mind depression and anxiety affects everyone different but i think it affects BD simular to how it affects me. It's like loosing the will to do anything and the only way i get out of my huge dumps is with proper medication, therapy and lots of support. So yeah people might be getting banned from his discord for speaking out. But when your like this thay negatively does more damage than anything, you can't be around it to get moving again.
I guess what I'm trying to say is bail if your going to bail, but if your sticking around do so for the right reasons and be supportive. If by August nothing has changed i recommend at that time to leave but until then, let's just say that even though I'm not a patreon myself, i just don't believe he's milking it or even lying. I believe that this game blew up huge and the expectations that landed on BD were likely more than his anxiety could handle, coupled with tragedy followed by depression is the perfect recipe for this kind of disaster. Everyone grieves and handles anxiety and depression differently. You can tell when playing that this game and it's story means alot to the guy and that he enjoys sharing it so I'm going to give it a little longer.
So first off, if you don't want to support don't support, if you don't trust BD then follow your gut. But don't mistake your support as a contract or a purchase. The only thing BD owes Patreons are the tier based rewards. If you continue supporting him understand that's exactly what you are doing, supporting him. The project survives off of donations and generosity. You aren't backing the project as an investor, you are supporting the Dev for the projects that he's working on. This isn't go fund me where you are giving money for a specific product, person or service. On Patreon you specifically support creators because you enjoy what they create.
I want you to truly understand what that means here. You aren't owed anything other than teir rewards. That's it. So support for the creator is exactly that, support. You are paying for his doctors appointments, his marriage, his home, his funerals. His food and all his other bills, as well as supporting his machine/machines, programs, models and more.
Can he achieve as much without you? Obviously not, it's not in his best interest to do things that affect or hurt his fan base so i think i see a few things that i want you to consider.
1. He's been very forthcoming with information this whole time. This is a good sign that he's still communicating. The Tyrant went dead and not a word from it's creator. Devs generally stop communicating as much when they are given up on a project.
2. Covid 19 did happen. I know it's memes and all of that, but still this pandemic has had a huge affect on everyone's mental health. He has had alot happen in his life and as someone whos gone through simular things i can understand how that affects you. Keep in mind depression and anxiety affects everyone different but i think it affects BD simular to how it affects me. It's like loosing the will to do anything and the only way i get out of my huge dumps is with proper medication, therapy and lots of support. So yeah people might be getting banned from his discord for speaking out. But when your like this thay negatively does more damage than anything, you can't be around it to get moving again.
I guess what I'm trying to say is bail if your going to bail, but if your sticking around do so for the right reasons and be supportive. If by August nothing has changed i recommend at that time to leave but until then, let's just say that even though I'm not a patreon myself, i just don't believe he's milking it or even lying. I believe that this game blew up huge and the expectations that landed on BD were likely more than his anxiety could handle, coupled with tragedy followed by depression is the perfect recipe for this kind of disaster. Everyone grieves and handles anxiety and depression differently. You can tell when playing that this game and it's story means alot to the guy and that he enjoys sharing it so I'm going to give it a little longer.
Lets take this in steps.
I NEVER stated depression was physical. Thats entirely YOU readin that out of the blue.
It IS a disorder with severety differences. Thats actually all it is. You dont get different kinds of depression, you get degrees of severety excactly same symptoms. Some symptoms you might not have effectively, because you learned how to cope with them normally.
And you CAN generalize how you let depression effect you. Its purely and entirely a mental state, derived from a possible deficiancy in your bodys ability to administer/produce the three drugs seratonin/endorfins/forgot last.
"simply because I was not willing to accept it and seek help due the stigma associated with it" and this is the crux of it and why ppl with depression usually doesnt get better. And the first part explained why you even with your accomplishments and later attempts at getting further in life, didnt matter. You still didnt attend to the problem.
"Gettin back to your friend. I was in a similar pattern of playing games , wathing movies/series/streams just so I could keep all that built up misery (emotions) at bay simply because I was not even close to brave enough to handle them. So I would spend all my awake time keeping myself occupied with something/anything to feel somewhat sane and as such I dreaded going to sleep since I had nothing to distract me there. But after going to sleep somehow, I would start that exact same pattern again and as you can imagine this only worked for so long till 2020 as I described above."
This is the default setting for someone doing nothing about his wellbeing. You chased seratonin. The instant gratification part of your body. Just like my friend. And this is why depressed ppl stay depressed. They dont go for long term happy drugs, only short term. They dont last, and at some point they dont even work anymore, because your body gets oversaturated by it.
"The reason I made this is just to give you an example of depression affects people differently and your friend might need serious help."
You pretty much described standard depression that every depressed person has. And showed the distractions they find themself caught in. Instant gratification to at least feel anything.
My friend does get help, he just doesnt respond to it. He instead uses it as an acceptance of his bad state, and indulges in it to a degree that makes him worse. It becomes a "valid" excuse for him to keep chasing seratonin and not havin to do the hard work. And its actually to the point where he is starting to lie to his therapist to get further validations and diagnosis' so he can cement his position even more. He is chasing with every fiber of his being, the easy way out. And then when he at rare moments get a glimpse at real life, he gets further depressed because now a lot of time has passed him by, and he has done nothing in that time.
"From experience, what I can tell is that you fight your way everyday through it but I genuinely feel you need help to really get over it and actually move on with your life"
Here you are just salty as fuck. Maybe its jealousy, I really dont know. But you and I both know what Chronic depression means... well unless you were lying. There is NO getting over it, its for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. You know, what chronic actually means. I am at a state where I have accepted it, and work with it. I am well aware I will never feel "happy" ever again. I am aware I wont feel in love again.
I have through 20 fucking years learned how to prioritize what to spend my energy on, because its lacking. I have learned what to cut out of my live, who to cut out of my life. So I can function at a minimum, without feeling like taking my own life.
I have been working for many years with this. And have been working on so many aspects of my life to get here, at a state where I function. Its not fucking pride, its PRIORITY. Its simply discipline. And its something every single depressive person needs to learn. Discipline keeps you functioning, and paying attention to stress and how you process bad thoughts, is what keeps you from relapsing. And its why with severely depressed ppl, this is what they teach them. How to keep bad thoughts at bay, how to keep your hygene, how to keep doing your chores/job, how to fall asleep or how to keep a sleeping schedule. How to stay on track with exercise and any dietary needs. Its to teach discipline, so you can help yourself all the while teaching what helps.
Why am I mentioning my friend (in your eyes in a judgemental way). Because he is the polar opposite of a functioning depressive person, and Dev here has the same airs around him. I mention myself, because I AM a functional chronic depressive. I dont wallow in my despair, I stop the dark and debilitating thoughts, I dont use excuses. But I DID. I was my friend. Untill I learned the simple fact.... to get better, its all on YOURSELF and how you think and act.
Thats part of why my friend lives in my house. So he can see, that it works. So he can learn the difference, because he doesnt get it on his own. And I dont want my friend to become chronic or waste 10 years of his life, doing what I did and you do, that doesnt work.
Ive been chronic depressive for 20 years.. Aka, its been 20 years since I was diagnosed with chronic depression. I had depression way before that. And I didnt learn fast enough.
With depression there are three types in general. Those that learn fast, and get out of the depression (with or without help, doesnt matter, they learn fast they need to put in effort to change). Those that learn way too slow (me), and those that never learn (never gets to be functional or just ends it themselves). And you learn fast among depressed whos who. Do they use their diagnosis to stay as they are, or do they use it to get better. (and for the ME's, a long state of of the first untill they realize). If they seem to wallow in their state, they wont ever be type 1. If they use their diagnosis to keep stasis (me), and the last, if they use their diagnosis to keep stasis and use it as an excuse to be worse or get attention (might even seek more diagnosis' to validate even more excuses). Ive spent way too much time dealing with depressives. Having been in groups, having been teaching groups, having mentorships with them to help them get further. You really really learn what signs to look for. They are simplified here, but pretty explanatory.
Not read this thread for a year because I lost trust in BD since way back then, seems things have gotten even worse. 8 months without proper update and then delaying further without good reason(other than buy himself more time for the next update)...you just know things are bad when the dev is defending himself and making excuses in his own game thread and barely have any vocal supporters left.
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Easy. RDR2 without a doubt.The real question is, "God of War 2018 or Red Dead Redemtion 2?"
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Yup. He was procrastinating. Now he is in panic mode. Releasing a side update to keep his patreons "happy" and attacking anyone that is calling him out. If you check out his discord its an absolute gem of an echo chamber. You gotta praise him for manipulating so many people around his problems in order to get money by doing the absolute minimum/nothing.
I think the process of promises and delays will continue until its no longer profitable.
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First i want to clarify again that i dont think Braindrop is "milking" people.
But this here is an issue. Depression has different effects on people, ok, some effects are shared but lets leave it there and assume that as correct. You got affected the same way, great.
Tell me, were you a whole year without working? Or lets rephrase it, were you a whole year without delivering significant results in your job, assuming you had one?
Because this is the issue, if you are depressed, you cant use that as an excuse for a whole year. Go to the psychiatrist and get medication, go to therapy and get treated, people were understanding for months, but it gets to the point that it turns into just an excuse.
And i dont say this in a ill manner, but if you allow depression to block you for so long, you are hurting your mental health even more.
And this is why i think having "deadlines" is good, and why it was a very bad decisions from their supporters to vote on "publish when you consider it ready. Because not having deadlines leaves the door open to keep stalling any effort to get out of the rabbit hole.
I think the recent decision Braindrop took was the best in months, and can be the beginning of the process to get out of the hole he is in, but it took him too long to take it, and thats why people have lost their trust.
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I love people who talk about medical issues without having an idea about what it means , or the basic notion that depression is not like a a small cut that you can put a bandage on it and you're done and it affects people differently.
but sure you guys keep on telling your opinions on something 99.99% of you have no idea.
I keep forgetting that this is the internet and people think their opinion is correct)).
carry on.
but sure you guys keep on telling your opinions on something 99.99% of you have no idea.
I keep forgetting that this is the internet and people think their opinion is correct
)).carry on.
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God of wsr personally, altough RDR2 is a technical wonderEasy. RDR2 without a doubt.
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There are many reasons for the lack of vocal support right now.
For starters most thread regulars stopped posting early last yesr after the mods came in to clean the thread. On top of that look at the brutal and completely toxic comments from the last 30 or so pages. Who in their right mind would want to engage with that especially when most of the toxic people just want to complain and not have healthly conversation.
Plus if you DARE disagree with them or call them out for their toxic bullshit, they troll harder, I mean what kind of depraved insensitive ignorant malcontent attacks a man for losing a loved one, or expects ANYONE to work 24/7 to give them what to 99% is a FREE game on non dev timetables, they are all a bunch of oozes, sucking the life out of this thread. And to the low IQ MEME fiend who's retaliation to being called out on his all the other trash's bull shit was a not at all clever bootlicking meme, I'd rather do that to a person who has EARNED my respect, than side with the utter basic rubbish that is you and your anonymous Pals.
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don't forget about the facepalm warriors
I've gotten quite a few reactions from them, some of them are even more awesome, they track comments that have nothing to do with the comment that attracted attention just so they can facepalm more
God bless these lovely people.
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Don't try to come off as a saint hypocrite. I've seen you facepalm a few of my posts. So don't go throw stones around when you threw a few yourself.don't forget about the facepalm warriors
I've gotten quite a few reactions from them, some of them are even more awesome, they track comments that have nothing to do with the comment that attracted attention just so they can facepalm more
God bless these lovely people.
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I reckon you have difficulties reading ,thererfore misunderstanding my post, but do carry on.