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macadam

Chicken Bubble Butt
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Aug 5, 2016
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sandbox chases many away...the first release was pure VN..the favoured style..if you suddenly change you'll go the way of many other forgotten ignored games..if you had of started sandbox thats one thing..but midway change is death...also..sandboxes usually(not always) suck ass :p
my sandbox doesnt suck ass :p

sandbox can be good. its just not good nor fun if the main point is to add grinding pseudo gameplay time in the game. but if it add more fun.. its all good. (my own game have sandbox, yeah you probably not know XD. and its nothing about grinding shit, stats or else. you go to places, make a chocies and enjoy. simple as that. like a "real" sandbox should be.)

its just because too many devs use the word "sandbox" badly. it give bad reputation to something that is actually fun if well done . :p
 

pinehill

New Member
Apr 28, 2019
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Second time I renamed a character in a game then to have a main character in the game with the same name. I now have my adoptive mother and Jamie's sister with the same names. Not going to be as weird as My Cute Roomate* with her and her friend having the same name though
 

Korentin

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Game Developer
May 20, 2019
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Nice one, hopefully it won't go freeroam/sandbox though.

I choose to cheat on the girlfriend with Shauna since I really liked her. Guess we won't be able to break up with the girlfriend anytime soon though which is to bad since I'd rather have Shauna as the girlfriend. Just have to wait and see.

Checked out the other cheating options but bailed on them since they didn't feel right.
 

ThunderRob

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May 10, 2018
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Nice one, hopefully it won't go freeroam/sandbox though.

I choose to cheat on the girlfriend with Shauna since I really liked her. Guess we won't be able to break up with the girlfriend anytime soon though which is to bad since I'd rather have Shauna as the girlfriend. Just have to wait and see.

Checked out the other cheating options but bailed on them since they didn't feel right.
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Deleted member 15555

Harem Lover
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After you've been a big meanie on congratulating with him for the right choosing of the cheating tag, I don't feel like doing it today ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
my bad, i did think it was him that choose the tags? but i congratulate you also haha
and dont take it as something bad, i really mean it as a compliment bro.

on another side note Braindrop97 i think the eyes of azel looks a bit weird. (you should just delete the white dot in the eyes..or make it pretty small)
 

woody554

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Jan 20, 2018
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or a sandbox where i have to grind stats till the end of time for some tiny payoff...
just keep the number of (required) repetitions at a reasonable level and you're fine. the problem is not the sandbox but the click-fest grind where you speed-click through the same exact conversations and scenes for 50-400 days and get a scene with 4 renders that you'll never see again.

look at summertime saga. 10 repetitions at max, with meaningful progress and new scenes after every 2 skill points. everybody loves. (they just hate the rewrites. don't reboot your production, ever.)

often the problem with ANY game is that the user is not getting feedback of his efforts. he won't know if the game bugged and he's repeating same scenes 200 days for nothing. the game should somehow tell you that you're on the right track. new scenes, new dialogue. meaningful progress. failing this creates an incredible amount of frustration and hate.

also tell the user when progress ends. don't make him peep on mom for 1600 days in hopes of her finally taking out that vibrator she hinted at in the previous scene. because people will click 1600 days. and they'll hate you for it, and they'll come shit on your next game on the forums because of that. and the game after that. and they'll never forget.

so, sandboxes are great. just make sure it's what your game needs and that you do it RIGHT.
 

Pinguino47

Monster Energy addict.
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Feb 24, 2018
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my bad, i did think it was him that choose the tags? but i congratulate you also haha
and dont take it as something bad, i really mean it as a compliment bro.
No worries, I was just joking. I was the one that did choose the cheating tag instead of NTR, but still, I've added the optional futa in the Genre tags too.
 

phreadom

Active Member
Sep 2, 2017
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I don't mean to be a negative nancy, but this game is another example of something that's been getting under my skin a bit lately as it's been showing up in a lot of games.

Do the lips on these models come that abnormal by default? Or are developers actually intentionally making them look that way? :(

There's this range of duck face going on... sometimes both lips, sometimes more just the top lip... usually bloated lips on top of the puckering... but when you're used to looking at more normal human beings, it can be quite off-putting to see such unnatural faces on women in these games.

I've mostly gotten over the absolutely absurd ubiquity of clinical levels of on the women... even though I still think it's ridiculous, I just resign myself to it being a ridiculous caricature, like oversized boobs, that are just going to be present on most women in these games, by virtue of the nature of the games themselves (sort of like you're going to see a lot of similarly clownish and plastic looking women in porn in general.) Although the ridiculously bloated asses are even more ubiquitous and ridiculous than the boobs, because at least with the boobs we usually get a good range from A or B cups all the way up to ridiculous. But with asses, even the flat chested girls seem to usually have asses completely disproportionate to their bodies... like an otherwise fit (or even slender/petite) girl with only her butt cheeks sticking out behind her twice the thickness of her thighs, where on a normal attractive and fit woman you would expect to see 30% to 50% more. Not double (100% more.)

But back to the main point... the freckled girl in this game... her mouth is ridiculous looking, and not actually attractive at all in my opinion. :( Kinda ruins the rest of her. It's really off-putting.




Compare those lips to some actual normal human ("white") women who would generally be considered quite attractive.

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Notice a striking difference?

Normal human ("white") girls generally don't have massive bloated-only-in-the-center lips, with extreme puckering, or some kind of horse baring its teeth kind of look.

Look at the four normal attractive women for a bit... get a feel for what actual human lips look like... then scroll back up and look at the freckled girl.

Maybe it doesn't bug anyone else here... but this level of weird exaggeration is just a turn off for me. :( Makes them look deformed and really unnatural. I expect boob variety... I can tolerate oversized butts... but permanent duck face horse lips are just a bit too much in my opinion.
 

woody554

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Jan 20, 2018
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Maybe it doesn't bug anyone else here... but this level of weird exaggeration is just a turn off for me. :( Makes them look deformed and really unnatural. I expect boob variety... I can tolerate oversized butts... but permanent duck face horse lips are just a bit too much in my opinion.
the reason are the smile morphs in daz which are really bad. it's extremely difficult to get a non-cringy smile. if you want to create anything but mild expressions you run into the limitations of the models. and unless you're great at portrait drawing AND can model, you can't really fix it.

another similar problem you often see is when people apply a head morph on a model that already had one, which gives that disturbing down syndrome face.
 
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