VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[Better Cock Spock]

and then officially abandon the game

At which point, everyone here will be to blame for being toxic haters

 

[EclipseTheStars]

FROM K7:

Man, imagine me calling a dude who is fucking mental out on a discord I am on. Has nothing to do with defending anyone but that person is obsessed with braindrop. Its actually insane, you have to see some of the stuff he writes there... Besides, that stuff doesnt take anything from my time. Just being a little funny and doing a little trolling, you know how it is, downtime between doing renders and stuff. But yeah, I rarely check that Text channel but basically only saw this person yapping nonstop. Seemed funny to me.

FROM ALEXTORCH :

Let them kill themselves and just laugh at them, why taint your name by saying anything on that place? You can be right on what you thought but now people will say that you defended a scammer, sometimes is best just look and laugh and don't get yourself deep in shit, braindrop is a big boy, he can ( ) handle himself...i guess....

K7 is a complete liar

1) I did not re-enter that channel until a few months ago, and only at the REQUEST of this thread, specifically.
2) You guys already see roughly 95% of everything I post there. Which over 3 months is not actually "a lot".
3) The incident K7 mentioned was roughly ... maybe 3 responses from me going towards a "reverse-uno" hater. Nothing more.
4) K7 has me blocked/muted on this site so I didn't even know this was posted until someone else quoted it.
5) If any of you have any faith in me over the last 3 or 4 months, posted all my replies and the replies of others, including the Developer, for all to see with no censorship, this guy is STRAIGHT LYING out his ass.

also, i meant the quote, not the person i "have" to quote because i can't actually see K7s posts
oh, and since i got the reputation:



i was literally at that guy's page verifying he was actually the developer on here shit-talking me for no reason when he posted that, then immediately went to my page and block/muted me
that was on purpose, and pre-meditated - he didn't just come in here on accident and be upset

if any one of the long-time regulars on this thread that i have good rapport with asked me to stop posting screenshots, i'd drop it right now, but i don't think a single person i'm on good terms with that asked me to do screenies in the first place would ask me to stop, no has for about 3 months now, so ...

 

[Akabakka]

Honestly, while i get the urge, as it's personal , there isn't a need to defend yourself. Any dev that comes around defending BD, i read it as either troll and/or being clueless and oblivious. Love their games and all of that, but they clearly got it twisted if they think they can run damage control for an exposed grifter at this point .

Maybe some of us are obsessed, if they wanna call it like that. Maybe it's true at this point , but from my perspective, I'm just using some down time to check on stuff and post a bit. Hell even if it was true, this still does not change the truths about the game, its dev, his little army of sycophants and followers, and the people they prey upon at this point.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Honestly, while i get the urge, as it's personal , there isn't a need to defend yourself. Any dev that comes around defending BD, i read it as either troll and/or being clueless and oblivious. Love their games and all of that, but they clearly got it twisted if they think they can run damage control for an exposed grifter at this point .

Maybe some of us are obsessed, if they wanna call it like that. Maybe it's true at this point , but from my perspective, I'm just using some down time to check on stuff and post a bit. Hell even if it was true, this still does not change the truths about the game, its dev, his little army of sycophants and followers, and the people they prey upon at this point.

someone had sent me something like that earlier, which is why one of my posts has the ALLCAPS disclaimer, but i might be taking things too seriously, and i don't mean Borpa obsession, honestly, he posts maybe once a week (and then only a few posts at those times) since the OCT16 fiasco ...

for me, it's a bit of a fix, like a drug...just a little bit; seeing that Discord and that Developer do the things they do - - almost like some weird, fucked up social experiment gone wrong

i suppose the last month, i *HAVE* been taking it more personally since that whole Morbil/BrainDrop/Patreon explosion when the last update went to shit ... maybe i should just step away for a few weeks, idk

 

[jonnyd901]

Honestly, while i get the urge, as it's personal , there isn't a need to defend yourself. Any dev that comes around defending BD, i read it as either troll and/or being clueless and oblivious. Love their games and all of that, but they clearly got it twisted if they think they can run damage control for an exposed grifter at this point .

Maybe some of us are obsessed, if they wanna call it like that. Maybe it's true at this point , but from my perspective, I'm just using some down time to check on stuff and post a bit. Hell even if it was true, this still does not change the truths about the game, its dev, his little army of sycophants and followers, and the people they prey upon at this point.

Very good points I remember when the last dev of well established games came in here on BD's defence only because of what he went through but was on the assumption of being told what the comments were not why they were being said in the 1st place.
Eclipse don't feel bad about all this I would be doing exactly what you were doing if I had supported him as you did. All this shit that supposedly is happening with BD not once did he long term pause the payments. Just take take Dark Blue as one example having losing a sibling stepping away from the game but had the decency to pause payments until he was ready to return. Philly paused his after completing COBD and will un pause once he got his next game ready.
These are just 2 examples of many but stand out more but I would be extremely pissed like you Eclipse since this game has no music,no planning,no multi paths, no mini games ect ect. This game should be getting updates more regular but he can't even get that right so I wouldn't worry about it your correct in what your saying and every right to question his work since you were paying towards it

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Very good points I remember when the last dev of well established games came in here on BD's defence only because of what he went through but was on the assumption of being told what the comments were not why they were being said in the 1st place.
Eclipse don't feel bad about all this I would be doing exactly what you were doing if I had supported him as you did. All this shit that supposedly is happening with BD not once did he long term pause the payments. Just take take Dark Blue as one example having losing a sibling stepping away from the game but had the decency to pause payments until he was ready to return. Philly paused his after completing COBD and will un pause once he got his next game ready.
These are just 2 examples of many but stand out more but I would be extremely pissed like you Eclipse since this game has no music,no planning,no multi paths, no mini games ect ect. This game should be getting updates more regular but he can't even get that right so I wouldn't worry about it your correct in what your saying and every right to question his work since you were paying towards it

it's nice to have a kindred spirit in the chat; i don't go to things i don't like and just piss on them

i really liked this game, and it *IS* just a game, but ...

i think what irks me the most is the reality behind it, the lies, the money, the real-world interactions that apply when you enter F95, Patreon, SubscribeStar, and (Steam) for those successful enough to get accepted there

i've invested over 5 years of my life following this person, and while most of them were pretty cool, man, it just hits different sometimes, and trust me, i do follow many other artists on here, and i spend time in their discords too, i feel a need to say that i'm NOT like this anywhere else

if people from Harem Hotel or AgentRedGirl for example, were to see my behavior here, they would be shocked (but would probably understand); it's just something about this guy that rubs me the wrong way, and i can't get the itch out :/

 

[jamdan]

In general if you have a public Discord and it becomes toxic that's one thing. You can't really control who joins it, most of the people on most public game/AVN Discords aren't actually paying for anything and have various motives for joining (some good, some bad).

However, if you have a sub only Discord and it ends up being toxic, then you may have an issue. People literally pay to be there, and if they're being toxic (or whatever other word you want to use) then odds are they have good reason to be. They may not all post, but based on the reaction score (the emoji reactions and such) a pretty decent number of BD's paying supporters agree with them.

And it's hard not to. Even as someone who generally defends devs, there hasn't been a more obvious case of a large/well-known developer taking advantage of their fans if not purposely lying and manipulating them.

This update alone (which was supposedly due last year, I think) missed dozens of deadlines, was in various stages of testing for months, and upon release, BD decided to cut 100 renders from it (about 15-20% of the total update) for whatever reason.

 

[jonnyd901]

it's nice to have a kindred spirit in the chat; i don't go to things i don't like and just piss on them

i really liked this game, and it *IS* just a game, but ...

i think what irks me the most is the reality behind it, the lies, the money, the real-world interactions that apply when you enter F95, Patreon, SubscribeStar, and (Steam) for those successful enough to get accepted there

i've invested over 5 years of my life following this person, and while most of them were pretty cool, man, it just hits different sometimes, and trust me, i do follow many other artists on here, and i spend time in their discords too, i feel a need to say that i'm NOT like this anywhere else

if people from Harem Hotel or AgentRedGirl for example, were to see my behavior here, they would be shocked (but would probably understand); it's just something about this guy that rubs me the wrong way, and i can't get the itch out :/

It's due to actions from BD that other dev's get the worse end of it then everyone else pays the price when they can't afford to continue the game.

Not everyone can afford to sub every game but one thing I do is drop them some money once they release an update just like buying some DLC on the major platforms.

BD doesn't know how lucky he is and really hope that comes crashing down. Just look at Ceolag the dev for the Neverwhere tales he is in regular contact with his patreons and with people on here, doesn't even get the subs BD has. His game is far better but when he released it and then it got leaked quicker than he thought he would. This caused him to lose a load of money not making hardly anything from it due to the tax laws of his country.

Maybe those discord supporters of his should have a good look elsewhere when dev's are developing and getting little in return while BD does nothing takes everything but give nothing back

 

[COACHRIDDLA]

Anything yet with Harper?

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Anything yet with Harper?

i am pretty sure there has been Harper material in the game for at least a year now, someone correct me if i'm wrong

(yes, i mean MATERIAL, not "material" )

 

[Alzaro]

Anything yet with Harper?

Nothing great

 

[Taylan13]

EclipseTheStars as I've told you before in other posts, I don't intend to tell you what you should do, I just intend to give you another point of view (from a place where I'm not personally or emotionally involved).

I don't know exactly what's going on with you and K7, it really seems like there's more behind what you're both saying, I don't want to delve into the details of it either.

I can only say that K7 is clearly speaking from unfamiliarity with situation, everyone, whether on his discord, patreon or even here on the forum, knows that BD is not doing things right. Another thing is whether they accept it or not, but as long as they don't have some mental problem you can realize how screwed up what BD does is.

The only ones who sincerely defend BD are those who are not well informed of the actions of this developer and those who are new to the game, the latter will soon become disillusioned.

A while ago I saw a comment that perfectly explains, from my perspective, why most BD fans defend him so desperately and it is: the sunk cost fallacy.

But well I'm getting off topic, what I wanted to tell you briefly and concretely is that I feel like you're taking it too personally and giving importance to the situation with K7 that it doesn't have, in short, if he doesn't like you and he blocked you for no reason then it's his problem, you should ignore him and continue with your thing because you should care if he blocked you, a sign that he's not interested in what you have to say, well that: you should return the favor in the same coin.

But not only with K7 but with everyone, both in real life and on the internet, it is good to be reciprocal with what you receive.

Hahaha I was only thinking of describing 1 paragraph, sorry if I'm heavy, I start and when I realize I already have a small bible.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

EclipseTheStars as I've told you before in other posts, I don't intend to tell you what you should do, I just intend to give you another point of view (from a place where I'm not personally or emotionally involved).

I don't know exactly what's going on with you and K7, it really seems like there's more behind what you're both saying, I don't want to delve into the details of it either.

I can only say that K7 is clearly speaking from unfamiliarity with situation, everyone, whether on his discord, patreon or even here on the forum, knows that BD is not doing things right. Another thing is whether they accept it or not, but as long as they don't have some mental problem you can realize how screwed up what BD does is.

The only ones who sincerely defend BD are those who are not well informed of the actions of this developer and those who are new to the game, the latter will soon become disillusioned.

A while ago I saw a comment that perfectly explains, from my perspective, why most BD fans defend him so desperately and it is: the sunk cost fallacy.

But well I'm getting off topic, what I wanted to tell you briefly and concretely is that I feel like you're taking it too personally and giving importance to the situation with K7 that it doesn't have, in short, if he doesn't like you and he blocked you for no reason then it's his problem, you should ignore him and continue with your thing because you should care if he blocked you, a sign that he's not interested in what you have to say, well that: you should return the favor in the same coin.

But not only with K7 but with everyone, both in real life and on the internet, it is good to be reciprocal with what you receive.

Hahaha I was only thinking of describing 1 paragraph, sorry if I'm heavy, I start and when I realize I already have a small bible.

it's fine, i'm on the spectrum IRL, nothing "too crazy", but i do have a "sexy form" of Autism ... probably leaking in here and there

thx for the words

EDIT : i have HFA ASD-1, for those whose bullshit-o-meter is tingling, - - goodnight

 

[Orlox]

I'd really have to hope that the real K7 has better things to do than to waste his time performing damage control for one of the worst scammers to ever enter the AVN market. I'd be a little disappointed if that's not just a fake using his name for attention.

When they were starting out, BD often promoted K7's game and talked about their bromance so it's not very surprising that he would defend him now. I also personally always wondered if they didn't write for each other's games or something since the writing is pretty similar, or at least it used to be.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

When they were starting out, BD often promoted K7's game and talked about their bromance so it's not very surprising that he would defend him now. I also personally always wondered if they didn't write for each other's games or something since the writing is pretty similar, or at least it used to be.

you are one ancient mother fucker, we are not worthy

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

thats can be him surname? i think.

I know that , but i mean there is not much point in giving players the ability to change mc's name and surname and after you make enough progress on the game change mc's name and surname to the one the dev has given him

 

[tslojr]

Man, imagine me calling a dude who is fucking mental out on a discord I am on. Has nothing to do with defending anyone but that person is obsessed with braindrop. Its actually insane, you have to see some of the stuff he writes there... Besides, that stuff doesnt take anything from my time. Just being a little funny and doing a little trolling, you know how it is, downtime between doing renders and stuff. But yeah, I rarely check that Text channel but basically only saw this person yapping nonstop. Seemed funny to me.

Super fucking disappointing to see K7 of all devs flippantly misgendering a trans person.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Super fucking disappointing to see K7 of all devs flippantly misgendering a trans person.

i hardly think he looked at my profile page before blocking/muting me, nor does he frequent this thread or pay any real attention to the Discord, i don't care at all - - i get messages every day from people who "can't find my pornstar profile picture" on the internet

it's a laugh when i tell them "that's because it's just a picture of me"

 

[AlterdStates7]

Well K7 coming to BD's defense, while possibly intentionally misgendering someone was certainly not on my bingo card. Had to do a double take and I gotta say I'm pretty disappointed too. Kinda funny how devs keep ending up here and sticking their foot in their mouth.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Well K7 coming to BD's defense, while possibly intentionally misgendering someone was certainly not on my bingo card. Had to do a double take and I gotta say I'm pretty disappointed too. Kinda funny how devs keep ending up here and sticking their foot in their mouth.

idk, i'm not a huge follower of K7, i have heard "of them" etc etc, but not enough to know 1 way or the other :/