VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[hic86]

Of course it's worse, at least when compared to Grandma. the title still deliver what it promises (even if stringing and milking people along with the grandma), even if it's rather dumb and shallow at times. WVM can't even stick to its own concepts, let alone a schedule.

Summer ? I feel WVM is actually on a similar path of idiocy and scams. But again the title is still far more ambitious and varied, even if both devs are insufferable right now. I'm not saying what it pulls is forgivable, but it is at least more defensible and palatable overall imo.

Both titles did legit earn some love and leeway in comparison to WVM, even if one of them ran out of goodwill years ago.

Being fair, MB was open early on that Nana was going to be a marker of the mid point, so everyone knew early days it would be a slow burn for her. I wouldn't classify that as milking, or stringing someone along. Stringing someone along would be more along the lines of "Maybe next release " from the get go.

I find the entire MB v BD comparison hilarious though. MB drops content on a set schedule, without being late, or making excuses.
BD can't even hit a small release, for content he claimed had been ready to go over a year ago.

 

[satirious]

You know what baffles me the most, every excuse every lie i think surely he's lost patreons ... NOPE. No wonder he keeps doing it he's get paid to fail.

Would the numbers fluctuate that much if the account was a vehicle for money laundering?

Just a thought

 

[EroPulse]

The developer of "Grandma's House" has rightly earned his cult. He has never missed a deadline and even works on additional side stories. If I remember correctly, he even said once on discord that he always trys to keep an update in reserve, just in case something unexpected comes up or he wants to take a vacation.

You might think that sounds completely normal for someone who is self-employed and has their life and business under control, but well... What that says about BD, you can figure out for yourself.

I can't believe I'm even remotely "defending" BD in anyway... well, it's not in defense, but I just wanted to point out that Grandma's House doesn't contain animations. Which, if the animations are done by hand that would increase dev time by a good margin. Even if they're imported through DAZ it would increase the dev time. If GH had animations, the turn around for updates would be a little longer.

The only positive thing I'll ever say about BD is on average, his quality of renders and animations in later episodes are pretty good, in comparison to other AVN's I've seen.

Ultimately, it's whatever works for the dev and their fans.

 

[ahtabom]

I understand that you say that "he won't try hard because the number of paying subscribers remains the same"...

but I think it doesn't make any sense. Logically, if he kept the same production pace as before, he wouldn't keep up with the current 3k, he would probably go from 7~10k paying subscribers.

so, deep down I believe that he is really facing problems, like bugs, difficulty in balancing time, personal problems, etc.

so, he is just stupid for not seeing the obvious, too proud to ask for help (or hire help), and overprotective of his own content... he only gets burned. he risks everything.

 

[hic86]

I can't believe I'm even remotely "defending" BD in anyway... well, it's not in defense, but I just wanted to point out that Grandma's House doesn't contain animations. Which, if the animations are done by hand that would increase dev time by a good margin. Even if they're imported through DAZ it would increase the dev time. If GH had animations, the turn around for updates would be a little longer.

The only positive thing I'll ever say about BD is on average, his quality of renders and animations in later episodes are pretty good, in comparison to other AVN's I've seen.

Ultimately, it's whatever works for the dev and their fans.

I think pointing out the animations is fair, and ya... it would add a lot of time overall per release for animations.

BUT

I don't think that takes away from the overall point, that, MB hits his deadlines.

If MB came out tomorrow and said "First of February going forward, I'm adding animations, and moving to monthly releases on the 1st".... Sure there is going to be some drop off from supporters... and he'll gain some new ones.... and he'll likely miss 0 dates.

Animations are a big difference (in the product), that make 0 difference (to the overall point every person in this thread has been making).

While BD makes promises saying 52/52, or once a month, or once a year... He misses it all.

 

[Akabakka]

I can't believe I'm even remotely "defending" BD in anyway... well, it's not in defense, but I just wanted to point out that Grandma's House doesn't contain animations. Which, if the animations are done by hand that would increase dev time by a good margin. Even if they're imported through DAZ it would increase the dev time. If GH had animations, the turn around for updates would be a little longer.

I kinda disagree. On the part about it taking longer, sure of course .... however GH would still hit its target unlike WVM. Grandma's dev work ethics would still be the same. Not over-promising, keeping ahead of potential delays in updates, not scamming people, and still a better handle on pacing and writing in both fluff scenes and sex scenes. It's about work ethics.

Animations don't excuse anything going on with WVM. Nor even better renders. There are other titles doing both with better schedule and quality

 

[EroPulse]

I kinda disagree. On the part about it taking longer, sure of course .... however GH would still hit its target unlike WVM. Grandma's dev work ethics would still be the same. Not over-promising, keeping ahead of potential delays in updates, not scamming people, and still a better handle on pacing and writing in both fluff scenes and sex scenes. It's about work ethics.

Animations don't excuse anything going on with WVM. Nor even better renders. There are other titles doing both with better schedule and quality

Maybe I wasn't very clear in my previous post. I wasn't saying that his render quality or animations are why it's taking so long. It's purely on BD for being a liar and a procrastinator.

I was strictly speaking from a time perspective. Moonbox can consistently put out updates and hits targets, what seems like every 2-4 weeks. I'm not exactly sure, I'm not a huge fan of his game to know the schedule. I agree, his work ethic is top shelf.

I was just saying that if animations were introduced to GH than the dev time between updates would likely be longer than what people have been used to.

Trust me, I'm no fan of BD. You can check my post history for that. I was just saying that I believed the reason for the short turn over for updates from MB is likely because there are only a few scenes in each update and no animations. It really isn't about BD and this shit show.

 

[uamkt]

Maybe I wasn't very clear in my previous post. I wasn't saying that his render quality or animations are why it's taking so long. It's purely on BD for being a liar and a procrastinator.

I was strictly speaking from a time perspective. Moonbox can consistently put out updates and hits targets, what seems like every 2-4 weeks. I'm not exactly sure, I'm not a huge fan of his game to know the schedule. I agree, his work ethic is top shelf.

I was just saying that if animations were introduced to GH than the dev time between updates would likely be longer than what people have been used to.

Trust me, I'm no fan of BD. You can check my post history for that. I was just saying that I believed the reason for the short turn over for updates from MB is likely because there are only a few scenes in each update and no animations. It really isn't about BD and this shit show.

his side game has annimations...It was made just to see how long it would take....GH College days.

 

[tslojr]

This is how BD was early on, when he did monthly/bi-weekly releases. But BD, unlike MB, didn't want to make a porn game. So everything eventually unraveled when he tried to take what was basically a porn game and make it make sense. Now these past couple years he's been stuck trying to do just that. Reworking things, his perfectionism etc. He, badly, wants/wanted this to be more than just another 50 LI harem game. But he's in too deep to make that work.

You know, I keep seeing people bringing up BD's "perfectionsim" when discussing why his updates are always so incredibly late. I find it odd that a perfectionist would leave a render in his game advertising a rework with an early 2023 release date until October of 2024.

 

[Steinchen]

You know, I keep seeing people bringing up BD's "perfectionsim" when discussing why his updates are always so incredibly late. I find it odd that a perfectionist would leave a render in his game advertising a rework with an early 2023 release date until October of 2024.

and blackboxes to hide a face,and going black screen by every kissing scene,and duck faces,and making a LI uglier (Katie),and making the LI asses aka hips bigger...
have i forgot something???

thats not a work of a perfectionist.....

 

[WhiteyG]

and blackboxes to hide a face,and going black screen by every kissing scene,and duck faces,and making a LI uglier (Katie),and making the LI asses aka hips bigger...
have i forgot something???

thats not a work of a perfectionist.....

Dropping an update with 100 missing renders that were key to the plot after weeks of play testing. I’m sure there’s more but with BD there is always more.

 

[preglovr12]

and blackboxes to hide a face,and going black screen by every kissing scene,and duck faces,and making a LI uglier (Katie),and making the LI asses aka hips bigger...
have i forgot something???

thats not a work of a perfectionist.....

It is though, once you remember he's also lazy as fuck. "Nothing I ever make will be good enough so I'll just make him have a black box for a head." That's right in line with similar decisions I've made with school projects.

He's admitted that the duck faces thing is trolling, and Katie was reworked to be a replacement for Ceder (which only a perfectionist would think he needs in the first place). As for bigger asses, I don't think that's indictive either way.

 

[Nadira]

"Nothing I ever make will be good enough"

BD mitigates that by not making anything...

 

[Reniere]

BD and SrD

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Katie was reworked to be a replacement for Ceder (which only a perfectionist would think he needs in the first place).

Wait what? How does that work

 

[ZHDarkstar]

Wait what? How does that work

Sex with Cedar will never happen because she's the sister. Therefore, the role of fuckable alt-girl will now be played by Katie?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Sex with Cedar will never happen because she's the sister. Therefore, the role of fuckable alt-girl will now be played by Katie?

Is that all? I thought it might've been something different. Hmm.

Well shit, he should've just copy/pasted Cedar and create a whole new girl named Magnolia, who just happens to look like her but definitely isn’t related at all, but acts just like her. Just a coincidence

 

[Shadow74]

Braindrop, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Look at what your taking forever to do things has done, Jamie is crying and its all your fault, you lazy bastard.

 

[preglovr12]

Sex with Cedar will never happen because she's the sister. Therefore, the role of fuckable alt-girl will now be played by Katie?

Basically. Obviously Bailey and Rainn exist but they're both rail thin.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Basically. Obviously Bailey and Rainn exist but they're both rail thin.

New Katie is a different alt-girl vibe than Cedar though. She's also stupid thicc now too, but that's more systemic.