jhb360

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My oldest build/download of WVM is dated 7/13/2022.I am not sure of the specific timeline, but sometime in my first year, he switched from one big update, to serially releasing smaller updates on a regular basis. That lasted I believe until the end of 2023, with several missed updates, and an incrementing list of excuses. As time passed, the updates became fewer and further between. The excuses became somewhat repetitive. I believe there might have been a release in April this year, looking at my time stamp, although here it shows May. My WVM experience mostly consists of posting stuff here, sometimes whining, sometimes attempts at humor. The waiting sucks, let's just hope this isn't another AOA academy waiting to happen. I can't remember how long I waited for an update of that one, only to find that the Patreon was abandoned (and the game has the tag as well)

Too bad there's not a marketplace for burned out creators of AVNs where someone with the time, ability, and resources could take it over. As creative as I've seen Fan Fiction over the years, I'm sure someone could come in and at least finish *a* story (even if they don't have *the* story available to them).
 

KiryuKazuma095

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Nah, he claims he actually worked on the game this month.
zero proof and a spotty track record is obviously good enough to whoever decided to still pay the guy after, what, 4 years of scamming?
On August 4th 2025 made a dev report on Patreon saying he is working on the game, personaly i don't believe words but he also posted a few preview photos...someone repost them here as well
 
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Blue Pasture

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He definitely is making more than 10K each month.
That is more than enough to support you.
Not defending BD in the least.

I was going to write out a full explanation with broken down cost structure, because I've done the self-employed gig lifestyle in the past, and also done all-in costing for software development, but figured no one would bother to read it.

Patreon reports income, so you get hit with self-employment taxes, then have to cover all the stuff your employer covers that you don't think about(health insurance, etc). Most people have no clue, but since it factors into my costing efforts, I know that overhead is over $50k a year for my current job. Deduct all the costs for proper rendering rigs and all the assets needed for every new setting for a scene, or an outfit change, and $10k a month in revenue as a primary job is still poverty level in the US if you are supporting a spouse and/or kid.
 

Thatheras

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Not defending BD in the least.

I was going to write out a full explanation with broken down cost structure, because I've done the self-employed gig lifestyle in the past, and also done all-in costing for software development, but figured no one would bother to read it.

Patreon reports income, so you get hit with self-employment taxes, then have to cover all the stuff your employer covers that you don't think about(health insurance, etc). Most people have no clue, but since it factors into my costing efforts, I know that overhead is over $50k a year for my current job. Deduct all the costs for proper rendering rigs and all the assets needed for every new setting for a scene, or an outfit change, and $10k a month in revenue as a primary job is still poverty level in the US if you are supporting a spouse and/or kid.

Sorry to comment, but despite your comment, which is completely correct, I'm self-employed, and hours not worked are hours of unearned money. So even though he has to pay taxes, he doesn't have any responsibilities.

That's exactly what bothers me about many of the creators of this page, because BD is far from the only one.
 
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KiryuKazuma095

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Sorry to comment, but despite your comment, which is completely correct, I'm self-employed, and hours not worked are hours of unearned money. So even though he has to pay taxes, he doesn't have any responsibilities.

That's exactly what bothers me about many of the creators of this page, because BD is far from the only one.
Not want to be bad but doesn't the Tax pay differs on each state of U.S.A?? I don't know how U.S work
 

armion82

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Not defending BD in the least.

I was going to write out a full explanation with broken down cost structure, because I've done the self-employed gig lifestyle in the past, and also done all-in costing for software development, but figured no one would bother to read it.

Patreon reports income, so you get hit with self-employment taxes, then have to cover all the stuff your employer covers that you don't think about(health insurance, etc). Most people have no clue, but since it factors into my costing efforts, I know that overhead is over $50k a year for my current job. Deduct all the costs for proper rendering rigs and all the assets needed for every new setting for a scene, or an outfit change, and $10k a month in revenue as a primary job is still poverty level in the US if you are supporting a spouse and/or kid.
I didn't say he is making 10K,I said he is making way more than 10K.Probably close to 20K.
 

KiryuKazuma095

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Some states tax income, some tax purchases, and I believe there are still two states that tax neither. However, there are other taxes, property tax being the most prevalent.
Well I don't live in the US so I did not know any of that...but I heard that some states Tax rate is lower than Other, of course I don't know where BD lives in ,just wanted to state that the Tax have variations
 

jhb360

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Well I don't live in the US so I did not know any of that...but I heard that some states Tax rate is lower than Other, of course I don't know where BD lives in ,just wanted to state that the Tax have variations
I understand. I just wanted to lay a framework on how taxing is different from state to state. I looked it up and about five states have an income and sales tax. Double Whammy lol

I just know that I prefer to live in a state (besides confusion) where there's no direct income tax and I get taxed on purchases.
 

Bootyman92

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So, long story short, this guy may be turning into another developer of a certain game that had very spotty development, but completed and then he just vanished from the face of the earth after teasing DLCs of said game?
 

daddymeneer

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harper is cool but she is just such an emotional wreck. I don't understand how some of y'all choose her instead of Natalie.

EDIT... okay never mind, I had the chance to kiss her forehead. I love damaged girls!!! goooooooo low self esteem (and the crowd goes wild)
 
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