I know that, I'm also using Sancho's mod, I'm talking about the unavoidable flashback with Keyla at the end (the 2nd flashback), in that flashback MC has sex with Keyla despite the fact that she's with Steve already and that she, as far as I'm concerned, cheated on MC with Steve. So now she's automatically cheated on both of them with each other, regardless of what you've done with her in game.
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Okay now your point is clear to me.
I don't have a problem with it, myself. But different strokes for different folks.
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Yes: the fact that a character in a VN has a back story that might include unfaithfulness and sex with someone other than the MC is just a horrible, horrible thing. It is too close to reflecting reality instead of letting the player live in the fantasy that's he's the biggest swinging dick in the universe and that all women will abstain from sex until they can have his schlong and his schlong only and ever forever and ever and ever.
What a fucking cope. God forbid I don't want a Love Interest to have cheated on the MC, it's almost like there's a specific three letter tag for that which most people don't like. And no, I'm not saying that tag should be applied to this game, but the principle is the same, because it involves a LI cheating on the MC. Also, there is a big difference between a LI having a previous relationship and a LI cheating on the MC. There is yet another difference between a LI cheating on the MC, and forcing the MC to get back with said cheater in an unavoidable flashback.Yes: the fact that a character in a VN has a back story that might include unfaithfulness and sex with someone other than the MC is just a horrible, horrible thing. It is too close to reflecting reality instead of letting the player live in the fantasy that's he's the biggest swinging dick in the universe and that all women will abstain from sex until they can have his schlong and his schlong only and ever forever and ever and ever.
It's not too close to reality, because in reality, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of getting back with a bitch who cheated on me, under any circumstance. The problem is that it's forced, obviously I'd rather it didn't happen at all if she's going to be a LI, but since it did happen and she is, allegedly, a LI, I would simply prefer if the MC wasn't forced to have hooked up with her after she hopped onto Steve's dick.
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Reading comprehension and actually thinking out your position are tiring for low energy individuals.
Avoid the character in an unavoidable flashback, why didn't I think of that?
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You're special aren't you....you know the only reason that flashback exists right? Right? Get the fuck over it and move on with your life, you've made your point you dislike her. Good for you.
I was done before either of you big brains even said a word to me, you 2 are the reason this conversation even exists.
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You made three posts about it before I even commented.
Maybe you should work on increasing the size of your own brain first before trying to call me out
All that over some dumb bint, whom you can choose to exclude in the future - and I think many will choose to do just that.
The whole cheating affair with Kayla is indeed rather off-putting. You had the protagonist start off with no self-respect, staying in an ultimately toxic relationship with her. Then eventually the whole fiasco with Kim, where she disrespects his own sense of agency, his right to be told the truth, at the very least.
But it doesn't need to stay that way. You can cut them and their toxicity out of the protagonist's life permanently, and move onto better things - thus having the protagonist grow as a person, and gain a better sense of self-worth. Decent character growth for the protagonist themselves is something that many VNs fail to ever do.
Now, if the dev decided to force players into a compulsory relationship with her in the future, then that would be a completely different matter.
The whole cheating affair with Kayla is indeed rather off-putting. You had the protagonist start off with no self-respect, staying in an ultimately toxic relationship with her. Then eventually the whole fiasco with Kim, where she disrespects his own sense of agency, his right to be told the truth, at the very least.
But it doesn't need to stay that way. You can cut them and their toxicity out of the protagonist's life permanently, and move onto better things - thus having the protagonist grow as a person, and gain a better sense of self-worth. Decent character growth for the protagonist themselves is something that many VNs fail to ever do.
Now, if the dev decided to force players into a compulsory relationship with her in the future, then that would be a completely different matter.
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Their original and first relationship was far from toxic...anything but, the exact opposite in fact. You reading the same dialogue as everyone else?
Everything after that, the rekindling and then the subsequent failing tell the MC about Kim...sure...she deserves it, as much as the MC does for also rekindling. So hate her, surely you all hate the MC (you) just as much hmmm? Food for thought...
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Where exactly did you get the cheating on the MC from?
She was forced to move with no prospect of coming back. If you consider her cheating, then MC did the same with Alessa, at that point becomes a mental gymnastic on who cheated first, but the fact is no one did it with the intention of cheating, they just thought will never see each other again and moved on.The only actual cheating in the game is MC and Keyla cheating on
Edit: Forgot Zeke cheating on Keyla also.
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lol this is almost turned into a / popcorn read and a dumb one at that. I understand not liking the cheating flashback scene or w/e but to me it seems like a important one just to really put the nail in the coffin and show how horrible of a person Keyla is. As well to show how the MC was shitty to and correct me if im wrong as I forgot a bit but isn't part of the game's story trying portray how the MC is trying to be a better person than he was in the past.
Also I don't get how some thinks a flashback means it's forced relationship when it's that a flashback of the past and I been ignoring her in my game so nothing been forced other than to show some important backstory.
Also I don't get how some thinks a flashback means it's forced relationship when it's that a flashback of the past and I been ignoring her in my game so nothing been forced other than to show some important backstory.
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Correct....correct....aaaannnnd correct.
Well done Des, at least some of us actually pay attention.
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You are all a bunch of haters, I still hold hope for a Keyla redemption arc. But yeah, I can't lie, last update was character assassination on her and when she polls same numbers as Kim, you know she is pretty much done.
But yeah, I can't lie, last update was character assassination on her and when she polls same numbers as Kim, you know she is pretty much done.
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We are all playing this game. We are holding the hand of dev through our deep dives into the plot of this game .. be it shallow as a Sunday times read of - who done it with who and - who ran away with who and - who is Leo di Caprio current underage victim and - who is this month Jude Law putting a baby into and - who was Kanie pump and dumping this weekend.
The girls and MC alike are carefree hook up artists, they just do not feel the sense of beholden that actual relationship driven boys and girls around the globe have in their hearts as a driving force to be with or follow their bethrothed anywhere and everywhere.
The girls and MC alike are carefree hook up artists, they just do not feel the sense of beholden that actual relationship driven boys and girls around the globe have in their hearts as a driving force to be with or follow their bethrothed anywhere and everywhere.
Where exactly did you get the cheating on the MC from?
The only actual cheating in the game is MC and Keyla cheating onSteveZeke.
Edit: Forgot Zeke cheating on Keyla also.
You are all a bunch of haters, I still hold hope for a Keyla redemption arc.
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Hey not me...I have nothing against her other than not telling us Kim was leaving (though it is revealed this last update why she didn't say anything...to an extent, fair enough). Cheating does not bother me in the slightest as the MC was just as culpable. They both made a huge mistake. Done, in the past. She not my fave by a long way, but don't dislike her and do have a save for her.