They have a happy history together, so making the MC be an asshole to herI haven't finished the update yet but came here to rant.
So I started with my Michelle playthrough obviously and I just can't stand the trip with Kim. I turned her down every single time and her and MC still act like a couple of lovebirds. They worry about booking one room but both are cool about her walking naked in front of him? I remember how the dev assured everybody before release of Chapter 2 that we'll have the option to not listen to Kim's explanation just to hear it anyway in that hotel room with MC saying that he cares. Well, I don't...
Suddenly it's crucial to the story or what?
About Zeke and Keyla, funny how it turns out Zeke has banged sorority girls behind Keyla's back so we don't have to feel bad that Keyla and MC have done it behind Zeke's back. I don't know if dev is trying to say we all make mistakes with the use of those two but I feel like they just become more unlikeable by that.
MC is still too fucking philosophical. I swear, half of the dialogs with LIs is him saying "life is hard but you have to keep going, trust me, I know" just using different words and the girls are like "awww, he always knows what to say".
I didn't see anybody mention it but there is a good amount of textures where the clothes merge together but that's just a detail.
Rant is over, gotta take a break now before trying to finish this update.
Yeah, I agree but my point is this: harem, no harem, general harem, true harem, partial harem, eunuch harem... WTF? Who cares. Play the game and see how it goes. Don't like the outcome? Try again. Still don't like it? Delete the whole fuckin' thing and try a different AVN. It's really not rocket science... Though an awful lot of folks want it to be a debate. I share your frustrations, bro. But if I'm being honest I'm not sure why I care. Oh, wait... Actually, I don't so, nevermind... Heh Jus' Sayin'Which ironicaly, is actually wrong also lol. Honestly, bottom line is the 'tag' should never have put in the genre spoiler in the first place. The sooner F95 admins update the entire sites tag list the better. It's long overdue.
Except, Kim has been back for several months at this point, add to that the year she was gone. I don't think this familiarity was earned (or framed well). If the MC didn't forgive her, didn't hear her out, and acts cold toward her, there's no real impetus for him even entertaining these conversations.They have a happy history together, so making the MC be an asshole to her
when she is just being friendly is unrealistic and idiotic. if
you have
experience sharing the same space with an ex.
.
It's like that person in school or that co-worker you don't like but still have
to put up with. The difference here is that Kim and the MC spent years in a very happy relationship,
also don't forget
I'm stuck with her on a 3-day trip that I didn't ask for and just wanted to be over
and being an ass to her make it worse
and just because he has lingering feelings for her it's not love it's like a sneeze
that comes and goes
it doesn't mean that you love her
or you don't think that she's a piece of
shit for what she did
we're not dating and we're not best buddies she's a co-worker
No, I literally said I dont care about it being a harem or not.Did you expect to get on every path/see every girl in one playthrough? this is how most AVN paths work lol (and how these Devs get you to replay the game multiple times etc)
Why do you think so many kids have multiple saves? one for each LI lol. Be a man and just stick to one path and forget the others. If you are mad because of the pathing, you definitely need a walkthrough.
Nope but she does look like a better "Jill" than the BAD one.
I never used a walkthrough lol my MC sticks to the choices he makes. No rewinding time/knowing the future here.
Again, I literally said I dont care about harem or whatever which you chose to just ignore.this is not a Harem game and of course if you choose to do things with one girl you'll miss out
with another girl, it's called giving the choice consequences
and meaning
the MC does not have the magic power to be everywhere at once
you can't fuck them all
I didn't mention Harem. It just sounded like you wanted to see everything/every LI. I didn't say you want to go with them all or whatever.No, I literally said I dont care about it being a harem or not.
I think its bad design to have a choice that has two options of A. Hang out with X and B. Go home. Where the "go home" option actually leads to meeting y character and starting that path or being a trigger for z character to advance her story.
When the choices dont give you any context of what they are going to do and it just being "you have to try everything to see what happens" its just not fun.
yeah that's what I thought / assumed too was just saying so far it's a bit confusing how even a partial one will work because of the general feel of the game at least to me.You know...I'm sure some people just ignore what I say.
There is no full harem, paths do intersect....the devs definition of harem is not the same as F95's/yours. How many times must I repeat it....it was only yesterday I last repeated this...
Its not about seeing 100% either, its finishing a playthrough of the game and looking at the gallery to find theres entire LI's that I didnt even know were an option of seeing. Its silly and frustrating not seeing which choice was the one that locked out of a specific path because I didnt choose to go home rather than to go to dinner.I didn't mention Harem. It just sounded like you wanted to see everything/every LI. I didn't say you want to go with them all or whatever.
I mean, that's most of these AVNs though lol. Which is why most people ask for a Walkthrough or Guide. The game/Dev won't tell you everything (or have choices that tell you) because they obviously want you to play as much as you want for the content that you want.
If you want to see 100% everything, expect to play multiple times. If you don't like that, play a Kinetic Novel with no choices.
I don't think it's bad design. Just because you don't like it doesn't inherantly make it bad.I think its bad design to have a choice that has two options of A. Hang out with X and B. Go home. Where the "go home" option actually leads to meeting y character and starting that path or being a trigger for z character to advance her story.
I find it plenty fun as do many others. Maybe this really isn't the style of Vn that suits you perhaps hmm? I enjpoy finding things out and not having girl spoon fed to me so she can open her legs and it all be nice and convenient. I prefer this style, where one choice closes something else off over any other VN style personally. I enkoy finding things out and exploring the story from different angles.When the choices dont give you any context of what they are going to do and it just being "you have to try everything to see what happens" its just not fun.
Oh wahah wahh wahh....Its silly and frustrating
Its not about seeing 100% either, its finishing a playthrough of the game and looking at the gallery to find theres entire LI's that I didnt even know were an option of seeing. Its silly and frustrating not seeing which choice was the one that locked out of a specific path because I didnt choose to go home rather than to go to dinner.
It doesnt make me think, oh boy lets play again and try every choice to see what happens. It makes me go, well that fucking sucked, guess Ill just unlock the gallery and move on.
I understand you now bro fair enoughIts not about seeing 100% either, its finishing a playthrough of the game and looking at the gallery to find theres entire LI's that I didnt even know were an option of seeing. Its silly and frustrating not seeing which choice was the one that locked out of a specific path because I didnt choose to go home rather than to go to dinner.
It doesnt make me think, oh boy lets play again and try every choice to see what happens. It makes me go, well that fucking sucked, guess Ill just unlock the gallery and move on.
I actually enjoy hearing people's different experiences playing the game even if I didn't have the same oneWell, don't know what to tell you. If you don't like it, don't play it. I already know what to expect jumping into these games. I know I will miss out on characters/images if I don't pick certain choices or follow a certain path. That's just how it is.
Granted, I don't replay shit either to see everything but a lot of people on here do so, I won't bitch about it.
This would've been my preferred way of interacting with Kim, and I think you're right that some choices are shown more polarizing than they are.I seriously tried to make it through this but I had to stop shortly after ex GF came back and your only MC only options are "simp" or "scream at her"..... why can't I just be a normal person and ignore her at work for anything beyond business? Is that not realistic enough? or is it because a third "route" woupd complicate things too much going forward?
I think Kimmy was done dirty. Early on, Kimmy is brought up in a negative context. Later, after going to the gym with Zeke, he'll make a "oh no, don't look now"-remark when Kimmy passes by and recognizes them.as a monogamy player who rejects all the girls my number one girl is Kimberly
as someone that prefers monogamous paths as I well. My first time I had real trouble actually playing monogamous my first time around on this game. I hate it admit but I played it like a manwhore as I couldn't decide who I like more and by time I did decide somewhat it kind of was too late and already went further than I wanted too ( I know my fault) in the hopes of learning more about the LI and making a decision. By the time I did I kind of needed to restart and make separate saves which is 1/2 of the reason im going to replay this when I get around to playing the update.I actually enjoy hearing people's different experiences playing the game even if I didn't have the same one
and as said I did have the same problem not with this game but with other games
as a monogamy player who rejects all the girls my number one girl is Kimberly
and for me it's super easy to play her route
honestly I've never given it much thoughtI think Kimmy was done dirty. Early on, Kimmy is brought up in a negative context. Later, after going to the gym with Zeke, he'll make a "oh no, don't look now"-remark when Kimmy passes by and recognizes them.
This primes the player/reader to dislike her, and I don't think she deserves it. Instead, I think it would be worthwhile if the MC has a thought like "She's not at all how I remember her", to urge the player to reconsider what they think they know of her.