Yiff.party is down or gone?

[g55]

And I might eventually end up being jaded enough to think that people deserve to be exploited because they're stupid, but I hope not, because that means I'll have lost all of my humanity - at least all of my empathy, and that's what makes me human.

Empathy is a finite resource, don't go wasting it on fools...

 

[rf96]

262177 Here the full version of my rant:

However that wasn't my point I'm wanted to tell here. It was the fact that people deserved to get pirated for offering egregious prices for subpar content. If I was one of those people who had money burned I would've spend $8000 to buy all those packs and share them into every pirate site known to man as a fuck you. Even though I lost thousands of dollars doing so, I manage to save hundreds or thousands of people for burned $8000 dollars for that content. So they may think its a lost in my end but its actually a win long term. Because that money given from one individual ain't going last long if they don't have that many people supporting them for the long road.

I blame Sakimichan. All the artists working with Photoshop started by following her; therefore, they also reproduced her absurd plan of locking past month works. I hate that, and leak everything I can with joy.

 

[ReichLoli]

I blame Sakimichan. All the artists working with Photoshop started by following her; therefore, they also reproduced her absurd plan of locking past month works. I hate that, and leak everything I can with joy.

Yup Sakimichan is the blame for all this. Patreon was supposed to be treated as a donation/support site for artists/creators you like. Not a main income but something you can do on the side. Because of her successful model and how she can make a living off of Patreon. Every artists started looking at it thinking "they can be the next Sakimichan" then they all process to copy her model and not knowing HOW she got successful by that business model in the first place. Plus looking at Sakimichan Gumroad page, it has the same issues I have with Axsens, but instead of $60 dollars its $70 fucking dollars.

Every single time their money involve within a hobby. It just turn it into greed, bring in egotistical people who are doing it for the money, and it no longer for the passion of creating/drawing unique things. Which is why you see creators/artists half the time burned out for trying not to miss deadlines. Due to treating Patreon as their main income to live off of.

 

[ReichLoli]

 

[262177]

Empathy is a finite resource, don't go wasting it on fools...

This is a quote I would like to borrow if you don't mind. I am really glad to see my fellow pirates also have empathy and feel like they might end up running out of it, and this terrifies them as this means no more humanity left.

262177 Here the full version of my rant:

However that wasn't my point I'm wanted to tell here. It was the fact that people deserved to get pirated for offering egregious prices for subpar content. If I was one of those people who had money to burned I would've spend $8000 to buy all those packs and share them into every pirate site known to man as a fuck you. Even though I lost thousands of dollars doing so, I manage to save hundreds or thousands of people for burned $8000 dollars for that content. So they may think its a lost in my end but its actually a win long term. Because that money given from one individual ain't going last long if they don't have that many people supporting them for the long road.

I blame Sakimichan. All the artists working with Photoshop started by following her; therefore, they also reproduced her absurd plan of locking past month works. I hate that, and leak everything I can with joy.

Yes, that's also the case, and just like resubscribing to Enty/Fantia, you don't even know if it's still there anymore, and end up going "what the fuck? I've been subscribing for 5 years, and now I need to pay 60 months of posts that have literally nothing inside just to subscribe for the next month, and next month it'll be the same thing again because this thing will keep considering I've never ever supported the creator?!"

Honest creators on Fantia will use the timegate very sparingly, and always warn you before you change plans (as this will entirely reset your membership). They will also warn you that backnumbers indeed require you to be subscribed to the corresponding paid plans, so you can't just get a previous month without first supporting another month all over again.

Even more honest creators just won't use it at all, and either charge a slightly larger amount to get the entire backlog (so you can effectively tip them when you can afford it while still being fair to everyone when you come back) or charge a set amount and give access to the entire backlog immediately, whether you supported before or not. The latter will also encourage you to use the free plan first, and even try it out if you don't have a Fantia account by giving away free pics as previews of the stuff they make (and will also let you know they value the fact people come to see their stuff and are thankful for your interest, not how much you pay for it). This is how a fan club tipjar works. Tip what you want, when you want, if you can, when you feel like it, without penalties, without the creator being tied to virtual promises or deadlines. Everyone wins. Needless to say, these deserve true support.

The rarest kind is the one also disabling social tippings, which makes Fantia really mad, but they still had to add a very hidden "disable all social tippings" feature after a huge riot happened. I link to that feature on every plan I support for creators to know about it if they don't want such things - as this is indeed people tipping with emoji and competing in a bragging rights contest. You can still reaction-emote if that's your kink, just not post paid emotes anymore to show off - you can still show off by overpaying since that one cannot be disabled at all.

To get back on the topic of Gumroad, yeah, I've heard of the Sakimichan bs. And the bitch's popular. If there's some kind of pay point ranking on Gumroad, then I guess that's another "let's see who's Sakimichan's most loyal walking ATM".

The tl;dr on Gumroad is people as usual are contributing to the issue. If they boycott those creators and force them to become honest or face consequences, the community wins. But lazy rich people are legion. And lazy rich people rarely have a brain, mostly because working your ass off to make ends meet helps you get a better idea of how hard it is to "make a living". See also the double standards with creators before and during the "twitter riot", before: "it's not even my main income", during: "I'm gonna starve to death because of you!"

A tipjar isn't a kickstarter or a crowdfunding project. A milestone doesn't make it a crowdfunding project, it's a personal milestone to drive motivation. If you want to crowdfund or kickstart something, you do it fair and square. Dishonest people will get pirated, and they will deserve it. We will regret nothing, because we have all paid and been scammed by such people.

Yes, pirates have standards. In fact, most people in this thread have more empathy than 90% of content creators. Not just because they pirate and leak, but because they also share stuff they like, and honest creators will appreciate the free advertising if it's done right. As for dishonest ones, they just deserve to fall if they refuse to become honest and remain criminals. Pirating stuff is illegal, but so is extorting money from backers in many, many shady ways.

 

[g55]

This is a quote I would like to borrow if you don't mind. I am really glad to see my fellow pirates also have empathy and feel like they might end up running out of it, and this terrifies them as this means no more humanity left.

Go for it! And, hey, don't you DARE give credit to me, eh!

 

[Thotfodder]

I noticed paywall.party/kemono/ isn't working.
Is it because it's being reworked/replaced by something else at the moment?

 

[WAH]

When is Kemono going to stop throttling downloads?

 

[TitaniumDickDiamondBalls]

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Now we need one hero to leak artists like Zeronis. He rellies stronly on distributing his rewards via DMs. So far this worked really well in his favor as not many of his recenbt works can be found in the Internet plains.

 

[262177]

Now we need one hero to leak artists like Zeronis. He rellies stronly on distributing his rewards via DMs. So far this worked really well in his favor as not many of his recenbt works can be found in the Internet plains.

As far as I can tell, the importer still has trouble grabbing DMs (you can check this from recently grabbed artists). That's weird though as Patreon's broken system makes it rather easy, and no matter how much they'll pay using bugbounty or whatever - wouldn't even consider zerodium when moral ethics are under attack.

When is Kemono going to stop throttling downloads?

Tell China to stop downloading en masse and tell Shinonome to use a cloud or peer distribution based approach.
I know, neither will happen, everyone wants their porn here and now and doesn't even realize without importers, they have nothing to download. In China's case though, they just want easy money from repaywalling it.

Can't exactly download from some database 'backup'.

I noticed paywall.party/kemono/ isn't working.
Is it because it's being reworked/replaced by something else at the moment?

No clue, sorry, but good riddance if it's gone, that thing was some useless 4chan-tier thing.

Go for it! And, hey, don't you DARE give credit to me, eh!

Appreciated, thanks, heh. Don't worry about the credit part, I feel the same way about this.

 

[rf96]

I know, neither will happen, everyone wants their porn here and now and doesn't even realize without importers, they have nothing to download. In China's case though, they just want easy money from repaywalling it.

China is a real cancer for the Internet.

 

[Deleted member 3062954]

When is Kemono going to stop throttling downloads?

When we have enough servers to handle people doing an enormous amount of them simultaneously. Maybe this month if the planned upgrades happen and go well.

As far as I can tell, the importer still has trouble grabbing DMs (you can check this from recently grabbed artists). That's weird though as Patreon's broken system makes it rather easy, and no matter how much they'll pay using bugbounty or whatever - wouldn't even consider zerodium when moral ethics are under attack.

DMs have to be manually approved, so they are coming in more slowly - but they are indeed being archived.

 

[Thotfodder]

No clue, sorry, but good riddance if it's gone, that thing was some useless 4chan-tier thing.

Well I for one didn't mind commenting on it when it worked.
It was also the easiest way I could make requests.
Whatever they replace it with, I hope it's good because I haven't been able to make a request there in months.

 

[Thotfodder]

So... apparently kemono.party's forum was replaced with ThePornDude...
I don't know how I feel about that considering it's NOT a forum and just a bunch of links to websites where you CAN'T make requests or send feedback to kemono.party!

I guess I'm a little (for a lack of a better word) disappointed.

 

[Thotfodder]

g55
What's so goddamn funny!?

 

[Deleted member 3062954]

So... apparently kemono.party's forum was replaced with ThePornDude...
I don't know how I feel about that considering it's NOT a forum and just a bunch of links to websites where you CAN'T make requests or send feedback to kemono.party!

I guess I'm a little (for a lack of a better word) disappointed.

Not really "replaced," the link to Partychan was just removed because the board is non-functional.
A new discussion site is coming very soon.

 

[262177]

DMs have to be manually approved, so they are coming in more slowly - but they are indeed being archived.

Ah, alright. Yeah, figured there might be some... issues. Thanks for the reply on this Shino.

Well I for one didn't mind commenting on it when it worked.
It was also the easiest way I could make requests.
Whatever they replace it with, I hope it's good because I haven't been able to make a request there in months.

The placeholder

You must be registered to see the links

link on Kemono serves more or less the same purpose and is public if that's what you meant.

Sorry if my post was rude (and sorry again if this one is) but except for - as you mentioned - the stickied request thread, almost everything else was a standalone "please post X" or meme single-post thread. Discord isn't much better on that aspect, being 99% shitposting and reactions and 1% actual tech discussion + issues, way worse than Twitter itself.

Picture attachments are broken though and will only fetch pictures that already exist (if something is uploaded and has the same filename, it'll give the illusion it works, as filenames are uploaded as is instead of using at least some kind of hash) apparently.

Just noticed ThePornDude as well on top but thought it was for additional ad revenue.

(And yes, the requests being a placeholder isn't exactly much of an issue as people can't read a simple guide on how to grab an user ID, with bookmarklets or with a javascript snippet - or directly from the page source, really.)

 

[g55]

g55
What's so goddamn funny!?

Oh sorry, it's just that... Your rant, I just found it funny!

 

[Thotfodder]

Oh sorry, it's just that... Your rant, I just found it funny!

Wouldn't ranting imply that I was throwing a fit?
Because I wasn't throwing a fit.
I was calmly expressing my disappointment.
It IS possible you know.

 

[262177]

Not to play attention whore but feel free to laugh at mine too (if you aren't secretly laughing or facepalming already), I never get offended, much the opposite - and it's more than deserved.

On a more "serious" note though, if you bring something back KemonoDev, make sure you won't have to hire moderators and whatnot. Since it'll likely be on the surface, shit can go south rather fast (look at F95, and we're polite fellas - okay, we do shitpost occasionally, but *ahem* responsibly) and you don't really want to be involved with social bullshit when you're trying to create a pirate community scraping stuff. Hell, does the Discord still have that general thing? It's literally 99% memes, lol. You guys also need a separate channel for KP and MH, but that's just my opinion here. (There are many more open yiff clones so...)

It's a bit ambitious but if there's a way to check for multiposts (checking requests on Kemono right now gives me a headache, on top of people who didn't even read the instructions, things have been asked tons of times, and let's not even mention the free spam lol), that would also be nice - same user ID detected, return error and link to post that has the request. Doesn't prevent "user error" though, and a sanity check on whether X exists on service Y might attract attention a bit too soon depending on how you want to... make it "popular" this time around.

I also suppose Kemono won't be changing domain names? Not exactly a big deal, but there was a shit ton of furry on the old board. Nothing against the furry community or the kink (not a fan, but I don't judge) but this shouldn't exactly lead people to assume it's just for this, so... maybe make the announcement RD8K dug up more visible on the front page? (I'm sorry if I missed it and it was already super visible somehow.)

And a tl;dr if you can. We wall of texters know our shit is painful to read and there's, omigosh, like, one sentence in, like, the entire thing that makes some sense, I don't even! (Yes, I'm out. I'm not drunk or high though, just completely insane!)

and also because people never read the damn wiki, rip Joe

Edit: Grammar