Simple.
I am not "on the path" with Nina and thus technically got the choice.
However the choice about staying with Gloria is the only path were truly something happens.
Unless you count some screens where Gloria apparently is transformed into a frog, Zia and Connor talk a bit and you get another "choice" if you kiss Connor or not.
That's why as far as I'm concerned the choice is only decorative and with next to no substance.
Regardless of what you think objectively the wait for an update of 4 month was not worth it at all.
There is not much content in this update.
Simple.
I am not "on the path" with Nina and thus technically got the choice.
However the choice about staying with Gloria is the only path were truly something happens.
Unless you count some screens where Gloria apparently is transformed into a frog, Zia and Connor talk a bit and you get another "choice" if you kiss Connor or not.
That's why as far as I'm concerned the choice is only decorative and with next to no substance.
Regardless of what you think objectively the wait for an update of 4 month was not worth it at all.
There is not much content in this update.
1. Those choices literally sets the relationship variable to 3 (Connor), 4(Gloria) or leaves it at 0.
2. Whether or not there are choices is an objective statement of fact, so claiming without any modifiers like "meaningful to me" that there's "no choices" is... just objectively wrong.
3. Whether something is worth it or not, on the other hand, is a value judgement, and thus inherently deeply subjective.
If you don't like an update, a game, or whatever, cool. But please don't lie about the objective facts of a game.
yea, i saw all scenes, the most ridiculous one is some random chick fuck Zia with strap-on. Instead of give a proper straight scene as you said, you decided throw some random stuff
Just make this game pure lesbian instead of deceive people
That is not a threat mind you.
Patreon is extremely anal about Children and adult content even existing in the same universe. They are on a banning spree for all kinds of reasons, targeting adult creators. They are at it for well over 2 years by now.
Yes, a flashback of some girls with one of them later being shown to have sex is enough.
Hell merely a picture of a child is enough. Even if that child never in a million years is shown to have sex as an adult. For instance that is the reason why Corrupted Kingdoms was booted ...
lol the negativity of these comments makes me want to check the update out sooner im sure I will love it. While what was said about patron and children could be true I don't see it being an issue, not sure how true it is tbh. it feels like they are more likely to notice or go after games with other content first. But maybe the several AVN's I follow that would effect just has gone unnoticed.
lol the negativity of these comments makes me want to check the update out sooner im sure I will love it. While what was said about patron and children could be true I don't see it being an issue, not sure how true it is tbh. it feels like they are more likely to notice or go after games with other content first. But maybe the several AVN's I follow that would effect just has gone unnoticed.
By now the discussion about this and the evidence for it are numerous.
There are some ... workarounds in some cases.
For instance to avoid being banned from patreon Nudist School redressed the characters. Previously the girls were sporting a school uniform, in the last update he changed it to regular clothes. None of the girls are underage, but school uniforms are considered a sign of childhood according to patreon.
As said Corrupted Kingdoms was banned from patreon because of children pictures.
Notice that there is no link to a patreon page.
Look around at that is relatively common nowadays.
Not on every game mind you, not even on 50% of them (mostly because patreon has not found a legal reason yet) but not uncommon at all.
This game here has a section of child Zia and child Nina clearly underage when they first met. The adult Zia is shown to have sex in multiple scenes.
So yes, it is a problem.
By now the discussion about this and the evidence for it are numerous.
There are some ... workarounds in some cases.
For instance to avoid being banned from patreon Nudist School redressed the characters. Previously the girls were sporting a school uniform, in the last update he changed it to regular clothes. None of the girls are underage, but school uniforms are considered a sign of childhood according to patreon.
As said Corrupted Kingdoms was banned from patreon because of children pictures.
Notice that there is no link to a patreon page.
Look around at that is relatively common nowadays.
Not on every game mind you, not even on 50% of them (mostly because patreon has not found a legal reason yet) but not uncommon at all.
This game here has a section of child Zia and child Nina clearly underage when they first met. The adult Zia is shown to have sex in multiple scenes.
So yes, it is a problem.
I mean I didn't doubt it is an issue I was more saying it seems games that have other content they dislike are targeted more and tbh I forgot about that in this game unless it was in the update. But I still think it depends on how said games uses said children characters that's why I said i don't know how true it is just having the presence is enough. But maybe im wrong I never heard or played those games you mentioned before so I don't know how they were used. The only reason I doubt the presence is enough is I know some of the games I play are more popular have some in them even if it's just a flashback or whatever so I feel one of them would of been hit if the presence was enough. Unless it's low on their priority list and they go after other content first.
--IMPORTANT NOTE-- ZIA IS BISEXUAL!!!
The lesbian tag on the thread is in accordance with the site's definition - "Sexual acts between two or more females"
If you want a game that treats its female characters with care, and crafts a sincere "female-female" romance route as much as the "male-female" one - then you may like this VN.
But if your top priority is that the protagonist shouldn't be interested in any men, even in the slightest - then this game is not for you.
Look around at that is relatively common nowadays.
Not on every game mind you, not even on 50% of them (mostly because patreon has not found a legal reason yet) but not uncommon at all.
yea, i saw all scenes, the most ridiculous one is some random chick fuck Zia with strap-on. Instead of give a proper straight scene as you said, you decided throw some random stuff
Just make this game pure lesbian instead of deceive people
I'm going to take a stab at this to try and be helpful to the dev only. I have NEVER played this VN, I just came across it in the Latest updates so I have no dog in the fight as to it's content. This is to the Dev it just my OPINION trying to help but I know I should just STFU feel free to tell me so but it's an attempt to help.
MARKETING
Name - The Name of the Game tells you nothing and 3 letter VN's are hard to search for.
Title Image - Nothing really wrong with it but it's not exciting, at best it's just ok.
It definitely doesn't make the average person want to stop and see what this VN contains. I would change it.
Tags - 3dcgfemale protagonistlesbianparanormalromanceteasing Not one exciting Tag here. I think I found it because it has a female protagonist but that's about it. Then you click on the thread and all you see are people arguing about slow burn/no burn and the Lesbian only are fighting the people wanting to see some hetero action.
Sample Pics - You have 7 pictures showcasing the art style, but again telling us nothing at all about the game or the hot scenes we may see.
The only thing I consider well done from a marketing standpoint is your OVERVIEW Overview:
Zia is a modern-day witch, hiding in plain sight as a stage magician.
But when the world of magic slowly starts bleeding into the ordinary,
Zia will have to make some pretty tough decisions that will change the course of her life.
Follow her story in this long-spanning saga filled with suspense, magic and wonder.
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It sounds very interesting it sounds fun! It sounds like a game I would be interested in downloading and playing and possibly subscribing to if the other factors were more interesting.
Make a decision, if you really want a lesbian game then make one if you really want it hetero then make it hetero, do not let people on this board dictate where your story leads. Listen to the people that are actively supporting you as a sub but that's it.
This VN has been around since January 2023, and it has less than a dozen pages and it's making $60 a month, If the story you want to tell aligns with only a few people but you don't want to deviate then get a day job and make this a hobby. If you want to make bank, pay rent and not have a day job try to get a feel for tags people are searching for and build from there.
Now I will STFU, these are just my opinions from someone who accidentally came across this title and started reading comments and felt bad you are only making $60 that sucks, creating a title takes more time and effort than the average user here even realizes and you should be rewarded for your work. Bad marketing can kill a VN faster than bad writing in my opinion.
Good Luck and I wish you success. If you feel like chatting further drop me a PM.
I'm going to take a stab at this to try and be helpful to the dev only.
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Good Luck and I wish you success. If you feel like chatting further drop me a PM.
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
I've now added additional tags on my end, but I don't know how or when it will reflect in the thread's tag section.
I'll also add more screenshots with the intimate scenes later today.
As for the other two things,
- I've never altered the story based on the whims and wants of others. And I'll only continue to stick to my vision. So, no worries there.
- I know this game is not going to be a financial super hit. (Me being broke is on me, not this game.) But I was just venting out my frustration at the claim that I was somehow tricking people and lying to them, when all I'm trying to do is tell a story I'm passionate about.
But if the game gets booted despite having only consensual scenes, I'm afraid I have no solution. I'll simply have to pack my bags and leave. I sincerely hope it doesn't come down to that.
But if the game gets booted despite having only consensual adult scenes, I'm afraid I have no solution. I'll simply have to pack my bags and leave. I sincerely hope it doesn't come down to that.
From my knowledge and Patreon being Patreon, it could happen. Some of the devs have a plan B, some of them are on Subscribestar and so on. But with every platform and their terms and conditions, if they are too unspecific and you are in the gray, all shit can happen.
This is the writer of Zia, here to address some of the concerns regarding the latest update of the game, and share a few more important details.
Please feel free to jump directly to points 3 & 4, if you already like the game.
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1. The waiting period is too long / the update is short.
I'm sincerely sorry, but Sarnko (The artist) and I really are trying our best to work efficiently within the limitations of our personal & professional lives.
I don't want to bore you with the details of my sad life, but just know that nobody wants bigger updates at a faster schedule than us.
Unfortunately, this is just the speed in which we can deliver the updates right now. And we're in no way trying to deliberately delay the releases.
We had also properly informed our patrons about the increased development time months ago. And only after they voted for it, did we choose this longer release schedule.
2. The straight content isn't as promininent as the lesbian content
The only reason this has happened is due to the fact that Conner has been the primary partner for the straight route.
Unlike Nina, a childhood friend she already shares a strong bond with, Conner is a stranger who needed the time to build the connection with her.
Additionally, unlike Gloria or Nick, who is very open and romantically forward, Conner is more straight-laced and slightly reserved. So, he doesn't take any giant initiatives by himself.
So, I'm sorry if my promise about the straight content in 0.5 didn't meet your expectations, but I genuinely believed that officially kicking off Conner’s relationship with Zia was a milestone event. But I've come to realize that for anyone expecting full-on romantic content, it could have been a disappointing update.
IF you can give this game another chance, I'd humbly request you to stay with us just for one more update... as
3. For anyone who wants a good female-female romance, I personally think the Nina route is at its finest with this update. So, I highly recommend checking it out.
4. Lastly, about the overall story of Zia,
While the game will work perfectly fine (as a stand-alone experience) on any of the routes, I've carefully split some interesting information about the world and the characters across each route.
And so, those who try all the routes are bound to have a lot more info (and hopefully fun).
With 0.6 coming up, we're also entering the second half of Season One. (Which, judging by the financial performance, will also be the last & only Season.)
So, you can expect the big mysteries to gradually unravel from hereon.
Just to clarify, ending at Season One DOES NOT mean the game is going to be cut short.
Right from the very beginning, the plan was to tell a stand-alone story with season one, and if it does well, the story will be expanded into seasons two & three.
So, if anyone's worried about that, then rest easy. Season one will have a proper ending to the story.
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That's everything I can share as of now. I'll drop by once in a while to answer any other doubts or concerns anyone. But for now, this is goodbye.
P.S: To those who liked the game so far, but are unable to (or don't wish to) support it financially...
Kindly consider leaving a review, or even sharing a comment about what you liked about Zia, as it'll really help us not just in promoting the game, but most importantly in keeping us motivated.
