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WOMANpukumaru

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The only way I see this coming out without being a it silly is a new character with a new cast. If not what we get is him dragging around a house full of characters with completed stories on top of the new girls.
 

Evangelion-01

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Did they just....sequel bait us?

After months maybe even a year of...basically no story progress, we finally get some and it’s not even a satisfying conclusion but a sequel bait that ends basically right at the point where an ending would be good?

There’s not much more they can do with “magic stone turns people into fantasy monsters that rape” we’re going to a city, so we might end up getting an even more direct AZL knockoff.

Okay. It’s porn and this means more porn. I guess we’ll be getting more girls (hey maybe we’ll get more blonde clones!)But we now have an entire harem full of characters with completed stories just hanging around with nothing to do.

A sequel bait is just the most wonky decision they can make at this particular point.
You forgot that the announcement said it was only a placeholder for now and that 2 more Updates are comeing before the work on the sequel even starts... so yeah at this point they advertise a sequel in order to keep their Patreons before the project ends... not uncommon and actually smart
 

Mundi

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Little question :

I see that here it is version 14.1.

But on itch.io, you can download version 14.4. There is a difference between all these versions apart from the Z-choice?
 

Viressa

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Little question :

I see that here it is version 14.1.

But on itch.io, you can download version 14.4. There is a difference between all these versions apart from the Z-choice?
Just bug fixes. If you've already played it, don't bother: If you haven't, grab the newest version from itch.io.
 

WOMANpukumaru

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You forgot that the announcement said it was only a placeholder for now and that 2 more Updates are comeing before the work on the sequel even starts... so yeah at this point they advertise a sequel in order to keep their Patreons before the project ends... not uncommon and actually smart
Is that really smart? You should I’ll have whatever downtime between this and the new game unless you’re working on both at once(along with your other projects)

It still ends on unsatisfying sequel bait ending. Seems like you announce the sequel before the ending of this game. That way people know what to expect.
 

Evangelion-01

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Is that really smart? You should I’ll have whatever downtime between this and the new game unless you’re working on both at once(along with your other projects)

It still ends on unsatisfying sequel bait ending. Seems like you announce the sequel before the ending of this game. That way people know what to expect.
...the game is comeing close to an end... there is a chance that Patrons will leave once the game is completed as they won't see anymore content for the game they decided to support.
Once gone it's harder to lure them back... many would probably like to see a demo of the new game before coming back...
But now people that enjoy the game know that a sequel is comeing and they get enough informations about it's content without seeing a demo first... it's more likely that fans stay around and donate while they work on the sequel.
and how would you have ended the game? the ending you are complaining about starts just after the last battle... if Siren had decided to stop the game there it would have been the most underwhelming Update so far... but he couldn't just jump to the endings either as that would have required him to flesh out all routes for all characters and wirte stories for each ending... let alone the artistic part of it.
It might not be the best way to end this part of the game but the way I see it the only alternative he had was postponing the Update until all that stuff was done... which would have hurt him more I suppose
 
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WOMANpukumaru

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...the game is comeing close to an end... there is a chance that Patrons will leave once the game is completed as they won't see anymore content for the game they decided to support.
Once gone it's harder to lure them back... many would probably like to see a demo of the new game before coming back...
But now people that enjoy the game know that a sequel is comeing and they get enough informations about it's content without seeing a demo first... it's more likely that fans stay around and donate while they work on the sequel.
and how would you have ended the game? the ending you are complaining about starts just after the last battle... if Siren had decided to stop the game there it would have been the most underwhelming Update so far... but he couldn't just jump to the endings either as that would have required him to flesh out all routes for all characters and wirte stories for each ending... let alone the artistic part of it.
It might not be the best way to end this part of the game but the way I see it the only alternative he had was postponing the Update until all that stuff was done... which would have hurt him more I suppose
.......I.....would have......ended the game after resolving the story that has been set up this whole time....

It seemed like the game was coming close to an end, except we don’t confront the main villains and resolve the plot because apparently he wants to do more....so just...do more? Why leave the game at a cliffhanger and “risk patrons not coming back?”


I’m not even sure it’s a good a idea to even do a sequel to a game like this in the first place, and the patrons will come if you make another game(how’d you get the one you have?)

It’s also possible to leave things open for a sequel while giving a real conclusion.

By any chance are you that guy stubbornly ranting at me when I said the game has clunky controls? Because if so, it’s completely useless trying to communicate with you.
 

Viressa

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My guess on the reason for a sequel instead of extending the existing game is the creator wants a chance for a do-over on some of these game mechanics, without having to worry about re-doing existing content to match. Easiest way to do that is with a fresh game at a natural breakpoint in the plot. (And frankly, I completely support this, the combat and resource management aspects of this game are horrendous and add nothing. It's too much to hope that they'll be removed entirely in the sequel but an overhaul to make them less bad would be very welcome.)

Another reason could be concern about the size getting too big: This is the reason games like DmD are broken up into multiple games, after all, but ZR1 is barely 700 MB and RPGM can handle much larger projects than this before things start to get unwieldy.

Finally, a third reason could be to cull the herd of waifus: I doubt he'll get rid of the incest trio, but I could see wanting to get rid of girls like Natasha or Talia and start fresh with a new batch. You could do this without a new game, though, but I guess it dodges the people asking "where's new content for [favorite character]?"
 

zeoabyss23

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My guess on the reason for a sequel instead of extending the existing game is the creator wants a chance for a do-over on some of these game mechanics, without having to worry about re-doing existing content to match. Easiest way to do that is with a fresh game at a natural breakpoint in the plot. (And frankly, I completely support this, the combat and resource management aspects of this game are horrendous and add nothing. It's too much to hope that they'll be removed entirely in the sequel but an overhaul to make them less bad would be very welcome.)

Another reason could be concern about the size getting too big: This is the reason games like DmD are broken up into multiple games, after all, but ZR1 is barely 700 MB and RPGM can handle much larger projects than this before things start to get unwieldy.

Finally, a third reason could be to cull the herd of waifus: I doubt he'll get rid of the incest trio, but I could see wanting to get rid of girls like Natasha or Talia and start fresh with a new batch. You could do this without a new game, though, but I guess it dodges the people asking "where's new content for [favorite character]?"
I think I saw one time on one of the creator's comment that the sequel will have a brand new set of characters meaning the protagonist will also be new
 

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Here's a walkthrough for all of the 0.14 content.
Also saves are attached for all of the scenes available.

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EDIT: Here's the latest changelog for v0.14.4:
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Basically there's not any new content, but if you reload save 8 you have the new Z-Choice:
- Your choice has a permanent affect on the story line, so there is an option to save as well.

1) Two People - NTR Route with L-001. He will likely fuck some or all of the other girls you are with in the house.
2) Just One - Only the MC and Ann exist (like how it should be). No NTR!

Also if you have sex with Ann at Night at the Hidden Lab she allows you to stay over and keep going. (Save 11 in save.rar)
Thank Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 

westonvirus

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I think I saw one time on one of the creator's comment that the sequel will have a brand new set of characters meaning the protagonist will also be new
I hope they at least make a cameo in ZR2. They talked about leaving the Island and going to the city, it might be further advanced in the last 2 updates or they could end being somewhere else in ZR2.
 

Viressa

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I think I saw one time on one of the creator's comment that the sequel will have a brand new set of characters meaning the protagonist will also be new
That would make sense as a reason to start over with a new game, but the epilogue from this update makes it pretty clear the protagonist intends to go to Crimson City and continue the story, so it'd be very weird if there was a complete replacement of the cast. But not impossible I guess.
 
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zeoabyss23

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That would make sense as a reason to start over with a new game, but the epilogue from this update makes it pretty clear the protagonist intends to go to Crimson City and continue the story, so it'd be very weird if there was a complete replacement of the cast. But not impossible I guess.
Well, let's just wait for the next 2 updates so we can get a clear picture of what's in store for the sequel.
 

beryn

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How do you get scrap rubber, been scavenging around 10 times now(20 days) in a row, without finding any.
Only rubber i found was from the two tire stacks.
 

BackRunner

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.... Anyone remembered that this used to be only something of a side thing for Town of Passion get more time polishing between updates?
 
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