Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 54] [CSDev]

[Ragsmu]

WOW thank you, it definitely works but i still don't 100% understand why it worked. Can you explain your train of thought maybe? Like, why Threaten Pariah in the middle even though I kinda focus Steadfast instead, why surround Hope without Humiliating her (why bother? Doesn't give boni does it?), etc. I feel like I don't understand a lot of boni that I could get. How do you figure that out?

Pariah Turn is throwaway turn. There is nothing to do and you might as well skip it - so i use it to build some trauma on Pariah in advance.

Hope slime and 1 turn Surround - this is actually core thing to understand, You see as long as chosen was captured prior to extermination timing reaching 100% - they wont fly away after their surround end and can be captured for 1 more time. But if no one is captured on the field and extermination is 100% the battle will end. so i synchronized 1 turn surround with the moment when Steadfast's surround ends (hence the throwaway turn on Pariah, i needed 1 to slime Hope, and 1 to surround her. but there was 3 turns available) that 1 turns surround prolongs the battle and gives me an opportunity to surround steadfast for the last time.

There is upgrade that prolongs battle by 1 turn and spares you the trouble, but as others mentioned even then that short surround on Hope will make last surround on Steadfast Longer due to how threaten damage works. (only provides surround when someone else is surrounded)

 

[SuperSkippy]

Stuck in a softlock loop with a vignette: (R38C)

Spoiler: lots of repeats

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Pressing continue just repeats as above.

 

[alex2011]

Using the basic attacks to boost a damage up to the next tier for longer surrounds can be useful even late in an encounter, especially if you have the free time and it's the last surround you can do on her, if you can do it in few enough actions.

Never focus on only one girl once you have a two or three capture commander, partly because they'll do stuff to disrupt you, like Distract (some Chosen are better at it than others, I think I've seen up to 42% circ damage reduction? Super annoying), and the more you hit them the easier it is to work on the girl you're aiming at. Subjugation doesn't go up if all three Chosen are captured (though they will start storing power for big hits once freed after evac is complete to stop you stalling forever) so it's always worthwhile to juggle as many of them as you can manage, sometimes just capturing one to stop her doing anything can be the right play, especially since only two girls expo matters.

Adding to this, whenever possible and no actions directly aiming at the Chosen are available, raise the barrier. The extra percentage in damage does help to mitigate the nullification from Chosen actions to a degree, especially if you can get it above the highest percentage of blocked damage.

 

[Ragsmu]

raise the barrier.

that assuming that barrier is researched, which is not in this case.

 

[alex2011]

that assuming that barrier is researched, which is not in this case.

True, though I wasn't speaking to any specific case, it was more generally speaking than anything.

 

[Ragsmu]

True, though I wasn't speaking to any specific case, it was more generally speaking than anything.

Well, i know that there is Barrier upgrade so its fine, but on the other hand if someone new had read your comment - they would have no idea what are you talking about

 

[alex2011]

Well, i know that there is Barrier upgrade so its fine, but on the other hand if someone new had read your comment - they would have no idea what are you talking about

When in battle under the circumstances I specified, there is only one option.

no actions directly aiming at the Chosen are available

No options with the Chosen means they are either surrounded or captured, so you cannot interact with them.

whenever possible

This means whenever the option appears while the other thing I quoted is happening. It would be the only button and the text is there that specifically says barrier, so it shouldn't be confusing.

 

[MaximilianArthous]

Pariah Turn is throwaway turn. There is nothing to do and you might as well skip it - so i use it to build some trauma on Pariah in advance.

Hope slime and 1 turn Surround - this is actually core thing to understand, You see as long as chosen was captured prior to extermination timing reaching 100% - they wont fly away after their surround end and can be captured for 1 more time. But if no one is captured on the field and extermination is 100% the battle will end. so i synchronized 1 turn surround with the moment when Steadfast's surround ends (hence the throwaway turn on Pariah, i needed 1 to slime Hope, and 1 to surround her. but there was 3 turns available) that 1 turns surround prolongs the battle and gives me an opportunity to surround steadfast for the last time.

There is upgrade that prolongs battle by 1 turn and spares you the trouble, but as others mentioned even then that short surround on Hope will make last surround on Steadfast Longer due to how threaten damage works. (only provides surround when someone else is surrounded)

I'm kinda getting the drill now. Started a new game, now at day 31 but this time I got everyone up to G and even T levels in trauma. Got them into an endless cycle of surrounds at some point which is REALLY OP. Didn't even think of that because I didn't realise that evacuation and the other thing isn't going up when everyone is surrounded.

 

[irrelevant4123]

Not sure if anyone has pointed it out, but Justice and Cheer have the same portraits in the Patience image pack (the AI gen one). Iirc previous versions had a different look for Justice.

 

[Ragsmu]

I'm kinda getting the drill now. Started a new game, now at day 31 but this time I got everyone up to G and even T levels in trauma. Got them into an endless cycle of surrounds at some point which is REALLY OP. Didn't even think of that because I didn't realise that evacuation and the other thing isn't going up when everyone is surrounded.

If you want a benchmark on how fast you need to be in early game with close to perfect play. on day 15 there is an interview event that changes depending on how far cores are broken on girls. You get the most out of it when all t2 cores are broken by turn 15. If you can reach this level of proficiency in unrestricted break - you can move onto distortions i would say.

By the way in case of resistant Chosen such break might not be possible, in the time frame. but in general if core looks like ---/- it should be breakable by turn 15. another point to look at is how much trauma damage you deal to core stat with normal actions. if it's 70/80 (without upgrades) it means that it is breakable 85-90 is unlikely 90-100 is extremely unlikely.

For early game
1) Make sure to prolong each battle as long as you can. Number of turns affect how fast new Chosen arrive. You can have 3 of them by the start of turn 7.
2) Make sure that as each new girl appears you deal 200 of any kind of trauma onto her, so she provides 1 EE right away.
those points make early game EE economy much easier.

 

[MaximilianArthous]

If you want a benchmark on how fast you need to be in early game with close to perfect play. on day 15 there is an interview event that changes depending on how far cores are broken on girls. You get the most out of it when all t2 cores are broken by turn 15. If you can reach this level of proficiency in unrestricted break - you can move onto distortions i would say.

By the way in case of resistant Chosen such break might not be possible, in the time frame. but in general if core looks like ---/- it should be breakable by turn 15. another point to look at is how much trauma damage you deal to core stat with normal actions. if it's 70/80 (without upgrades) it means that it is breakable 85-90 is unlikely 90-100 is extremely unlikely.

For early game
1) Make sure to prolong each battle as long as you can. Number of turns affect how fast new Chosen arrive. You can have 3 of them by the start of turn 7.
2) Make sure that as each new girl appears you deal 200 of any kind of trauma onto her, so she provides 1 EE right away.
those points make early game EE economy much easier.

A few more questions, as I'm now in the late game, how do I focus on paratism, hypnosis etc. I think that the Chosens use an ability that increases e.g. hypnosis if pleasure goes up and parastism if expo goes up but how do I focus these elements down? Right now I kinda get lucky every now and then and e.g. paratism goes up on the chosen where I want a Dignity T4 break but that of course only happens if (more or less) randomly the expo goes up during the fight.

They don't use these abilities while surrounded/captured so I'm trying to get a circumstance relatively high on on chosen and then get them out of the surround while the others are surrounded so that the chosen I focused before has time to cast those abilities that increase her paratism percentage.

There is most definitely a way to focus one of those things down but I'm just not sure how.

Also, what's the point of commanders with suppressors, defilers and punishers? I get that the punisher is used to break T4s when those abilities reach 1000% but is there any use other than that? And yeah, same question for suppressor and defiler.

If i get this i think I understand the important parts of the game now.

 

[Ragsmu]

A few more questions, as I'm now in the late game, how do I focus on paratism, hypnosis etc. I think that the Chosens use an ability that increases e.g. hypnosis if pleasure goes up and parastism if expo goes up but how do I focus these elements down? Right now I kinda get lucky every now and then and e.g. paratism goes up on the chosen where I want a Dignity T4 break but that of course only happens if (more or less) randomly the expo goes up during the fight.

They don't use these abilities while surrounded/captured so I'm trying to get a circumstance relatively high on on chosen and then get them out of the surround while the others are surrounded so that the chosen I focused before has time to cast those abilities that increase her paratism percentage.

There is most definitely a way to focus one of those things down but I'm just not sure how.

Also, what's the point of commanders with suppressors, defilers and punishers? I get that the punisher is used to break T4s when those abilities reach 1000% but is there any use other than that? And yeah, same question for suppressor and defiler.

If i get this i think I understand the important parts of the game now.

This post have decent enough explanation of the strategy.

As for specialized commanders - they can be used in mixed setups to do distortion corruption (Distortion corruption forbids you from breaking 2 certain stats on the girls so more focused approach can be a ticket out of that hole) and even in total corruption you can do lategame setups that use Defiler+Suppressor+Punisher for commander that breaks all 4 stats at the same time.

If i get this i think I understand the important parts of the game now.

Wait till you get to Forsaken~

 

[Karnewarrior]

Aren't endless surrounds rather less than endless? Since the chosen have that unblockable damage to the horde they deal when they break free.

That's usually the cap on how long I can keep them for. After a 20 turn surround one chosen breaking free usually fills the extermination bar, so everyone goes for a fly and are inaccessible.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

I am sure I missed tags. Please let us know what is missing so it can be added. Have fun perverts

It's been a long time since. Here's some tags to add:

Oral sex, vaginal sex, forced orgasm, tickling, bondage, living clothes, hypnosis, humiliation, pregnancy, rape, slave, virgin



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On a seperate note, why isn't there an optional research that allows specialised commanders to order a surround (in essence: having choice to do a normal surround or a specialised surround if the commander is free)? Specialised commanders are such a niche, with forsaken being generally cheaper if trained well and normal commanders being much easier to manage and plan.

 

[mathiau]

It's been a long time since. Here's some tags to add:

Oral sex, vaginal sex, forced orgasm, tickling, bondage, living clothes, hypnosis, humiliation, pregnancy, rape, slave, virgin



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On a seperate note, why isn't there an optional research that allows specialised commanders to order a surround (in essence: having choice to do a normal surround or a specialised surround if the commander is free)? Specialised commanders are such a niche, with forsaken being generally cheaper if trained well and normal commanders being much easier to manage and plan.

Also Incest
Is there a tag for M-preg that exists?

 

[irrelevant4123]

Animalistic Chosen seem to just break the game when another chosen is captured by a Forsaken. Clicking the "Continue" button to go to from the captured Chosen's action to theirs will do nothing and will require a restart. I'm not sure if the creator lurks here but blogger is no longer letting me access his page unless I agree to their draconian age verification. I have a savefile that can easily replicate the bug if necessary.

 

[Name36346]

I have a savefile that can easily replicate the bug if necessary.

Post it. Creator drops in regularly.

 

[MoarDakka123]

More specifically, he(?) tends to come here around every update, which is about once a month, which would be... within the next week or two, I think.

 

[irrelevant4123]

Alright, the save in question is the Loop 5 Toyama - Day 9 versus Calamity, Mayhem, and Dash, easiest way to replicate it is to just start with the loaded setup (Cheer + INJU artillery item) on Mayhem. Capture in the first turn, Dash will arrive during the last turn of Mayhem's capture and brick the continue button. Can also start with Calamity and then capture Mayhem as soon as initial capture finishes, which is how I discovered this bug, but it's slightly more complex.

 

[irrelevant4123]

Really sucks cause that city had the broken psychometer and was overall easier than the second option.