ShangTsung

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Aug 6, 2017
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Hi everyone,

For those of you who don't know me, I'm the writer for the game.

I just wanted to make a short announcement regarding Caroline.


*There are some minor spoilers for 0.4 included within this post, so I would urge you to read at your own caution.*

I've been given some leeway to write scenes as I see fit based upon the images provided. In some instances, this has allowed me to develop characters' backstories beyond what ICSTOR had originally designed or envisioned.

In this instance I chose for Caroline to have several ex-boyfriends given that she's a young woman in her mid-twenties. It only seemed natural that she would have had some previous relationships by that age. I didn't anticipate that it would lead to a backlash in any way. I strongly disagree with some individuals' claims that she is "the town bicycle" or a "slut," but I'm not here to start an argument.

One of the purposes of Caroline's exes was to provide a sharp contrast of how they treated her, compared with how the player treats her. The nightclub scene served as an example of such. Gradually, as Caroline and the player do more together she realises that nothing is the same as it was with her exes. She gets butterflies in her belly with every kiss, she experiences pleasure that past partners never gave to her, and she learns that she might be able to have a healthy romantic relationship with the player.

Another reason I chose this is because I felt it fitted well with her character. Caroline is a character who strives for maturity and independence (Granted, she can't always achieve her goals on her own). It made sense for her to be proactive in her social life, as well as her work life. This is why I wrote her character as having multiple previous relationships.

The final reason is that Caroline is a character who enjoys sex. She's more than happy to use it as a reward for the player when they assist her in her shop. Why would such a character who is both fiercely independent and
positive about sex choose NOT to date and try to find a boyfriend?

I do apologise if you are unhappy with how Caroline's backstory has developed. Any blame for that lies entirely with myself, and not with ICSTOR. At present, I am working with ICSTOR to make small alterations, including editing away references to multiple previous partners. Thankfully, in this medium of art, nothing is set in stone and adjustments can quickly and easily be made to resolve potential issues.

The most productive conversation that can probably be had regarding this is: Are you happy with any of the women having former partners? (Obviously some like Linda require at least one former partner for logic's sake.)

If the answer is a resolute 'no', then I know I can irk away from it during future versions of this game.

I'll remain around for the next hour or so to answer questions - but it's an extremely active thread, so if I don't get back to you I'm probably swamped replying to other users.

you did an excellent job my friend , don't doubt ; some people don't want fresh content they prefer the same stories over and over.
 

Valoryn

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Jul 13, 2018
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Hi everyone,

For those of you who don't know me, I'm the writer for the game.

I just wanted to make a short announcement regarding Caroline.


*There are some minor spoilers for 0.4 included within this post, so I would urge you to read at your own caution.*

I've been given some leeway to write scenes as I see fit based upon the images provided. In some instances, this has allowed me to develop characters' backstories beyond what ICSTOR had originally designed or envisioned.

In this instance I chose for Caroline to have several ex-boyfriends given that she's a young woman in her mid-twenties. It only seemed natural that she would have had some previous relationships by that age. I didn't anticipate that it would lead to a backlash in any way. I strongly disagree with some individuals' claims that she is "the town bicycle" or a "slut," but I'm not here to start an argument.

One of the purposes of Caroline's exes was to provide a sharp contrast of how they treated her, compared with how the player treats her. The nightclub scene served as an example of such. Gradually, as Caroline and the player do more together she realises that nothing is the same as it was with her exes. She gets butterflies in her belly with every kiss, she experiences pleasure that past partners never gave to her, and she learns that she might be able to have a healthy romantic relationship with the player.

Another reason I chose this is because I felt it fitted well with her character. Caroline is a character who strives for maturity and independence (Granted, she can't always achieve her goals on her own). It made sense for her to be proactive in her social life, as well as her work life. This is why I wrote her character as having multiple previous relationships.

The final reason is that Caroline is a character who enjoys sex. She's more than happy to use it as a reward for the player when they assist her in her shop. Why would such a character who is both fiercely independent and
positive about sex choose NOT to date and try to find a boyfriend?

I do apologise if you are unhappy with how Caroline's backstory has developed. Any blame for that lies entirely with myself, and not with ICSTOR. At present, I am working with ICSTOR to make small alterations, including editing away references to multiple previous partners. Thankfully, in this medium of art, nothing is set in stone and adjustments can quickly and easily be made to resolve potential issues.

The most productive conversation that can probably be had regarding this is: Are you happy with any of the women having former partners? (Obviously some like Linda require at least one former partner for logic's sake.)

If the answer is a resolute 'no', then I know I can irk away from it during future versions of this game.

I'll remain around for the next hour or so to answer questions - but it's an extremely active thread, so if I don't get back to you I'm probably swamped replying to other users.
This is just a guess on my part as to why there were somewhat negative impacts on Caroline compared to Linda.

Liza told the MC that Linda was very sexual during her youth (she still actually is with the MC) and swinging both ways at that but she never stated any number and/or sexual activities done to become a reference when a person is to use his imagination.

Caroline on the other hand tells the MC about her exes, flings, and other types of relationships she's had with men including the sexual activities she's had and the situations that led to such activities. There was a lot of information that could swarm a person's imagination hence the various judgments posted in this thread about Caroline. One posted that I think was on the mark was "Too much information". In my opinion, Caroline's backstory is beautiful in its own right. The way that backstory was presented caused many negative opinions about Caroline causing her to be misunderstood.

Comparing the presentation of Linda's and Caroline's past. Linda's didn't cause an "uproar" compared to Caroline's and to think that both their past sexual encounters were relatively the same (Linda's past might've been a hell lot wilder).
 
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Meridian

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We all knew that Caroline was experienced girl even before 0.4. Do icstor really need to have her brag about her sexual skills at every opportunity? Its cute at first but if you keep her doing it all the time its becoming obnoxious. And amount of references to her exes during sex scenes with mc are a bit unsettling. It's really not a right place for that.
 
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jackkane

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Sep 4, 2016
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will 0.5 wrap up this game like milf's villa,and ic 2? where's the incest patch for 0.5? I only see one for 0.2.
 

ELTACO

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Jun 26, 2018
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Was enjoying this until the stupid fucking climbing game, another one for the recycle bin. Seriously who downloads a porn/seduction game and says to themselves..."OOoooo I hope there's some annoying mini games in it, before I can see a tit.or watch some HLA"...
 
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Gwinb777

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Mar 8, 2018
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Hi everyone,

For those of you who don't know me, I'm the writer for the game.

I just wanted to make a short announcement regarding Caroline.


*There are some minor spoilers for 0.4 included within this post, so I would urge you to read at your own caution.*

I've been given some leeway to write scenes as I see fit based upon the images provided. In some instances, this has allowed me to develop characters' backstories beyond what ICSTOR had originally designed or envisioned.

In this instance I chose for Caroline to have several ex-boyfriends given that she's a young woman in her mid-twenties. It only seemed natural that she would have had some previous relationships by that age. I didn't anticipate that it would lead to a backlash in any way. I strongly disagree with some individuals' claims that she is "the town bicycle" or a "slut," but I'm not here to start an argument.

One of the purposes of Caroline's exes was to provide a sharp contrast of how they treated her, compared with how the player treats her. The nightclub scene served as an example of such. Gradually, as Caroline and the player do more together she realises that nothing is the same as it was with her exes. She gets butterflies in her belly with every kiss, she experiences pleasure that past partners never gave to her, and she learns that she might be able to have a healthy romantic relationship with the player.

Another reason I chose this is because I felt it fitted well with her character. Caroline is a character who strives for maturity and independence (Granted, she can't always achieve her goals on her own). It made sense for her to be proactive in her social life, as well as her work life. This is why I wrote her character as having multiple previous relationships.

The final reason is that Caroline is a character who enjoys sex. She's more than happy to use it as a reward for the player when they assist her in her shop. Why would such a character who is both fiercely independent and
positive about sex choose NOT to date and try to find a boyfriend?

I do apologise if you are unhappy with how Caroline's backstory has developed. Any blame for that lies entirely with myself, and not with ICSTOR. At present, I am working with ICSTOR to make small alterations, including editing away references to multiple previous partners. Thankfully, in this medium of art, nothing is set in stone and adjustments can quickly and easily be made to resolve potential issues.

The most productive conversation that can probably be had regarding this is: Are you happy with any of the women having former partners? (Obviously some like Linda require at least one former partner for logic's sake.)

If the answer is a resolute 'no', then I know I can irk away from it during future versions of this game.

I'll remain around for the next hour or so to answer questions - but it's an extremely active thread, so if I don't get back to you I'm probably swamped replying to other users.
First, thank you and ICSTOR for developing this wonderful game and this amazing update in particular.
Second, I couldn't agree more, having several relationships is perfectly consistent with Caroline's character, all in all for a girl/young woman in her 25 or so who have had, let's say 10-15 partners, is not that rare and it's not enough to consider her a slut IMO. So I think you should not change this detail about Caroline's past just to make happy some who has been disappointed or doesn't agree with you about the way you created her background. She experienced a lot of sex with a lot of parnters, but they were just infatuations and/or just physical relationships (and if they were all like the one we saw at the nightclub then they were a bunch of jerks), on the contrary Caroline's relationship with the MC is much deeper than that, putting aside his physic traits matching her ideal man, she's experiencing love for the first time in her life and I think that's why she keeps mention her past boyfriends, even though it is rare for a woman (if a girl dumps you, you are already forgotten almost every time), but for Caroline it's totally new, she sees the difference netween then and now and she is surprised, also sharing her past experineces is a way of trust, she knows that MC won't judge her because he loves her as she loves him.
Again I don't think you should change anything about her or her past.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Was enjoying this until the stupid fucking climbing game, another one for the recycle bin. Seriously who downloads a porn/seduction game and says to themselves..."OOoooo I hope there's some annoying mini games in it, before I can see a tit.or watch some HLA"...
Really? How hard can it be? You just need to click in the yellow area. ::|:
I am getting an error when i try to use the backpack
Learn to read the open thread next time.;)
 
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Deminious

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Aug 25, 2018
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Getting this error when accessing big sisters room at all nights after accessing her room the first time



I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 485, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
File "game/scripts/gui/inventory.rpy", line 128, in __call__
ValueError: list.remove(x): x not in list

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "scripts/home/corridor/night/labels_corridor_night.rpyc", line 15, in script
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\ast.py", line 1775, in execute
self.call("execute")
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\ast.py", line 1763, in call
return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\statements.py", line 163, in call
return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 485, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\exports.py", line 2612, in call_screen
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse="screen", type="screen", roll_forward=roll_forward)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\ui.py", line 287, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\core.py", line 2553, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\core.py", line 3237, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\layout.py", line 969, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\transition.py", line 45, in event
return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\layout.py", line 969, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\layout.py", line 969, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\screen.py", line 653, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\layout.py", line 969, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 897, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 832, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 299, in run
new_rv = run(i, *args, **kwargs)
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 306, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "game/scripts/gui/inventory.rpy", line 128, in __call__
File "D:\GAMES\Milfy City 0.1\renpy\python.py", line 631, in do_mutation
return method(self, *args, **kwargs)
ValueError: list.remove(x): x not in list

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 6.99.13.2919
Milfy City 0.1
I got this to. What do we do anyone >>>????
 
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