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affeimzoo

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Well that should appease people, played the changes. Instead of saying "3-4 guys" Caroline now says "my ex" (this as the original response is a answer to MC's question) and makes a point of saying "lets stop talking about him. I want to forget that time". Happy now?
Did they also changed the interaction between Caroline and her friend Violet who blows MC for making up a favor?

She mentions she will let Caroline do the same to some of her male friends which in my opinion made Caroline a whore just like Violet. I thought the perfect response would have been something like:

"She will pay me back somehow but she would never do something like this. She can be wild but she wont do sexual favors without feelings involved."

Thats more the older sister i envisioned.
 
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Did they also changed the interaction between Caroline and her friend Violet who blows MC for making up a favor?

She mentions she will let Caroline do the same to some of her male friends which in my opinion made Caroline a whore just like Violet. I thought the perfect response would have been something like:

"She will pay me back somehow but she would never do something like this. She can be wild but she wont do sexual favors without feelings involved."

Thats more the older sister i envisioned.
Violet saying she'd get Caroline to do something and Caroline actually agreeing to do it are two different things. Violet agreeing to it says more about Violet than anything. I felt like the whole Violet BJ thing wasn't really something Caroline would normally involve herself in despite what Violet said and it was more a desperate attempt to distance herself emotionally from MC.
 

affeimzoo

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Violet saying she'd get Caroline to do something and Caroline actually agreeing to do it are two different things. Violet agreeing to it says more about Violet than anything. I felt like the whole Violet BJ thing wasn't really something Caroline would normally involve herself in despite what Violet said and it was more a desperate attempt to distance herself emotionally from MC.
Not so sure about that after last update but i know what you mean. I actually thought the same until i played 4.0
 

affeimzoo

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Have you played 0.4c? Thats the one with the dialogue changes.
Nope not yet, i have canceled my patreon and will revisit this game in half a year or when its finished.

Your post just got my attention cause i wasnt aware they would change the lines.
 

NeoGranzon555

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Lol i laugh this update is so shitty, 0.2 10/10, 0.4 -100/10. who cares about Caroline she stupid as fck, give me Linda, not another bulshitt.
 

name88 - King of Hearts

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Did they also changed the interaction between Caroline and her friend Violet who blows MC for making up a favor?

She mentions she will let Caroline do the same to some of her male friends which in my opinion made Caroline a whore just like Violet. I thought the perfect response would have been something like:

"She will pay me back somehow but she would never do something like this. She can be wild but she wont do sexual favors without feelings involved."

Thats more the older sister i envisioned.
She`s an older sister that gives handjobs to her younger brother while their parents are asleep.Caroline is a fun and sexy character but she ain`t no saint.
 

name88 - King of Hearts

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Hi everyone,

For those of you who don't know me, I'm the writer for the game.

I just wanted to make a short announcement regarding Caroline.


*There are some minor spoilers for 0.4 included within this post, so I would urge you to read at your own caution.*

I've been given some leeway to write scenes as I see fit based upon the images provided. In some instances, this has allowed me to develop characters' backstories beyond what ICSTOR had originally designed or envisioned.

In this instance I chose for Caroline to have several ex-boyfriends given that she's a young woman in her mid-twenties. It only seemed natural that she would have had some previous relationships by that age. I didn't anticipate that it would lead to a backlash in any way. I strongly disagree with some individuals' claims that she is "the town bicycle" or a "slut," but I'm not here to start an argument.

One of the purposes of Caroline's exes was to provide a sharp contrast of how they treated her, compared with how the player treats her. The nightclub scene served as an example of such. Gradually, as Caroline and the player do more together she realises that nothing is the same as it was with her exes. She gets butterflies in her belly with every kiss, she experiences pleasure that past partners never gave to her, and she learns that she might be able to have a healthy romantic relationship with the player.

Another reason I chose this is because I felt it fitted well with her character. Caroline is a character who strives for maturity and independence (Granted, she can't always achieve her goals on her own). It made sense for her to be proactive in her social life, as well as her work life. This is why I wrote her character as having multiple previous relationships.

The final reason is that Caroline is a character who enjoys sex. She's more than happy to use it as a reward for the player when they assist her in her shop. Why would such a character who is both fiercely independent and
positive about sex choose NOT to date and try to find a boyfriend?

I do apologise if you are unhappy with how Caroline's backstory has developed. Any blame for that lies entirely with myself, and not with ICSTOR. At present, I am working with ICSTOR to make small alterations, including editing away references to multiple previous partners. Thankfully, in this medium of art, nothing is set in stone and adjustments can quickly and easily be made to resolve potential issues.

The most productive conversation that can probably be had regarding this is: Are you happy with any of the women having former partners? (Obviously some like Linda require at least one former partner for logic's sake.)

If the answer is a resolute 'no', then I know I can irk away from it during future versions of this game.

I'll remain around for the next hour or so to answer questions - but it's an extremely active thread, so if I don't get back to you I'm probably swamped replying to other users.
Nah it`s fine,for a young woman this attractive not to have previous relationships/experiences would be strange,especially after all she already did with her younger brother.You might just tone it down a lil,choose different situations to talk about her ex`s,I was fine with it for the most part,it started to get annoying when she talked about her past in almost every sex scene.Other than that I like your writting.
 
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Dasati

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Nope not yet, i have canceled my patreon and will revisit this game in half a year or when its finished.

Your post just got my attention cause i wasnt aware they would change the lines.
Also just to point out i replayed the scene in question. Violet says she'll "probably" get Caroline to do the same thing to make things even. She then says she better make sure the favour Caroline owes her is worth it. To me that implies she'll want something more personnel rather than wasting it on getting Caroline to suck a friend of hers off. This is also before Violet robbed Caroline's store. If she even tries to suggest anything like that mc can just tell Caroline that and bam. This is ofc assuming Violet doesn't forget bout the favour owed out of guilt over what she did. Another angle is given Caroline's financial success now and Violet's comparative hardship she may straight up ask for money.
 

Devon63

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Man, I LOVE this game. The female characters are mostly gorgeous. Caroline is unreal and the bodies on these models are some of the best I have seen in any 3D game.
However, I HATE the climbing game,. It is REALLY pissing me off. I have had over 100 tries. The pulse is too fast and I can't time things right. I got three right once but fell to the ground on the next one. :(
Is there any way to slow the pulse down or skip the game altogether? This part is making me no longer enjoy it.
 

1800 Mr. Tourture

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not sure if this belongs in the walkthrough thread; but what is the point of the hotfix? i havnt had any issues with .4 at all
 

megaplayboy10k

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1. People talking about their exes IS a turnoff, true.
2. An attractive woman in her mid 20s who has been with a double digit number of men is a normal human being. Not "slutty", the "town bicycle", etc. Where the hell do you think these women learned these sexual skills? Sleeping with 20 men over a 10 year period is not exactly a blistering pace. It means, typically, that they had a handful of longer term relationships, several shorter term ones lasting a few months each, and a few one night stands here and there.
3. The main character is on pace to fuck a dozen or more women, including every woman in his family/household, in a matter of several weeks to a few months. He's a turboslut, by the above standards.

I can understand why any extensive discussion of a partner's sexual history may be a turnoff, but let's at least adhere to a consistent standard that applies to both genders, yes? I guess we can stick with the double standard for another few thousand years, but I'd prefer not to.
 
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Squark ⚧❤️

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Well the protagonist Has two fights in the Game & in both cases he loses! He ends up in a Bin & the other time in the Hospital Which goes to prove the adage I'm a Lover, Not a Fighter :extremelyhappy:
Because he's not a trained fighter nor does he have any experience at needing to defend himself.

Android link plz
İ need android version
I need android verrrr
Read the opening post, guys. Consider yourselves lucky.
 

adicted

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this game is NR 1
ICSTOR is one of the oldest out there in terms of erotic games and the man NEVER DISAPPOINTS.
His games are top notch AND get better with every new game.
F95 was GODs hand on Kickass back then and was a rope for the plebs (such as myself) to get a hand on his games.
F95 and ICSTOR are the BEST i tell you all.
First for uniting the community and second for creating and inspiring others to create.
BIG THANK YOU !
 

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1. People talking about their exes IS a turnoff, true.
2. An attractive woman in her mid 20s who has been with a double digit number of men is a normal human being. Not "slutty", the "town bicycle", etc. Where the hell do you think these women learned these sexual skills? Sleeping with 20 men over a 10 year period is not exactly a blistering pace. It means, typically, that they had a handful of longer term relationships, several shorter term ones lasting a few months each, and a few one night stands here and there.
3. The main character is on pace to fuck a dozen or more women, including every woman in his family/household, in a matter of several weeks to a few months. He's a turboslut, by the above standards.

I can understand why any extensive discussion of a partner's sexual history may be a turnoff, but let's at least adhere to a consistent standard that applies to both genders, yes? I guess we can stick with the double standard for another few thousand years, but I'd prefer not to.
The problem for me isn't the number of partners she's had previously, it's that it just felt out of character for her to be so vocal about having them. It would feel just as out of character for a more sensitive or good guy male to be as vocal about previous sexual encounters with other people while with the person he's currently with.
The way Linda spoke about her BJ skills wasn't as jarring because she seems to be a pretty sexual and sex starved woman at this stage in her life, I can imagine she reminisces a lot and her past is something she cherishes. Caroline on the other hand seems to have had a lot of bad experiences with her past sexual partners so it wouldn't make sense for her to talk about them like a point of pride.
Just my opinion. It's more a matter of what dialogues fit the character than it having anything to do with gender bias as far as numbers go.
 
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