VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.7.5 Public] [Caribdis]

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theblasbla

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Kamuisaki said:
This argument isn't valid no matter the games, it's even less in Eternum. In Eternum you can feel the sensations of things like in real life, so much so that they are people who will confuse both. It's totally a possibility (and a high one) that if someone accomplish his pulsions in Eternum, they will try it in the real world.
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The argument is valid for every game that deals solely with fictional characters. There's no proof that it will lead to real life action. Also I'd like to remind everyone that we're on a website that allows loli porn.

As for whether that'd hold true for a really immersive game like Eternum, well, we don't have evidence either way. Regardless, I still pity the guy because from his perspective there is no reason for him to believe that the NPCs are any more than lines of code, objects that don't exist in the real world.
 
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ShadowLordV1 said:
Can we all agree though that Calypso is most definetly not an NPC
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Well she's clearly not an NPC she's the Princess of the Sy-tel-quessir and the Daughter of Raewyn, THE Princess of Hyril'ar (I think by now it is quite obvious she's not an NPC or a "code")
 
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Dylan741 said:
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I mean, Nova had a full scene in 0.5 and an unannounced mini-scene in 0.6. By all accounts she's kinda cheating, so having her date be skipped from 0.7 and into 0.8 would be understandable. :p

(j/k there's a big chance that Nova's going to be the "Alex" of next patch so I'm already foreseeing it to be a rapture-tier event for members of the Church of Nova)
 
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theblasbla said:
The argument is valid for every game that deals solely with fictional characters. There's no proof that it will lead to real life action. Also I'd like to remind everyone that we're on a website that allows loli porn.

As for whether that'd hold true for a really immersive game like Eternum, well, we don't have evidence either way. Regardless, I still pity the guy because from his perspective there is no reason for him to believe that the NPCs are any more than lines of code, objects that don't exist in the real world.
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If you want to keep the object view, let's try something else then. If NPC are objects then they are public objects, they are not objects that you can do anything you want with them. Damaging them is vandalism, and damaging certain public objects will receive worse punishment than others. Since NPC looks like humans, they will have basically the same balance of judgement than in our world in how we judge crime against the age of the victim. A rapist who rape an adult is a big piece of shit, a rapist of children is an even worse piece of shit.

Here the punishment is that the player lost his levels and items that he acquired. Quite a light punishment in reality because he can just have a fresh restart, he wasn't denounced to Praetorians who could have excommunicated him.
 
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Kamuisaki said:
If you want to keep the object view, let's try something else then. If NPC are objects then they are public objects, they are not objects that you can do anything you want with them. Damaging them is vandalism, and damaging certain public objects will receive worse punishment than others. Since NPC looks like humans, they will have basically the same balance of judgement than in our world in how we judge crime against the age of the victim. A rapist who rape an adult is a big piece of shit, a rapist of children is an even worse piece of shit.

Here the punishment is that the player lost his levels and items that he acquired. Quite a light punishment in reality because he can just have a fresh restart, he wasn't denounced to Praetorians who could have excommunicated him.
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The red text does not follow. No matter what an object looks like it's still just an object. If I smash a figurine of a loli with a hammer, it holds no more weight than if I had smashed a figurine of an adult fictional character. The value of objects is in their monetary value and/or artistic value. More to the point "vandalism" clearly ain't the moral conundrum the Dev was emphasizing in the event.

Considering the MC himself has gone against the Praetorians, "doing something against the rules" clearly isn't something considered immoral. It seems, to me at least, that the message is "this is wrong even when done to purely fictional characters". Which, again, is the Dev throwing stones in a glass house.
 
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theblasbla said:
The red text does not follow. No matter what an object looks like it's still just an object. If I smash a figurine of a loli with a hammer, it holds no more weight than if I had smashed a figurine of an adult fictional character. The value of objects is in their monetary value and/or artistic value. More to the point "vandalism" clearly ain't the moral conundrum the Dev was emphasizing in the event.

Considering the MC himself has gone against the Praetorians, "doing something against the rules" clearly isn't something considered immoral. It seems, to me at least, that the message is "this is wrong even when done to purely fictional characters". Which, again, is the Dev throwing stones in a glass house.
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Take a bigger scale than between 2 figurines, if one is a figurine the other one is a statue. Well here in this situation they are both statue since they are public objects, but one of them is recognised as a cultural heritage statue.
 
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Dorfnutter said:
...If she ever gets a side girl scene I am so blaming you and Pitrik for willing that shit into existence. DX
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Tying this into the prior discussion, what if Calypso at first can't maintain a form in our world so she has to possess someone. Then, in a way, it could be a Getrude scene & Calypso scene at the same time. Everybody wins! :Kappa:

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Dorfnutter said:
I mean, Nova had a full scene in 0.5 and an unannounced mini-scene in 0.6. By all accounts she's kinda cheating, so having her date be skipped from 0.7 and into 0.8 would be understandable. :p

(j/k there's a big chance that Nova's going to be the "Alex" of next patch so I'm already foreseeing it to be a rapture-tier event for members of the Church of Nova)
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M-meanie! All of you.....:cry::cry::cry::cry::HideThePain:


P.S. I'm joking of course, whatever the girl I will be happy regardless, I mean as long as at the end of the scene we will have a romantic moment like with Alex, those misty teary eyes filled with love could've melt the permafrost.
I would gladly renounce to a lewd scene for more of those, I'm a sucker for romance the scene i loved the most are the kiss with Annie in the kitchen and with Luna, daaaaaaw!!!!:love::love::love::love::love:
 
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theblasbla said:
Except we don't even know if its an actual child, we don't know if every NPC is like Thanatos and is an actual person turned into an NPC. The MC admits this.

If the child NPC truly is simply lines of code then I don't see anything wrong with doing whatever you want to it. Because then it's not an actual person, it's just an object.
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Tying this into the prior discussion, what if Calypso at first can't maintain a form in our world so she has to possess someone. Then, in a way, it could be a Getrude scene & Calypso scene at the same time. Everybody wins! :Kappa:

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