VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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RNasc4444

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On the surface, I Agree!

Ocean took out the scene of Miru getting fingered in the cab and then later getting spoofed on my the Krayt guy, but we don't know the full context of that scene because it was never coded into the script.

The mod adds it in with Miru's call to William. Who's to say that's where the scene was intended to be? Who's to say the Miru/William telephone dialogues wouldn't be different if those renders were present.

What's clear from the unmodded Steam script is that Miru getting heavy with the Krayt guy in Ch 4 is dependent on her having the bathroom NTR scene in Ch 3. The bathroom NTR scene is dependent on a bunch of variables in Chs 1 - 3 (Global NTR on / Suggesting then reaffirming open relationship with Miru / keeping Miru horny / Agreeing in bathroom on universal poundy coupon).

People said the bathroom NTR was gone from the game. It's not. The Ch 3 bathroom Miru NTR scene is still in the unmodded Steam release, and Ch 4 topless Miru telling Will over the phone about getting felt up by the Krayt guy is still in the unmodded Steam release. They are both dependent on Ch 3 Miru/William agreeing to Miru getting a universal poundy coupon, redeemable by men other than William.


All that's missing are the six renders (named q5 to q10) showing Miru getting initinate with the Krayt guy. I think we have no context to those renders other than them likely only getting triggered by William agreeing in Ch 3 to Miru having fun with other men...

Thus, the way the mod introduces those missing lewd renders makes it look like Miru is deceiving William. I think that's disingenuous for the reasons outlined above.
I think you replied to the wrong comment John :LOL:

I'm assuming it was a mistake because I didn't mention Krayt or NTR at all. I discarded Miru based on her personality change alone. And the example I gave was her threatning the bar owner during the shakedown...
 
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John972

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I think you replied to the wrong comment John :LOL:

I'm assuming it was a mistake because I didn't mention Krayt or NTR at all. I discarded Miru based on her personality change alone. And the example I gave was her threatning the bar owner during the shakedown...
Yep. sorry, my mistake. I edited in the correct post...
 
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dan_roger69

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I think you replied to the wrong comment John :LOL:

I'm assuming it was a mistake because I didn't mention Krayt or NTR at all. I discarded Miru based on her personality change alone. And the example I gave was her threatning the bar owner during the shakedown...
You discarded Miru, that leaves Katie. Next update you'll discard Katie for getting involved in the Mafia business :ROFLMAO:. Then there will be no one left for you but HELEN :ROFLMAO: (No Tattoos or Piercings).
 

DuckWalker

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If without spoilers: much better visuals, the soundtrack has changed for the better, everything feels smoother, as well as changes in the story, which (for me) made the game better but slower. Either way you should play it for yourself. But be prepared - the MC's chin and jaw moves more and more forward with each update
reminds me of Crimson Chin and Cleft The Boy Chin Wonder.
 
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Maccabbee

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You discarded Miru, that leaves Katie. Next update you'll discard Katie for getting involved in the Mafia business :ROFLMAO:. Then there will be no one left for you but HELEN :ROFLMAO: (No Tattoos or Piercings).
Man, I just don't get that hangup. For me it's not about tattoos and piercings, it's about the person wearing them.
 

DuckWalker

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Probably the main change, MC isn't related to anyone now. So, no bum-bum with step-sis anymore. If 'cest was the main reason you play, better drop the game right now.

Besides that, another big change is that Wollust is mostly ruled by criminal families with rather medieval rules and traditions, and the Zanes are one of those families. It's not that something like this wasn't intended in the old version, but now criminal rivalries and mafia life are brought to the forefront of the plot and some plot elements are adapted to this change in the main storyline.

Otherwise, it's still the same WiAB, only better. The MC (Oh yeah, his appearance has changed, he now looks like Momoa, but that's not new, in the old WiAB he was changed two or three times.) is still fooling around, groping girls, cracks dumb jokes and trying to figure out why Leia has asked him to return. But now all this has a mafia flavor.

There is certainly a small but rather vocal group of users here who took the change with hostility and endlessly repeat in this thread how they don't like anything since the release. And maybe twice as many people who didn't like the changes too, wrote a review about it and moved on.

The rest of us are enjoying the update and waiting for moar.
Was not into Incest, but removing relationship with everyone does not sounds very promising, I mean imo that had major effect on plot. Guess will know once I play it, fingers crossed, I was enjoying where the old version was going without my NTR and 'cest run
 
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RNasc4444

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You discarded Miru, that leaves Katie. Next update you'll discard Katie for getting involved in the Mafia business :ROFLMAO:. Then there will be no one left for you but HELEN :ROFLMAO: (No Tattoos or Piercings).
Completely disagree here. The plot changes made characters act differently to what we have seen from them before. As a direct consequence of the plot changes. I lost all interest in Katie and Miru after this update because I felt like they were no longer quite the same characters that chapter 3 had presented.
That ship has already sailed. Katie is off my LI list. If I ever play another :poop: update I'm gonna have to settle for Kat or Mon :cry:
 
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RNasc4444

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Kata is not settling, she's top tier. Mon needs to start moisturizing, or something, but she's pretty enough.
Yeah I mean you're not completely wrong. I like Kat and I've always liked Monica but compared to Ch3 Miru or Katie they were kinda lacking. And just because Miru and Katie fell off hard for me in ch4 doesn't mean that Kat ot Mon improved. Well Mon did a bit. Her new hair looks hot.
 
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Dr.TSoni

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You discarded Miru, that leaves Katie. Next update you'll discard Katie for getting involved in the Mafia business :ROFLMAO:. Then there will be no one left for you but HELEN :ROFLMAO: (No Tattoos or Piercings).
Unfortunately we have to take into account that RNasc likes to sing, and hangs out with some rather unsavory friends.
ag2703.jpg Capiche?
 
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RNasc4444

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Whoever RNasc picks in WIAB Ocean will spin a story RNasc4444 won't like and he will be forced to discard them :ROFLMAO: and eventually WIAB.
And eventually SG too

But yeah I'm 99% done with this one. It's not 100% yet because we're a year out from the next release and something can still change but considering it's Ocean...I doubt it :LOL:
 
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