SpiritX

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Don't think so. If I would choose one developer that will write the story his way, who doesn't care about backlash, that would be DrPinkCake. And that' what I respect - author with integrity.
No you missunderstand me, i think its the other way around. For effect, who better to crash and burn than the most popular girls.
 

Abas_Roberto

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I find it very hard to get into this game because I get the impression that Dr Pinkcake is the Rian Johnson of adult video games. His biggest desire to surprise people by subverting their expectations instead of providing a satisfying and coherent story. His previous game, Acting Lessons, was really bad for sudden twists that completely derailed the established plotlines and turned the final third of the game into a smelly old dumpster fire.

I've already had my expectations subverted with one character in this game, albeit a very minor character, so I'm fully expecting much more dramatic twists later on for the main characters.

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When I play this game, I don't anticipate how great it will be when we finally get the girl. Instead, I'm trying to figure out how awful it will be when we finally get the girl. It's a really bizarre feeling. I can't get emotionally invested in any of the characters in the game because I'm certain that none of them will get a satisfying ending. I end up just playing out of morbid curiosity because I want to see what absurdly melodramatic twists will be shoehorned into the game.
Not going to touch the predictions cause I kind of just want to be taken along for a ride. Mild Spoilers ahead regarding Acting Lessons, Steve, and Troy in this comment so read at your own risk.

I actually prefer Dr. Pinkcake's works over that of any other author's because of this, to be honest. So many games exist where the main character can do nothing wrong, is viewed positively by everyone, and somehow gets away with everything even if it would never make sense (Most games where you can bed everyone and where everyone is okay with it). I think it's healthier to look at PinkCake's games as one where you're not playing as light god-mode version of yourself, but a character in someone's universe, like the difference between playing Geralt in the Witcher series and not your own custom character in say Skyrim or Fallout.

And to your point about Steve (Nice Game of Thrones Reference, now that's an actual dumpster fire), I think you're trying to pigeonhole Steve into a completely immoral character when many people in real life aren't just one dimensional. You can be a jackass character and still have your own problems that people can identify with. In fact, it isn't uncommon to hear about people you once knew in the past to turn out to be better or worse people than when you last heard about them.

On a similar tangent about not having one-dimensional characters, when we encounter Troy after the MC's guitar is stolen, we're given the option to beat him up or to storm out angrily. Many people probably thought it was justifiable to beat Troy because he perhaps didn't do enough to help us or perhaps even aided the jocks. Troy obviously dislikes us, tolerates us at best, so now's a good time to get our kicks in, no?

But let's think about it from Troy's perspective: Troy was probably chilling in his dorm room when Chad and a couple Jocks stopped by to mess around with the MC. Although we don't know exactly what happened, it's likely that Chad wanted to steal the MC's guitar and Troy was against it (Otherwise why would he have been beaten up and his side of the room trashed as well.) Obviously Troy can't fight off multiple people at once, so he loses handily. Now he's lying on his bed in pain, with a black eye and a bruised ego (which we can obviously see when we snap at him and he snaps back at us) and the MC comes in and completely makes him out to be just as bad as the Jocks. You can tell that Troy's definitely not happy about this when he says 'LET THEM? You think I wanted this?', implying that Troy while definitely rough around the edges, didn't want to directly hurt the MC and probably resisted. He's also fond of us playing the guitar; it's the one time he seems to like us even if he's sullen for the rest of our time together.

Having played a decent number of games ranging from MoTH, Melody, Depraved Awakening, City of Broken Dreamers, Seed of Chaos, most of ICSTOR's works, Four Elements Trainer, Good Girl Gone Bad, I can safely say that AL and BIK made me genuinely feel the same emotional highs and lows that no other game gave me.

Harem Hotel, Waifu Academy and Mythic Manor have nonexistent plots and are little more than harem collection games with no adversity. (Although I will admit Waifu Academy is actually quite funny and although it has very linear story, the main protagonist actually has some personality). Literally you could fast forward through all the text/events in the first/third and not miss a thing worth remembering.

People no doubt complained about the last part of AL and even wanted PinkCake to write an alternate ending where the MC ended up with both Melissa and Megan (Assuming they picked both) happily ever after. I mean, does that sound plausible at all?

And as for a satisfying ending, I really felt the highs and lows of AL, but thoroughly enjoyed them. The MC's despair upon seeing the burning house, his depression, his insecurity about not knowing what to do, him recovering in therapy, then coming out crying because he knew that chapter of his life was behind him, to the moment where you're scattering the deceased's ashes over the ocean with the MC monologuing to himself (and the viewers) about how to never give up even if life isn't going to be easy and gets tough at times.

Whew, that was a mouthful. Anyway, just wanted to share my opinion.
 

Ergotron90000

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There's room for both I think, and let's be honest the get-your-dick-wet no consequences style of game is plenty common. DPC is going for a more "realistic" porn game, where the characters actually behave somewhat like real human beings. The Steve example is perfect, yes he is an asshole because he sexually harrassed Josy but that doesn't mean he can't do the right thing in other circumstances. Fact is good people aren't good all the time and bad people can still treat some in their lives very well. Personally it's refreshing to me to see that reflected in this genre of game which usually reduces characters to a single dimension.

One thing I think is somewhat of a problem is the whole DIK-CHICK system, it makes nuanced situations into a stragetic game decision. Normally I'd just play the game naturally and see what happens, like I did with Acting Lessons, but now there is this numerical system attached to my actions I just have two files for each extreme because I want to see everything. It's just kind of annoying that you can't do certain things or characters respond to your decisions differently based on your "score" up until then, even though you earned that score based on things which they have no knowledge of.
 

Vrdr

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So, let me start by saying that the intro/warning made me smile. It could have been written directly to/for me, as I was one of the ones who got to that certain point in AL and said "Nope. Screw this. I'm done." and deleted the game and never looked back. I'm glad Dr. PinkCake completed AL, I just couldn't get past that point. I've had similar things happen with novels and movies, so I looked at it as just me.

That said, I loved it up to that point,, the quality of the entire game was amazing, so when I saw this, I jumped back into it. The intro had me smiling and laughing, and wanting more. This game has every single high-quality piece that I saw in AL and would expect from something with Dr. PinkCake's name on it. And this time, I'm going in forewarned that there may be some things that bug the ever-living Hel out of me. It still isn't going to stop me from enjoying this great game from a dedicated and talented developer.

So thanks, Dr. PinkCake, loved it so far. I won't promise not to get pissed at some point, but that doesn't stop me from admiring some great work and storytelling!
 

lgarthy

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I love this thread-- because it confirms something that I suspect to be true: most of us want a game that is FAPable, but that alone is empty. We want the beauty, the sexiness, the pursuit, AND the story. We want immerse stories and deep characters (as well as some characterizations and a couple of stereotypes and/or supporting roles). BaD is a working out to be a legitimate narrative, a tome, a piece of super-sexy literary art. Reading the comments on this forum affirms this for me.

As the for "score," it adds an element but I don't think it dictates action. In fact, I think if you play it too heavy on either end; DIK or CHIK, you may go down very different paths, but I also feel a tremendous sense of ambivalence building in my own game experience. Dr. P is giving me a choice (I think), I can choose to be a 3D, developed, "real" character in this narrative, or I can be a foil. I can fuck like a rabbit, be passive, or act like a man (which will, I believe, inevitable put me nearer to the middle of the scoreboard).

BUT-- because it is a game with saves, I can go back and do re-do's to see the content I might have missed, etc. It would be meaner, but more 'real' if that element went away and I really had to live hard with my in-game decisions.

Still, for my primary pathway this time around I am going to try to pursue one, honest, relationship in BaD. That is where I felt 'dirty' in AL-- when I was playing around with both Megan and Missy. Yes, that is the FUN and the wonder of having and playing games, but it also was emotionally harder because the author (Dr. P) is just so good about making the characters real. Besides, I can always explore those alternate routes! Woo hoo!!!

Again, thank goodness for saves and replays! :) Can't do that in RL!!!!
 

Journey95

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I find it very hard to get into this game because I get the impression that Dr Pinkcake is the Rian Johnson of adult video games. His biggest desire to surprise people by subverting their expectations instead of providing a satisfying and coherent story. His previous game, Acting Lessons, was really bad for sudden twists that completely derailed the established plotlines and turned the final third of the game into a smelly old dumpster fire.

I've already had my expectations subverted with one character in this game, albeit a very minor character, so I'm fully expecting much more dramatic twists later on for the main characters.

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When I play this game, I don't anticipate how great it will be when we finally get the girl. Instead, I'm trying to figure out how awful it will be when we finally get the girl. It's a really bizarre feeling. I can't get emotionally invested in any of the characters in the game because I'm certain that none of them will get a satisfying ending. I end up just playing out of morbid curiosity because I want to see what absurdly melodramatic twists will be shoehorned into the game.

Here are my current wild guesses as to what the big plot twists will be:

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Anyways, those are my guesses for the inevitable plot twists. I'm still enjoying all the eyecandy, but the story doesn't grip me at all. I just can't get invested in these characters when I don't trust the author in the slightest.
I wasn't a fan of the crazy nurse twist in AL and the dark direction that game took either but it was really great coherent until that point. It was rare to have such human characters in games like this, say what you will about this dev but he does make more "special" porn games and I think that should be praised. Even though AL turned into a mess I'll take it over most games on this website that are just the same rehashed & safe incest garbage with zero creativity.

As long as he doesn't go overboard and make a drastic 180 change like with AL this game will be just fine. I don't think making characters more complex is a bad thing, the Steve part was just fine. If he was just a simplistic bad guy it would be boring. Some twists as long as they aren't too crazy are good too, they keep things interesting. It feels like some people just want zero tension and surprises, just mindless fapping.
 
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As the for "score," it adds an element but I don't think it dictates action. In fact, I think if you play it too heavy on either end; DIK or CHIK, you may go down very different paths, but I also feel a tremendous sense of ambivalence building in my own game experience. Dr. P is giving me
I just play the game the way I would react. The score system is just a fun thing to see what kind of MC I would be. Episode one I was on the chick side, without even noticing how, my score went to 0.
 

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Josy did have a boyfriend named Matt until he cut off his DIK, became Maya, and ran off to college to prove he could pledge a sorority. :cool: (y)
Talk about Maya, what's up with her textures lol. Her fingers looks wrinkled as fuuuuck I was kind of off-putting by it lol.
 

SomeOldFart

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Can you guys go over to the Fan Art page and post some Josy pics before she ends up getting run over by the DrPinkCake train? Thanks! :D (y)
 
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icesun

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She's probably bisexual and had a crush on the girl from the picture, her father caught them kissing and got angry
Hah! That comment got me thinking... ...I don't think she's bi... ...I think she's a lesbian... ...that would kinda explain her "why does this feel good?" (or something like that, don't have a savegame to check the exact wording there) statement while she was rubbing herself on MC right before the tazer-attack... ...and the rest of your point fits just nicely into that...
 

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To be fair it was my joke theory from the result of thinking waaaayy too hard about all this stuff. I'm worried I've become like the and have read and re-read so much of the game script that I found things that DrPinkCake didn't even think of.

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To be honest, I think this is much better than any Maya/Josy theories... not everybody has to be linked by the strands of fate.

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I think the biggest mystery of the entire game though is how Derrick got into B&R.... Maybe he is a secret genius and the way he "cheats" is just using his massive intellect to answer the questions without even needing to study.
 

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To be fair it was my joke theory from the result of thinking waaaayy too hard about all this stuff. I'm worried I've become like the and have read and re-read so much of the game script that I found things that DrPinkCake didn't even think of.


To be honest, I think this is much better than any Maya/Josy theories... not everybody has to be linked by the strands of fate.

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I think the biggest mystery of the entire game though is how Derrick got into B&R.... Maybe he is a secret genius and the way he "cheats" is just using his massive intellect to answer the questions without even needing to study.
Derek is acting dumb after the past with PG
 
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