VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.17.2] [Runey]

[TheDevian]

My opinion of the game and something that's popular doesn't mean it's good.


Same:
Why do you even take the time to comment this lmao.

You are right, 'good' is objective, and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and most of them stink.

For me, this game has great world building, a bunch of characters, a really nice story, and caters to some of my favorite kinks. Whereas Milfy City is one more in a long list of abandoned games by the same dev who is unable to finish anything. It had good art and animations, but no direction. Milfy is popular due to the art and the incest, This is popular for story, volume, and scope. Not really the same thing.

Not really sure what your issue is, so if your goal is more than just to troll and start a fight, then how about explaining why you think this, rather than just arguing, and then we can discuss the points like civilized people.

 

[yellheah47]

I downloaded the latest version and I cant load my previous files, I'm getting this error
(I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'sensitive')
Please help

 

[Havik79]

I downloaded the latest version and I cant load my previous files, I'm getting this error
(I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'sensitive')
Please help

Well unless it is version 9.2 you are on a pirated 10.2 beta, so yeah these things happen.

 

[venDJ]

Emma will get dungeon content soon

I hope we get the option to sleep with Emma too

 

[Havik79]

I hope we get the option to sleep with Emma too

Sex? or in our bed at night? either way you can do so already.

 

[Arshavinstyle]

You are right, 'good' is objective, and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and most of them stink.

For me, this game has great world building(a very very very very small part of the world. -5 stars, m joking), a bunch of characters, a really nice story, and caters to some of my favorite kinks. Whereas Milfy City is one more in a long list of abandoned games by the same dev who is unable to finish anything. It had good art and animations, but no direction. Milfy is popular due to the art and the incest, This is popular for story, volume, and scope. Not really the same thing.

Not really sure what your issue is, so if your goal is more than just to troll and start a fight, then how about explaining why you think this, rather than just arguing, and then we can discuss the points like civilized people.

Sorry but for me is hotel building, some characters are good others are shit for me (same as in all games, nothing important), half sandbox to easy game and some mechanics are little bit damm.
Milfy and hotel are the same in that both are popular and that both are made for the masses. The developers are not stupid (incest and lolis / honey or anime girls is what people like the most, which includes me).
League of legends is a good game? no, but it is popular.
Gameplay, history, development of herself, missions, secondary, graphics, environment, management, animations, mechanics, lighting, sound, HUD and its coherence with respect to world.
Surely you have rated it 5 stars like most people without taking into account all these factors when speaking of a game objectively and not from the likes / fetishes of oneself. Objectively I give it a 3 / 3.5 and from my taste/fetiches 4 / 4.5.


I agree with you except for the aforementioned and that I am looking for a fight after seeing my opinion given in the game forum. Everyone has their fanaticism. The people who skyrocket the game do not have the time to answer it but yes for someone who believes they are overrated in the ratings


I can assure you that "good" games can be counted on the fingers of the hands.

 

[ImperialD]

i rather like this game alot .. it beats most games you can find on any site ... and the Dev. well is awesome as fucking Kali is ...lol

 

[TheDevian]

I downloaded the latest version and I cant load my previous files, I'm getting this error
(I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'sensitive')
Please help

9.2 is the latest version.
Don't play betas unless you want to deal with that sort of thing happening.

Sorry but for me is hotel building, some characters are good others are shit for me (same as in all games, nothing important), half sandbox to easy game and some mechanics are little bit damm.
Milfy and hotel are the same in that both are popular and that both are made for the masses. The developers are not stupid (incest and lolis / honey or anime girls is what people like the most, which includes me).
League of legends is a good game? no, but it is popular.
Gameplay, history, development of herself, missions, secondary, graphics, environment, management, animations, mechanics, lighting, sound, HUD and its coherence with respect to world.
Surely you have rated it 5 stars like most people without taking into account all these factors when speaking of a game objectively and not from the likes / fetishes of oneself. Objectively I give it a 3 / 3.5 and from my taste/fetiches 4 / 4.5.


I agree with you except for the aforementioned and that I am looking for a fight after seeing my opinion given in the game forum. Everyone has their fanaticism. The people who skyrocket the game do not have the time to answer it but yes for someone who believes they are overrated in the ratings


I can assure you that "good" games can be counted on the fingers of the hands.

There really isn't any 'hotel building', just unlock a new area once in a while, mostly for story reasons... Ellen manages basically everything for you.

Yeah, can't expect to like everyone in a game this size, most of us have issues with at least one character.

The 'sandbox' aspect of this game could not be easier, play around as much as you want, and go to the girls' room when you are ready to do more of her story. This is one of the easiest sandboxes of all time.

Again, there is really isn't any comparison between the two games nor their devs. Milfy's dev has said that he gets bored after a hand full of updates, and he will only make games that have about 5 updates from now on. Where as Runey is building a world with rich lore and plans to keep working on this even after the stories for the main girls are done. There might even be more games in this same world.

Harem Hotel is about story first, sex second, Milfy is incest first, and story ...maybe, but it will never be complete, so why care about it?

I didn't say you were looking for a fight, but the way you posted, that is what you were asking for. If you want to criticize a game, that is your right, we can't all like the same things, and many of us criticize what we like to make it better, but just saying it is overrated is not helpful in any way. If you want something to improve, you need to say what you don't like, something you still haven't really done.

I rated this one as I see it, I consider everything that matters to me. Graphics are nice, but not top of my list of needs, in fact, I prefer 2D over 3D any day. I like the story, the play style, the wold building, the lore, the kinks, and so on.

I agree, the number of 'good' games are few (especially in the AAA industry), and since I started to develop my own, I have had to stop playing most of them due to lack of time, but this is one of the few that I will never drop. It might easily be my favorite game on this site, whereas I won't touch Milfy for any reason, it really has very little that appeals to me.

Not only have you not said what you think is bad about this one, you do not say what you mean by 'good'. You rate it 4-4.5 for your tastes and yet you call it a bad/overrated game. I really don't understand why you are complaining then. For me, when I don't like a game, I generally avoid it at all costs, I don't go looking for a place to complain about it, so again, I am confused here, anything you can give a 4 (average) is not a bad game by any stretch.

 

[Deleted member 929426]

9.2 is the latest version.
Don't play betas unless you want to deal with that sort of thing happening.

There really isn't any 'hotel building', just unlock a new area once in a while, mostly for story reasons... Ellen manages basically everything for you.

Yeah, can't expect to like everyone in a game this size, most of us have issues with at least one character.

The 'sandbox' aspect of this game could not be easier, play around as much as you want, and go to the girls' room when you are ready to do more of her story. This is one of the easiest sandboxes of all time.

Again, there is really isn't any comparison between the two games nor their devs. Milfy's dev has said that he gets bored after a hand full of updates, and he will only make games that have about 5 updates from now on. Where as Runey is building a world with rich lore and plans to keep working on this even after the stories for the main girls are done. There might even be more games in this same world.

Harem Hotel is about story first, sex second, Milfy is incest first, and story ...maybe, but it will never be complete, so why care about it?

I didn't say you were looking for a fight, but the way you posted, that is what you were asking for. If you want to criticize a game, that is your right, we can't all like the same things, and many of us criticize what we like to make it better, but just saying it is overrated is not helpful in any way. If you want something to improve, you need to say what you don't like, something you still haven't really done.

I rated this one as I see it, I consider everything that matters to me. Graphics are nice, but not top of my list of needs, in fact, I prefer 2D over 3D any day. I like the story, the play style, the wold building, the lore, the kinks, and so on.

I agree, the number of 'good' games are few (especially in the AAA industry), and since I started to develop my own, I have had to stop playing most of them due to lack of time, but this is one of the few that I will never drop. It might easily be my favorite game on this site, whereas I won't touch Milfy for any reason, it really has very little that appeals to me.

Not only have you not said what you think is bad about this one, you do not say what you mean by 'good'. You rate it 4-4.5 for your tastes and yet you call it a bad/overrated game. I really don't understand why you are complaining then. For me, when I don't like a game, I generally avoid it at all costs, I don't go looking for a place to complain about it, so again, I am confused here, anything you can give a 4 (average) is not a bad game by any stretch.

In their defense, the 4/4.5 rating was for their tastes/fetishes. The game, itself, was given an overall score of 3/3.5, which I would place as "average" as opposed to "good."

That being said, I have to agree that just posting something like "It sux!" or, in the case of the original post "It's overrated" tends to be seen in a more negative light than an actual review/critique of the game.

 

[TheDevian]

In their defense, the 4/4.5 rating was for their tastes/fetishes. The game, itself, was given an overall score of 3/3.5, which I would place as "average" as opposed to "good."

That being said, I have to agree that just posting something like "It sux!" or, in the case of the original post "It's overrated" tends to be seen in a more negative light than an actual review/critique of the game.

That is why I said 4 average rating between the two.

2.5 is average over all, 3-4 is still pretty good out of 5, 60-80%. I mean nothing is perfect. Though as these games go, this one comes pretty close for my tastes.

 

[exlol]

Why would you compare Milfy City with Harem Hotel is beyond me, Milfy City uses Daz3d and Harem Hotel Honey Select. Harem Hotel has a story and and some great characters with different stories to tell. Milfy City has great renders. You just can't compare both games with eachother.
Both games are good in their own way.

 

[jamdan]

I don't know, but Caroline was interested in business, I certainly wouldn't be sad if she applied for a job at the hotel

 

[Arshavinstyle]

9.2 is the latest version.
Don't play betas unless you want to deal with that sort of thing happening.

There really isn't any 'hotel building', just unlock a new area once in a while, mostly for story reasons... Ellen manages basically everything for you.

Yeah, can't expect to like everyone in a game this size, most of us have issues with at least one character.

The 'sandbox' aspect of this game could not be easier, play around as much as you want, and go to the girls' room when you are ready to do more of her story. This is one of the easiest sandboxes of all time.

Again, there is really isn't any comparison between the two games nor their devs. Milfy's dev has said that he gets bored after a hand full of updates, and he will only make games that have about 5 updates from now on. Where as Runey is building a world with rich lore and plans to keep working on this even after the stories for the main girls are done. There might even be more games in this same world.

Harem Hotel is about story first, sex second, Milfy is incest first, and story ...maybe, but it will never be complete, so why care about it?

I didn't say you were looking for a fight, but the way you posted, that is what you were asking for. If you want to criticize a game, that is your right, we can't all like the same things, and many of us criticize what we like to make it better, but just saying it is overrated is not helpful in any way. If you want something to improve, you need to say what you don't like, something you still haven't really done.

I rated this one as I see it, I consider everything that matters to me. Graphics are nice, but not top of my list of needs, in fact, I prefer 2D over 3D any day. I like the story, the play style, the wold building, the lore, the kinks, and so on.

I agree, the number of 'good' games are few (especially in the AAA industry), and since I started to develop my own, I have had to stop playing most of them due to lack of time, but this is one of the few that I will never drop. It might easily be my favorite game on this site, whereas I won't touch Milfy for any reason, it really has very little that appeals to me.

Not only have you not said what you think is bad about this one, you do not say what you mean by 'good'. You rate it 4-4.5 for your tastes and yet you call it a bad/overrated game. I really don't understand why you are complaining then. For me, when I don't like a game, I generally avoid it at all costs, I don't go looking for a place to complain about it, so again, I am confused here, anything you can give a 4 (average) is not a bad game by any stretch.

Maybe each one has a different opinion about what an overrated game is (for my overrated it does not mean that it is bad, it is good but not as much as people paint it) that you look at the ratings and they say that their rating is 5 or almost perfect gives you to understand that this game has to have something that is really good after 165 reviews (it has good things) but when I played it I realized that it was not what was expected and that it was missing, voyeurism, 3d, male protagonist , cosplay, sandbox, corruption (practically all categories except for the harem and slave) and especially the animation seemed quite normal or mediocre to me for those 5 review stars. If it were for the story I would give it a 5 but there are more things in the game and for me it is not at the level that you put it. I am not going to tell you that the gameplay is good or bad because it is like 60% of what you can find around that 60% (you can find games that outperform you in quite a few aspects but then weaken in others). The problem comes from you start looking for a sandbox by rating and guess which one comes out first "Harem" a word that most otakus (joke) don't like very much and we have "Waht is legend" at 6 rank with 4 weeks of life. Except for history, it has nothing that stands out to be as upstairs, much less as 1 place in the sandbox.

I repeat it again, the game is good as for a 4 (subjectively) but not a 5 and therefore in my opinion it is overrated.

Of the 5 or 10 people who have reacted to me, you TheDevian are the only one who has responded to me with arguments and sense according to your opinion.

Now tell me TheDevian if with what the developer earns, apart from the story it stands out in any other aspect to deserve 5 stars?

 

[jamdan]

" missing voyeurism, 3d, male protagonist , cosplay, sandbox, corruption "

It has all of that, look at the tag rules thread. It's a 3D game, it has a male protag, there are cosplay events, it's a sandbox and it has corruption (not dark corruption, but still corruption). You either 1) Haven't played the game enough to find that stuff or 2) Don't know what the tag means.


A lot of the tags for the game don't happen in the story pieces, they're repeatable events outside of the story.

https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/

tag rules ^

This game has crap loads of content, it seems like you haven't played much of it at all.

 

[Arshavinstyle]

" missing voyeurism, 3d, male protagonist , cosplay, sandbox, corruption "

It has all of that, look at the tag rules thread. It's a 3D game, it has a male protag, there are cosplay events, it's a sandbox and it has corruption (not dark corruption, but still corruption). You either 1) Haven't played the game enough to find that stuff or 2) Don't know what the tag means.


A lot of the tags for the game don't happen in the story pieces, they're repeatable events outside of the story.

https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/

tag rules ^

This game has crap loads of content, it seems like you haven't played much of it at all.

1 Read again my post.
2 Think before writing something that doesn't make sense.
3 Respond without breaking the information
.

 

[Runey]

Sorry but for me is hotel building, some characters are good others are shit for me (same as in all games, nothing important), half sandbox to easy game and some mechanics are little bit damm.

I'm not going to argue with you, if you didn't like my game that's fine. But others did, so I wouldn't call it overrated. It's fine to say you personally don't like a game. But if what the above is what you got out of my game, you didn't really play it.

 

[Runey]

v0.10 may end up being the update with the most story content added. 1 - 2 story events is normal per main character.
In v0.10 Lin will get 5 (about 30 minute play time)
Felicity & Emma + Ashley will get 3 (also about 30 minutes I think)
Kali and Autumn will each get 2 story events
Android and Maria are planned for 1 story event each.
And 5 story events for 4 different side characters so far.

 

[Arshavinstyle]

I'm not going to argue with you, if you didn't like my game that's fine. But others did, so I wouldn't call it overrated. It's fine to say you personally don't like a game. But if what the above is what you got out of my game, you didn't really play it.

Last play was 3 months ago.

In these 3 months I have not played it. Has the development been as good as the + € 4,000 that people invest? Because if it is if I try it again and if this development is really according to what is being invested and what is promised I subscribe for € 5 a month with my patreon.

 

[TheDevian]

Maybe each one has a different opinion about what an overrated game is (for my overrated it does not mean that it is bad, it is good but not as much as people paint it) that you look at the ratings and they say that their rating is 5 or almost perfect gives you to understand that this game has to have something that is really good after 165 reviews (it has good things) but when I played it I realized that it was not what was expected and that it was missing, voyeurism, 3d, male protagonist , cosplay, sandbox, corruption (practically all categories except for the harem and slave) and especially the animation seemed quite normal or mediocre to me for those 5 review stars. If it were for the story I would give it a 5 but there are more things in the game and for me it is not at the level that you put it. I am not going to tell you that the gameplay is good or bad because it is like 60% of what you can find around that 60% (you can find games that outperform you in quite a few aspects but then weaken in others). The problem comes from you start looking for a sandbox by rating and guess which one comes out first "Harem" a word that most otakus (joke) don't like very much and we have "Waht is legend" at 6 rank with 4 weeks of life. Except for history, it has nothing that stands out to be as upstairs, much less as 1 place in the sandbox.

I repeat it again, the game is good as for a 4 (subjectively) but not a 5 and therefore in my opinion it is overrated.

Of the 5 or 10 people who have reacted to me, you TheDevian are the only one who has responded to me with arguments and sense according to your opinion.

Now tell me TheDevian if with what the developer earns, apart from the story it stands out in any other aspect to deserve 5 stars?

Most people rate games like they do phone surveys, knowing that the person on the phone gets in trouble if they get anything less than a max score. There are also people who give something a 5 to make up for the ones who give it a 1 for just as asinine a reason.

It has all of the things you say are missing. The animation started low end, but the more he learns about what he is doing, the better it gets. To me, the gameplay is more or less perfect, it is a thing to emulate. Different people put different value on each of those things. If someone doesn't care about X do you think that ought to affect their review?

Any new game is going to be skewed if you are looking at the ratings, you have to wait for at least a 3rd release for that as a general rule.

Yes, for some of us, I think that it does deserve it, as I said, not all of us place the same value on the same things. My favorite kink is exhibitionism, and the fact that this has it done well, without the things that I hate, such as NTR, the MC being raped (much), sex with guys, etc. already puts it in the top 10 games here, and adding to that the rich lore and story shoot it far passed that. To me, some of those things get far more than 5 points, which more than makes up for the few things that I do not care for (which I can more or less avoid without issue). To me, a 4.5 is the minimum this game deserves.

I like HS art a lot better than daz, as a breast man, having breasts that move and nipples that are not flat, or looking like pinched clay matters a lot. I avoid most Daz games simply due to the fact that the breasts/nipples look awful.

To be fair, you can't really expect a good dialogue when your initial critique was simply 'this is overrated', and then comparing it to MC was a real low blow. You have to expect that you will upset people with that, that is pretty trolly. The only way that comparison is not insulting is if you are comparing art, and comparing daz to HS is truly apples and oranges.

 

[Arshavinstyle]

Most people rate games like they do phone surveys, knowing that the person on the phone gets in trouble if they get anything less than a max score. There are also people who give something a 5 to make up for the ones who give it a 1 for just as asinine a reason.

It has all of the things you say are missing. The animation started low end, but the more he learns about what he is doing, the better it gets. To me, the gameplay is more or less perfect, it is a thing to emulate. Different people put different value on each of those things. If someone doesn't care about X do you think that ought to affect their review?

Any new game is going to be skewed if you are looking at the ratings, you have to wait for at least a 3rd release for that as a general rule.

Yes, for some of us, I think that it does deserve it, as I said, not all of us place the same value on the same things. My favorite kink is exhibitionism, and the fact that this has it done well, without the things that I hate, such as NTR, the MC being raped (much), sex with guys, etc. already puts it in the top 10 games here, and adding to that the rich lore and story shoot it far passed that. To me, some of those things get far more than 5 points, which more than makes up for the few things that I do not care for (which I can more or less avoid without issue). To me, a 4.5 is the minimum this game deserves.

I like HS art a lot better than daz, as a breast man, having breasts that move and nipples that are not flat, or looking like pinched clay matters a lot. I avoid most Daz games simply due to the fact that the breasts/nipples look awful.

To be fair, you can't really expect a good dialogue when your initial critique was simply 'this is overrated', and then comparing it to MC was a real low blow. You have to expect that you will upset people with that, that is pretty trolly. The only way that comparison is not insulting is if you are comparing art, and comparing daz to HS is truly apples and oranges.

I just downloaded it and played it because of the ratings, I had a high expectation of the game but when I played it it was not what I expected I thought it was the best I could play and I was wrong. The expectation that people gave me made me overrated and I don't understand why people think I'm insulting the game for saying things that I don't like about it but at the same time I say it's good but it's not perfect for me I mean 5 stars is too much for any game on this forum. Because 5 stars is the maximum so any game that is given 5 stars should be perfect or almost.