VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[jackofshadows]

I've the last 300 pages and haven't seen this theory, but what are peoples thought that MC will have to choose between M/J and Sage.

At some point MC will have to choose a single girl, I don't think that even M/J thing will drag through the entire game.

There’s a balancing act for me personally. I don’t like random routes being mutually exclusive and I don’t like WMV style “MC can have 7 dates and ejaculate 6 times in one evening” freedom to date everyone at once.

infact going forward I think the MC being absent when with other girls should be noticed. Maya brings it up on Rooster that Bella’s is “where he keeps disappearing to”. That is realism to me, characters existing and making decisions when not directly in the MC’a vicinity.

Yeah, free roam at the preps party was a total mess. I wish events on it would have been separated somehow.

I'm sure. In that playthrough I missed the event with the HOTs in the bath which requires Massive DIK status. I was there but couldn't join while doing mostly DIK actions the whole game.

So, the systems are interwined after all, most interesting. I don't care enough to find out how exactly is cap work because to me going the opposing directions is not appealing but knowing the fact is pretty cool. Description is still confusing though because penalty doesn't apply right away.

so gentlemen your top 3 please, GO!

1. Camila
2. Lily
3. Riona

Sage top if I have to choose among main girls.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Interesting interpretation, man. Affinity - something that reveals only under pressure, thus shows true nature of the main character. However, if we look at list of major dik choices, I'd say it's not the case:

Roughly only half of the choices are imply pressure and/or a super-tight time frame.

As for status, DPC introduces it like this:

Merely a current mood of MC, which sorta make sense given fast and crazy pacing of our storytelling although polar minor choices within the same playthrough might seem too inconsistent just for one person. Given this and confusing presentation at the end of each episode as you've provided

where status range slapped on top of affinity axis I assumed at first that when we're making a major choice, we're also reducing the maximum possible amount of DIK/CHICK points, which actually is not correct. However, official walkthrough's description confusing about this as well:

Penalty to the status. I wonder if that was original DPC's intention but during the implementation he abandoned the idea or it was the other way around.

eh, pointless response, while i was writing it, others responded and explained to you i see

 

[Darkdevil66]

Still completely confused by this scene.

If we assume Melanie means to call Chad, what does she expect to happen? They didn't take a picture, so all she could tell him is that the MC openly kissed Sage. Isn't that what Chad feared was going on back when he first clashed with the MC back in Episode 1? This might be confirmation of his fears, but why does Melanie think this will make Chad less determined to stick with Sage?

Riona thought Chad attacked the MC over Sage, which is a pretty reasonable guess for anyone who doesn't know about the envelopes. Unless Melanie and Sarah do know about the envelopes, then surely they would likewise assume Chad is already willing to fight the MC over Sage. Meaning he would fight to 'defend' the relationship - practically the opposite of breaking up with her. So why do they think hearing she kissed the MC would reverse Chad's response?

Frankly, even if Melanie and Sarah do know about the envelopes I'm not sure how watching the MC kiss Sage would help break up Chad and Sage. Chad's envelope obviously had evidence of some secret Chad wanted to keep hidden; that seems like a much better tool to force a breakup than hearsay about something Chad already suspects.

For the life of me I just cannot see any way to make sense of their actions, unless they really are just crazy chicks who like to stir up shit and feel very slightly guilty about making Sage feel bad.

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[Holy Bacchus]

At some point MC will have to choose a single girl, I don't think that even M/J thing will drag through the entire game.

I just hope that things with all LIs can last as long as possible. I know that there are LIs that can technically be cut off already, but I'd rather get as much content with each of them before having to make any definitive choice. If it comes down to the last couple of episodes to choose, fine, but if this game does indeed go for 16 or 20 episodes and I'm down to just 1 or 2 LIs after ep 8 or 9, then it's not so fun for me anymore.

A choice will come eventually, but I'd like to have as much cake as possible and eat it too before then.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Did anyone had a change of heart about the girls after ep5? i sure have
so gentlemen your top 3 please, GO!

1. Sage
2. Quinn
3. Jill

 

[The5thguy]

oh right i totally forgot. We might get to find out who Chad's sidechick is haha

I mean that scene heavily implies it's mel

 

[ename144]

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[mindern]

Still completely confused by this scene.

If we assume Melanie means to call Chad, what does she expect to happen? They didn't take a picture, so all she could tell him is that the MC openly kissed Sage. Isn't that what Chad feared was going on back when he first clashed with the MC back in Episode 1? This might be confirmation of his fears, but why does Melanie think this will make Chad less determined to stick with Sage?

Riona thought Chad attacked the MC over Sage, which is a pretty reasonable guess for anyone who doesn't know about the envelopes. Unless Melanie and Sarah do know about the envelopes, then surely they would likewise assume Chad is already willing to fight the MC over Sage. Meaning he would fight to 'defend' the relationship - practically the opposite of breaking up with her. So why do they think hearing she kissed the MC would reverse Chad's response?

Frankly, even if Melanie and Sarah do know about the envelopes I'm not sure how watching the MC kiss Sage would help break up Chad and Sage. Chad's envelope obviously had evidence of some secret Chad wanted to keep hidden; that seems like a much better tool to force a breakup than hearsay about something Chad already suspects.

For the life of me I just cannot see any way to make sense of their actions, unless they really are just crazy chicks who like to stir up shit and feel very slightly guilty about making Sage feel bad.

Could be Chad is the same as Sage and both see value in the relationship politically.

If we assume Chad is with Melanie (which I suspect due to her asking if Sarah has her back, why would she need someone in her corner if she wasn’t culpable in this whole thing?) and she wants more than being a side chick telling him about MC could make sense. If Chad is into Melanie but can’t leave Sage because of the political advantages she might try and force it.

If the scenario is Chad and Melanie are “in love”... he’s telling her he wants her but it has to be a secret, he can’t leave Sage but Melanie is his one and only. He’s telling Melanie he isn’t really with Sage, he won’t even kiss her anymore. It’s all a facade.

Melanie is sick and tired of being a side chick. She wants the status of being his girl. Maybe she even likes him legitimately. She needs them to blow up without being to blame for snaking Chad. Enter MC.

Melanie tells Chad Sage is publicly kissing MC. She’s into MC and everyone knows. Suddenly being with Sage isn’t an advantage. It’s painting him publicly as a cuck. Sage being his girlfriend stops being a boon.

So Melanie is gonna out Sage and swoop in on Chad. Only explanation I have for why she wants them broken up.

 

[jackofshadows]

Affinity - "something that reveals only under pressure"- also not true, it's not only under pressure. this is also just your assumption, and it's wrong.

That was not my statement but short summary of what Darkmetal said.

What all do respect, you can't win this argument against Darkmetal. just let it go. it's okay to be wrong.
I get it , you don't like it that your choice has consequences.

Dude, are you on drugs? I guess you haven't seen me arguing, I was just comparing his interpretation with how DPC has introduced those systems. And yes, I wasn't aware that the status cup actually exist as it should be. Also I do like consequences in my games, thank you very much.

I just hope that things with all LIs can last as long as possible. I know that there are LIs that can technically be cut off already, but I'd rather get as much content with each of them before having to make any definitive choice. If it comes down to the last couple of episodes to choose, fine, but if this game does indeed go for 16 or 20 episodes and I'm down to just 1 or 2 LIs after ep 8 or 9, then it's not so fun for me anymore.

A choice will come eventually, but I'd like to have as much cake as possible and eat it too before then.

Let's drop for a second all that Sage's "fuck buddies" narrative, how M/J are ok with no string attached stuff and even Bella's encouraging MC to continue pursue Jill because "what happened was one-time thing" and turn to meta-side. So far, as you're well aware, two playthroughs are enough to see pretty much all the content (was there any at staying with Derek? not sure about that) and I'm pretty sure that DPC intend to keep it this way as long as possible because it's a decent balance between players who are demanding all at once (there was some ITT even, I remember) and players who are value grounded setting and believable enough approach (I, for one, wish the game has much more branches and restrictions). After reading Q&A from Feb., my guess is that there're will be almost no major restrictions till the end of season 2 at the very least. Hell, even beyond if the pace of storytelling will continue.

 

[Cpt_Ekko]

Surprised no one chooses Maya at all anymore. For me is
1. Maya
2. Josy
3. Riona

 

[lolmomz13]

On ep 5, I only have 50% for the Josy lewd scene. What am I doing wrong?

 

[Templar Knight]

Still completely confused by this scene.

If we assume Melanie means to call Chad, what does she expect to happen? They didn't take a picture, so all she could tell him is that the MC openly kissed Sage. Isn't that what Chad feared was going on back when he first clashed with the MC back in Episode 1? This might be confirmation of his fears, but why does Melanie think this will make Chad less determined to stick with Sage?

Riona thought Chad attacked the MC over Sage, which is a pretty reasonable guess for anyone who doesn't know about the envelopes. Unless Melanie and Sarah do know about the envelopes, then surely they would likewise assume Chad is already willing to fight the MC over Sage. Meaning he would fight to 'defend' the relationship - practically the opposite of breaking up with her. So why do they think hearing she kissed the MC would reverse Chad's response?

Frankly, even if Melanie and Sarah do know about the envelopes I'm not sure how watching the MC kiss Sage would help break up Chad and Sage. Chad's envelope obviously had evidence of some secret Chad wanted to keep hidden; that seems like a much better tool to force a breakup than hearsay about something Chad already suspects.

For the life of me I just cannot see any way to make sense of their actions, unless they really are just crazy chicks who like to stir up shit and feel very slightly guilty about making Sage feel bad.

man,you have to do a restrospective:
1-It was not explained, however, in the hot's, Quinn and Heather do not want Sage as president, it may be that Melaine and Sarah are united with Heather or Quinn in this or simply have their reasons for not wanting sage in the presidency.
2-Melaine is probably Chad's mistress and it seems that they both like each other in her eyes, removing Sage from Chad's girlfriend will be better for both of them because she and Sarah realized that the MC and she are more than friends, there is already one stronger feeling between them.

So at the end of the day there are two possibilities: they can simply be doing anything to get sage out of the presidency even if it interferes with her personal life and relationships or she simply wants to stay with chad and let the mc stay and take over Sage as his girlfriend so they would both be happy after all, but I think it is unlikely that Sage will just let it go cheap

 

[Templar Knight]

Surprised no one chooses Maya at all anymore. For me is
1. Maya
2. Josy
3. Riona

after you take a relationship omission like that, you just don't feel like going on the Maya / Josy route anymore.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Let's drop for a second all that Sage's "fuck buddies" narrative, how M/J are ok with no string attached stuff and even Bella's encouraging MC to continue pursue Jill because "what happened was one-time thing" and turn to meta-side. So far, as you're well aware, two playthroughs are enough to see pretty much all the content (was there any at staying with Derek? not sure about that) and I'm pretty sure that DPC intend to keep it this way as long as possible because it's a decent balance between players who are demanding all at once (there was some ITT even, I remember) and players who are value grounded setting and believable enough approach (I, for one, wish the game has much more branches and restrictions). After reading Q&A from Feb., my guess is that there're will be almost no major restrictions till the end of season 2 at the very least. Hell, even beyond if the pace of storytelling will continue.

The only thing that staying with Derek got was sex with the stripper Rose, but nothing in terms on the main cast of characters.

I don't mind the relatively grounded feel of this game, and as much as I enjoy looking at it in a deep way and psychoanalysing it a lot, at the end of the day, it's a sex game and should have as much of that content as possible within the context of the story. The MC has also been doing a fairly good job up until now of balancing all these different LIs and keeping it relatively under wraps that he's a serial shagger, with the exception of recently kissing Sage out in the open.

As long as he doesn't put labels on the relationships and keeps things casual for now, then the crucial choices could be kept until near the end, much like AL which had the MC make their decision in episode 6 and eps 7 & 8 then wrapped up the story.

 

[ename144]

I just hope that things with all LIs can last as long as possible. I know that there are LIs that can technically be cut off already, but I'd rather get as much content with each of them before having to make any definitive choice. If it comes down to the last couple of episodes to choose, fine, but if this game does indeed go for 16 or 20 episodes and I'm down to just 1 or 2 LIs after ep 8 or 9, then it's not so fun for me anymore.

A choice will come eventually, but I'd like to have as much cake as possible and eat it too before then.

It's not even clear if those LI really are cut off yet. Maya and Josy's dialog certainly leaves open the possibility that either could get together with a "just friends" MC down the line, if their relationship with each other falls apart again. Likewise an MC who refused to become Sage's fuck buddy flat out tells Sage it was her obsession with Chad that got in the way. So I think it's definitely possible we may not have reached the point where we have to choose a girl for good.

On a technically related note, to verify the wording when the MC talks about turning down Sage, I went to a playthrough where Maya and Josy were the only girls the MC had shown any real interest in. Given that, I find the following juxtaposition simultaneously amusing and very slightly depressing.

Spoiler: You'd think so, Sage

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[Templar Knight]

I'd like to think that the more this game goes on and the more that gets explained, the less theorising there will be. But this episode introduced, like, 6-10 new things that are being talked about, so there's probably not much chance of it slowing down until at least the last couple of episodes, maybe.

But then, when the game is done in 2-4 years, it will be all about dissecting the whole thing and how certain things didn't work out the way people hoped, how certain things didn't make sense in the end, how certain plot threads turned out be pointless, etc, etc. So the discussion of this game is never likely to slow down even after it's finished.

reading this i just remember CJ for gta san andreas,when pink will make another game :
''Ah shit,here we go again.'' xD

 

[Templar Knight]

Did anyone had a change of heart about the girls after ep5? i sure have
so gentlemen your top 3 please, GO!

1. Jill
2. Sage
3. Josy (the best sex scene in the game so far, BRAVO!)

Josy stepped up for me in this episode, first with that beautiful emotional moment with her dad, HOT AF sex scene right after and also at hangout with Maya when she was suprised with Maya's stupid words that we should still keep things casual and have sex with other people. We can see that Josy doesn't want that, she wants MC and that's it

1-Sage
2-Jill
3-Riona

 

[StarWulf]

1) Quinn
2) Sage
3) Bella

Proper answer: Harem.

 

[StarWulf]

I mean that scene heavily implies it's mel

You mean Caleb? Now it all makes sense.

 

[The5thguy]

You mean Caleb? Now it all makes sense.

That'd be one hell of a twist it was Caleb the whole time we were all fools that's why Chad isn't into sage