ename144

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Do you realize you weave longer theories now about release dates then the rest of us combined about possible sex scenes? Frankly, i totally believe you when you said it was a long day at work! You are still have a SFW mindset :coffee: Relax. Drink something. Open a nude picture. Focus on the important stuff :cool:
Hmmmm.

Well, I was going to try to chart out the word count of my update analyses compared to our total inane sex theory output over a similar time frame. But you make a valid point. I'll leave that for another time and enjoy a frothy mug of water instead!
 

shazba

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So she wouldn't be half bad if she would be somebody else entirelly :ROFLMAO: I suppose you are right then :ROFLMAO:
I read that wrong initially too and thought exactly what you're saying, but he's saying she already has "Nice eyes, good bone structure, full lips". So her issues are she's fat with a lousy hairstyle.

Windows XP can run BaDIK I see
Windows XP can do a lotta things. :p

So we're just accepting the lowest part of the percentage because it suits your argument? I can do the same.

50% done at the beginning of January would mean it's done by mid February.
75% done by mid February means the game is released in a week or two.
Why even throw those numbers out there? It's not even close to being true.

The added content will be fantastic - if it actually adds to the story. That is still TBD. A lot of episode 5 added little to the story. DnG was "added" content that was pure filler. The story doesn't gain much from filler like this - it just draws out the narrative.

Look, I love this game - it's my favorite out there. DPC is a fantastic developer. That said, he's not perfect, and criticism is fair game. It's also not unfair to point out that the space between releases continues to grow as his Patreon subscribers grow.
I'm taking the low end of the estimate because that's what you do to get a conservative estimate. You wanna get all hyped up and then disappointed, go ahead and believe an developer's higher end estimate, that's just the real world...

Stating that the development time between progressive episodes is increasing is a fact, no argument from me there.

Stating that the developer's estimates of completion are bullshit when he gave a vague (30-50%) gauge a while back, is unfair.

If you take the highest number from each estimate, it looks like he's struggling:

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If you take the lowest indication, it looks like it's starting to ramp up at the end:

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If you take the mid point of each of his estimates (which would probably be the most sensible thing) there's a slight decrease in productivity near the end:

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I'm not manipulating figures to justify my argument. I'm just not taking the highest possible option and getting worked up over it...
 

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To consider Maya's dad's side of the story you have to understand why he's doing what he's doing.

His goal is not to ruin Maya's life.

Parents try to stop their children from doing things that they believe will hurt them all the time. From when they are little, they stop them from running across the road into traffic, right up until they are adults and they are tying to convince them the guy they are dating is no good for them.

If the dad really believes that Maya will go to hell and suffer for eternity for being gay (which is pretty much the religious angle), that's the worst thing that could ever happen to his little girl. He has to stop her being gay!

Only 5 years ago the US Supreme Court ruled that the constitution guaranteed same sex marriage, and it was a 5-4 vote! At that time, only 18 countries around the world had legalised same sex marriage. Now it's 30 countries, and that's out of almost 200 countries around the world...

So the world has a lot of growing up to do still. And so does Maya's dad... He's not evil, he's just misguided. Just because we don't agree with him or his methods, doesn't mean he's a monster.

However, beating him to a fucking pulp might help enlighten him. :devilish:
But that's just especulation. And I don't think is well guessed. You can also say:
"When Burke saw his wife having sex with MC, he is happy couse he realized his wife is having a good time with a student, and therefore breaking the emotional dependence she had over him. Now, both are free to explore their sexuality". And, yeah, it perfectly could be, but I bet noone of us guess that. And we didn't for the meta-text (don't know the english translation), the way in wich the scene is presented to us, the light, the music, even the apereance the smile had. There is a reason why we all thought the same. And all of that could meant nothing, but you are really beting for the under dog.

Of course parental control can be justified hundreds of times. What we have right now is not like that. He made a serious threat against his own daughter to really screw her, to ACTIVELY condemn her to poverty. He did it as a punishment for a crime is not a crime. And she is 19 years old.
And more important, as it's stand right now, and judging what this people are in the real world, we don't have many reasons to think he would not honour his own threat. Actually we have an important reason to think he will: couse otherwise the story would loose sense and be just a silly misunderstanding.

Yes, you can etically justify it. Ideology, especially religion give that oportunity. But you can also justify to beat a little boy to almoast death to cure his homosexual desires. Or if you like the cruzades, the killing, rape and pillage. You can justify any sort of crimes. And yet we can't, we can't look over all thoose crimes as we can't justify things like the 9/11, and it doesn't matter if in the inside logic of that particular religion it make sense. Because at the end the only thing that remain is the crime.

As we said in my country: "The path to hell is full of good intentions".
 

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Hello guys, i got a question for you... Not sure if i miss something in my gameplay... Do we know who was the guy in Bella's house? I mean, the he sees when he is drunk and wandering in her house while looking for the couch.
 

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Hello guys, i got a question for you... Not sure if i miss something in my gameplay... Do we know who was the guy in Bella's house? I mean, the he sees when he is drunk and wandering in her house while looking for the couch.
The army guy? Thats just a mannequin
 

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I read that wrong initially too and thought exactly what you're saying, but he's saying she already has "Nice eyes, good bone structure, full lips". So her issues are she's fat with a lousy hairstyle.


Windows XP can do a lotta things. :p


I'm taking the low end of the estimate because that's what you do to get a conservative estimate. You wanna get all hyped up and then disappointed, go ahead and believe an developer's higher end estimate, that's just the real world...

Stating that the development time between progressive episodes is increasing is a fact, no argument from me there.

Stating that the developer's estimates of completion are bullshit when he gave a vague (30-50%) gauge a while back, is unfair.

If you take the highest number from each estimate, it looks like he's struggling:

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If you take the lowest indication, it looks like it's starting to ramp up at the end:

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If you take the mid point of each of his estimates (which would probably be the most sensible thing) there's a slight decrease in productivity near the end:

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I'm not manipulating figures to justify my argument. I'm just not taking the highest possible option and getting worked up over it...
You're fine, Shazzy. Some people just feel the need to get worked up over everything.
 

Room639

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I'm taking the low end of the estimate because that's what you do to get a conservative estimate. You wanna get all hyped up and then disappointed, go ahead and believe an developer's higher end estimate, that's just the real world...

Stating that the development time between progressive episodes is increasing is a fact, no argument from me there.

Stating that the developer's estimates of completion are bullshit when he gave a vague (30-50%) gauge a while back, is unfair.
So 30-50% means 30%, 60-75% means 60%... but why even put the higher percentage out there? The fact is that these numbers were never realistic in the first place, but people do get hyped up at the higher numbers (which were ambitious at best and plain false at worse), and DPC is working in an industry where hype=patrons. People may not subscribe if they think a game is 4 months out, but make it seem like it's 6 weeks away and people will sign up. Again, all credit to the game, but the marketing - unrealistic/untruthful numbers and unneccessarily extended release times - is bullshit.

I love the game, but I hate what is becoming of the business model.
 

ename144

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Why is the answer of 14 to 20 episodes confusing to you?

I could imagine that DPC has a list of problems and dramas for BaDIK and works through this list step by step.
It's an estimate from DPC because he can't predict exactly how many episodes he needs for the problems and dramas.

Keep in mind that BaDIK is set at the beginning of the first year in college and if DPC wanted to, he could create more problems and dramas and run BaDIK until EP 50.
Speaking for myself, the problem is that a story needs more than just a list of events that happen. The events need to be linked by the actions of the characters, which in turn need to flow from those characters trying to achieve their various goals. Without that web of action the events will only ever be a list, no more emotionally gripping than the roster of candidates for the 2022 Olympic Men's Biathlon.

Now in theory, you can just keep advancing the narrative in an unending chain of events, as is common in soap operas and comic books. The problem, though, is that the characters are (hopefully) striving to fulfill their goals the whole time. So eventually they really ought to succeed (or definitively fail) at that long-standing goal. If they are stuck chasing the same goal endlessly, things will feel stale. But if they finally succeed (or fail), then not only is the goal no longer able to drive their actions, but these characters should be changed in some way by the experience: they just achieved (or are forced to admit they'll never achieve) their life's ambition, after all.

Now a good author can still make this sort of thing work, by allowing characters to evolve and adding/removing characters over time to shake things up. But that's much, much harder than telling a simple story with only the initial set of goals.

Looking at BaDIK, I see plenty of initial goals, but not a lot of opportunity for secondary goals. The only thing that might serve that function is if the MC does adopt a serious relationship with one (or two) of the LIs, and the story then transitions to how things change from their. That would be pretty ambitious, but a lot harder to work in a game that's primarily about cramming in as many lewd scenes as will fit.

So yeah, I'm nervous at the thought of this going much past three seasons.

tl;dr It's hard to keep adding new dramas to a story without the characters growing stale or altering things the audience initially liked about them.


Not really anything to analyze here. No numbers included except 80% done, which is kind of meaningless when you remember that DPC said he was 30-50% two months ago (which was obviously bullshit).
Oh yee of little faith.

As shazba has already pointed out, that was not bullshit. DPC estimated he was 30-50% complete on January 1. As I said at the time, that roughly translated to a 100% complete date between February 26 and May 14. The latest estimate (March 26 to April 2) falls squarely within that time frame. If anything, this makes DPC look consistent (or, more likely, underscores the value of wide error bars).

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So 30-50% means 30%, 60-75% means 60%... but why even put the higher percentage out there? The fact is that these numbers were never realistic in the first place, but people do get hyped up at the higher numbers (which were ambitious at best and plain false at worse), and DPC is working in an industry where hype=patrons. People may not subscribe if they think a game is 4 months out, but make it seem like it's 6 weeks away and people will sign up. Again, all credit to the game, but the marketing - unrealistic/untruthful numbers and unneccessarily extended release times - is bullshit.

I love the game, but I hate what is becoming of the business model.
30-50% means somewhere between 30% and 50%. It's not complicated. If today's estimate winds up being true, back on January 1 we would have been around 39% complete. That's not only between 30% and 50%, it's relatively close to halfway between them.

What exactly are you complaining about here?


Huh never thought about that. She has sex with us on her parent's bed while subsequently cheating on Maya at the same time. Remind me why she chose her parent's bed of all places?
Probably because her own bed was too small for two people to sleep in with any degree of chastity. Josy obviously wanted extremely unchaste things to happen, but I think she needed the fig leaf that things would stay chaste to help her get past the guilt of cheating on Maya.

That's my guess, anyway.


Don't your bosses understand that your porn game charts are more important that any pish they are asking you to do? :giggle:
Hard to say. For some inexplicable reason the topic has never come up. ;)
 
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Casmyr

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You know what? , I won't Blame you, it is hard to focus on what is she saying :ROFLMAO:
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I can't make it out. Is she saying "I hope your bigger than Steve

Ok ok truce. Im only salty cuz my bday was yesterday and you said you'd come.

Could anyone see the possibility of steve coming to b&r? I know the rejects already came but like next term?
 
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I can't make it out. Is she saying "I hope your bigger than Steve

Ok ok truce. Im only salty cuz my bday was yesterday and you said you'd come.

Could anyone see the possibility of steve coming to b&r? I know the rejects already came but like next term?
No hurt feelings. but I wonder if I put you in to my ignore list, would you still see my comments? :ROFLMAO::p.
 
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