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[tyuiasdf]

I really like this game. It might be my favorite right now.

The final forms of Alex are really good and the new art style is better than the old one. The writing is also good. I liked how more filler art was added in conversations. My preference would be to have a picture of the character you are talking to even if the picture is reused. It would also be fun to have different expressions like when they are listening, learning, happy or sad.

My suggestion is that the game feels like the stats don’t really matter on the other paths. Your seduction progress doesn’t do anything on the manipulation path. And you get locked into the path you choose. So the game part feels like it isn’t there as much as it would be you needed to be strategic with your xp to unlock certain scenes. It feels like there are 3 different linear stories to play not one story with different paths like Inner Bimbo.

It would be fun if there were more choices that really changed the outcome of the story. For example it would be cool if you had the choice to encourage plastic surgery or to keep her as is. Maybe if you don’t encourage her to change, you get the option later? There is something more exciting about the transformation if it optional because then it seems like you are making the choice yourself and not just following automatic story.

great story

 

[Fiddlesticks 3DX]

So, as promised, I've redesigned the looks for Stage 4. The biggest changes are that the poses and expressions for Manipulation and Domination have been redone and are more subdued now, and the breast sizes for all routes have been reduced slightly (they're still bolt-on pornstar titties though!)
I've also designed 4 different looks for each stage, for a some variety and the possibility of mixing and matching from each look.
Feel free to have a look-see and let me know what you guys think!

 

[Jaeger Deflated]

I like the manipulation ones and the seduction ones, but I don't really feel the submission ones are, well, submissive. They come of as more punk than slave (tbf, I don't like their designs in general, especially the piercings).

 

[Kazutoyo]

My favourites are "Califonia Gurl", "Sugar Baby" and "Thrash Raider".

"Thrash Raider" is the clear winner on the submissive route as far as I'm concerned, while the others are more even.

 

[Jaeger Deflated]

Kind of eh on the seduction designs as they're all serviceable but none of them really drew me in, liked all the manipulation ones but Trophy and Footballer's Wife were my favourites. My fave sub one would be Dark Slave.

 

[youpla]

Ok, here is my honest review about the new looks :

- MANIP PATH : I'll begin with these looks as choosing who is the best Alex is, for me, easiest in this path.
And I'll go with Design D. She's classy AND sexy, and we see most of her round breasts. She's the most sexier of the lot.
Design C is not too bad, but her dress is a bit too simple.
Design A and B : too bland.

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- SUB PATH : By far, I prefer Design A.
Design B is too much "Emo", it doesn't fit someone who is submissive. Alex looks much more like ayoung teenager in this one.
Design C is the one I love the most after the A. She looks trashy, and her haircut is really original and rockin' beautiful. But the problem, once again, is that this look doesn't fit with her submissive personnality. On the contrary, Design C Alex looks rebellous : I think you should keep this idea and this haircut for a girl transformed into some kind of Punk-Nasty whore. Maybe a shy teen brainwashed into becoming like that ?
Design D : Alex looks much more dominative than submissive. And her haircut is too common, she doesn't look like a total cum addicted depraved woman.
And so, why Design A ? First of all, her haircut is the best: purple and dark always work together. We can also see the outline of her breasts.
However, there is a BUT. In your current version of the game, I particularly love Alex's expression in her final Dom transformation : licking her lips, eyes semi-closed... She really looks crazy, totally addicted with cum, like a woman who has wholy fallen into depravation and submission. Here, she seems... almost normal if we put aside her clothes. I hope those examples are just there for showing us the differences between each looks, and that these expressions are not the final ones ?
Please, in sub path, make hergo extreme in her tastes ! (plus, if she's licking her lips, maybe it would be the good opportunity to show a tongue piercing ?)

EDIT : Didn't see that, but I miss her previous septum piercing...

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- SEDUCTIVE PATH : It's the most difficult one for me. In my opinion, none of her new looks shows that she has become a total slut. In fact, each choice seems to be the bad combination of elements from different looks :
Design A : Emo Japanese haircut, with slut outfit ----> don't really fit together
Design B : Too bland haircut, and micro skirt that would fit a "loli" character better.
Design C : Socks are less sexy than fishnet. The bandanna on her haircut is original but hides most of it, it's a bit disappointing. And her croptop is totally bland : way not sexy enough compared to croptop in Design A or Design B.
Design D : Nope. It doesn'twork at all for me. Alex lookslike a classy girl, or at least an escort girl.But she's far from her slutty personnality that she has shown during Stage 3 of her therapy.

In fact, it's a bit odd but I think that for Seductive Path you should mixed up some elements from the different designs to really create the perfect Alex. Try this one :
Haircut : Design D
Croptop : Design B (or maybe A)
Shorts : Design C
Stockings : Design A (or B)

If I would have to choose right now, I would go with Design C. But she looks more "cool" than "slutty".
And same thing than for the Sub Path : the expressions on her face don't fit with her slutty personnality. She seems almost nice, not like a total slut ready to jump at someone's dick and wanting to take the lead.
Once again, I hopethose are just examples you did without working on Alex's behaviour.

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I hope all of that will be useful to you.

 

[ashrana88]

That is a lot of effort to put into design concepts, the character models all look utterly fantastic! I hope you didn't get too wrapped up in this and burn yourself out, because your work is already excellent.

My thoughts are honestly pretty similar to Youpla, I personally tried the "manipulation" path and felt the final transformation was a bit on the bland side in comparison to more exotic fashion a "bimbo" could have, but the new concepts look great.

 

[Dubious Developers]

That is a lot of effort to put into design concepts, the character models all look utterly fantastic! I hope you didn't get too wrapped up in this and burn yourself out, because your work is already excellent.

Don't worry: character design is Fiddlestick's favorite part of the job. Which is why we don't mind redesigning.

We really appreciate the feedback so far! It's really helpful! Thanks everyone!

 

[Fiddlesticks 3DX]

That is a lot of effort to put into design concepts, the character models all look utterly fantastic! I hope you didn't get too wrapped up in this and burn yourself out, because your work is already excellent.

My thoughts are honestly pretty similar to Youpla, I personally tried the "manipulation" path and felt the final transformation was a bit on the bland side in comparison to more exotic fashion a "bimbo" could have, but the new concepts look great.

Thanks very much, I'm glad to hear people have at least one favorite among the new designs!

As Cassie said, designing the characters is actually my favorite part of working on the game - even more than the sex scenes actually! Between working on the game and working on my own stuff that I post on Slushe or DeviantArt, I do tend to get burned out from time to time though. Right now I'm taking a short break for a few days while I wait for feedback on the new designs. Then I'm going to finalize Alex's final look, and after that we're going to start work on v0.4!

 

[victkh]

1. Seduction
Best is D, but she is too classy for slutty seduction route (maybe fishnets?)
Haircut is 100% perfect in D
2. Manip route
D perfect
3. Sub
C or D. Lips piercing is not looking good, its more about gothic chick
Best haircut in A

 

[Synizer]

Every single one of these are massive improvments from the originals. Love the fact that even though she has changed so much you can look at the first image for Alex and then compare it to her final forms and you can still see it's her.

Picking between them;

I'd go D for Seduction, as unlike others saying it's too classy and not slutty enough, I think it's the opposite because its the only one werein she just has to hike up her skirt a bit to give instant access and she can follow her early stages of going commando for that. I would say that switching the top half to something strapless would also be beneficial as I can't image its easy to get access to her tits the way it goes around her head. Finally the hairstyle is a 10/10 but maybe a bit more vibrant purple on the ponytail section of it.

Before I say my Manipulation favorite, I just want to say how much of an amazing improvement each and every one of these is. You've managed to capture that Queen Bee asthetic perfectly. I'd be choosing B but with D's hairs. I know others like the more slutty D but to me the belt around the upper chest just puts me off.

Finally Domination, I am so torn between C and D. C would win if it had B's skirt, as I think the shaved head combined with long hair is such a classic BDSM\Sub style and the fact it shows off her arm tattoo is a massive yes over it being covered up in A and B. As for D I can see where others have said she looks too dominant but then again having her be slightly dominate around some people then being totally submission around you is extremely hot as well. Her ponytail on that one is again another 10/10 because for an oral based transformation it probably offers the best options in terms of story\scenes for her. So yeah torn between the two and would be very happy with either.

 

[tyuiasdf]

For me best are D B D.

But now that you have all these why not use all? What if there were some decisions that push her to look like one or another of these designs?

Sed with high manip could be D. Dom with high sed should be D. Dom with high manip could be C. Manip with low sed and dom could be C.

The story could add dialogue choices to push Alex towards one of these outcomes too? Maybe too much work, but it would add a lot to feeling like a game and not a comic with a game interface. Still awesome tho.

 

[riji]

So, as promised, I've redesigned the looks for Stage 4. The biggest changes are that the poses and expressions for Manipulation and Domination have been redone and are more subdued now, and the breast sizes for all routes have been reduced slightly (they're still bolt-on pornstar titties though!)
I've also designed 4 different looks for each stage, for a some variety and the possibility of mixing and matching from each look.
Feel free to have a look-see and let me know what you guys think!
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Raider one with a hair closer to a previous stage and some sort of a short, open-front jacket would have been perfect.

 

[frollep]

Yeah, a good number of people have mentioned that the jump from stage 3 to stage 4 felt like it was skipping a step, which is a fair point. The idea was that the first 3 stages would be a gradual buildup, with stage 3 being the point where she becomes completely susceptible to anything you tell her. At the end of Stage 3 you cut the brake lines and push her totally over the edge with that blunt little speech telling "she wants/needs" to be a sub/slut/trophy wife (and already is one deep down). After that, the old Alex is gone forever; she gets plastic surgery and a whole new wardrobe in Stage 4 to show her complete transformation and immersion in her new persona.
But the final look probably pushed her too far. So what I'm doing now is redesigning her Stage 4 looks; toning down the outrageousness of her wardrobe, and reducing her breast size slightly from the big balloon tits she had originally (they'll still be big though). The new looks will still be a fair jump from Stage 3, but hopefully they'll be more believable for everyone.

She actually has two different names in her Stage 4 Dom route; "Lex" is how she introduces herself in public, but "Cumdumpster" is sort of her slave/sub name. She won't be referring to herself as "Cumdumpster" all the time.

Yep, the Stage 4 Manip look was the least-liked, so I've already redesigned that from the ground up. Her face and expression in particular are much improved.

And glad you're enjoying the game! Thanks a lot!



The Stage 4 looks are being redesigned and toned down slightly, but her outfits will still be a little outlandish. The bolt-on boobs are also going to be reduced in size by about half, but they're part of her transformation and that's not going to change - it's a key part of the Bimbofication kink, really.
If that's not your thing, then that's understandable; some stuff in the game isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. But thanks for playing, regardless.

The sizes and proportions are pretty tame compared to most other bimbofication, that's true. But that's my personal taste and style; I love big tits as much as the next guy, but I still prefer to keep things realistic and believable - the tits will still be big, but the wardrobes will be scandalously slutty and skimpy however!

Somebody mentioned artists like DevilHs and The Pitt earlier, both of whom I'm a massive fan of. Even though the proportions on their characters are lot larger and way more unrealistic, it works brilliantly with their artstyles. With mine, those same proportions often end up looking grotesque or deformed (at least to my eyes). While that might appeal to some people, it's a big turn-off for me personally.

way more unrealistic? man i can show you a lot of women who look like that irl. I am kind of inside the plastic surgery biz and i can tell you those proportions will become more and more common as the years go by.
I am definitely against reducing the implants' size and i advise you guys to try and be more daring with the transformations.
I especially liked Alex's stage 4 dom route and hope to see her becoming even bigger in the next stage. If you want to do bimbofications you should do them all the way!
It would be fun to see the character we meet in the gym have a "muscle-growth" route , i know it's a niche fetish but you can't only do bimbofications right?

 

[Dubious Developers]

For me best are D B D.

But now that you have all these why not use all? What if there were some decisions that push her to look like one or another of these designs?

Sed with high manip could be D. Dom with high sed should be D. Dom with high manip could be C. Manip with low sed and dom could be C.

The story could add dialogue choices to push Alex towards one of these outcomes too? Maybe too much work, but it would add a lot to feeling like a game and not a comic with a game interface. Still awesome tho.

Yeah, that is sadly impossible. Sure, we have all those portraits, but the game isn't just these portraits. There are also sex scenes, and each sex scene is a complex render that need to be rendered separately for each look, as each piece of clothing behave differently when posed. Right now, sex scene have an average of 3 render a piece, times three paths, for a total of nine renders. Your idea would inflate this number to 36 renders per sex scene. Unless I discover the secret of cloning and can duplicate Fiddlesticks a few times, we just can't deliver this with the ressources we have. Sorry.

Not to mention that the final look will mix and match from the looks above according to the feedback we got, so using all four looks as is wouldn't work.

 

[tyuiasdf]

Yeah, that is sadly impossible. Sure, we have all those portraits, but the game isn't just these portraits. There are also sex scenes, and each sex scene is a complex render that need to be rendered separately for each look, as each piece of clothing behave differently when posed. Right now, sex scene have an average of 3 render a piece, times three paths, for a total of nine renders. Your idea would inflate this number to 36 renders per sex scene. Unless I discover the secret of cloning and can duplicate Fiddlesticks a few times, we just can't deliver this with the ressources we have. Sorry.

Not to mention that the final look will mix and match from the looks above according to the feedback we got, so using all four looks as is wouldn't work.

No worries. Just a thought. I was thinking that you could keep the hair the same and then you would only need to adjust the clothes as is now finished. Would just be for when she shows up at the office the first time. Then the rest of the scene could have no clothes.

Not trying to add extra work. Keep up the good work. Big fan.

mostly I am just making suggestions to try to take advantage of the fact this is a game and not a comic. The more choices affecting outcomes the more fun and the more replay. I think some people complaining about the game having grind comes from the fact that the game is mostly a linear story with 3 paths and not a lot of choices affecting paths like inspiration Inner Bimbo.

but I’m a big fan don’t take suggestions as critic.

 

[Fiddlesticks 3DX]

way more unrealistic? man i can show you a lot of women who look like that irl. I am kind of inside the plastic surgery biz and i can tell you those proportions will become more and more common as the years go by.
I am definitely against reducing the implants' size and i advise you guys to try and be more daring with the transformations.
I especially liked Alex's stage 4 dom route and hope to see her becoming even bigger in the next stage. If you want to do bimbofications you should do them all the way!
It would be fun to see the character we meet in the gym have a "muscle-growth" route , i know it's a niche fetish but you can't only do bimbofications right?

While I'm open to doing more "daring" transformations, it's a case of both my own personal tastes, and how far I can go without deforming the character. I like big tits as much as the next guy, and a lot of my favorite pieces from my favorite artists use breast sizes that would be like 3000cc or something in real life; Jenny Summers by "The Pitt" would be a good example. While I love his characters and art, that size would be completely unattractive to me in real life (with very few exceptions). If I could do that size in 3D and still make the character look attractive (again, by my own personal tastes), I would. Unfortunately, I can't... currently.

If you're looking for a "hardbody" bimbo, I'd advise you to keep an eye on Tara, the girl you meet in the gym...

 

[jcSuperstud]

While I'm open to doing more "daring" transformations, it's a case of both my own personal tastes, and how far I can go without deforming the character. I like big tits as much as the next guy, and a lot of my favorite pieces from my favorite artists use breast sizes that would be like 3000cc or something in real life; Jenny Summers by "The Pitt" would be a good example. While I love his characters and art, that size would be completely unattractive to me in real life (with very few exceptions). If I could do that size in 3D and still make the character look attractive (again, by my own personal tastes), I would. Unfortunately, I can't... currently.

If you're looking for a "hardbody" bimbo, I'd advise you to keep an eye on Tara, the girl you meet in the gym...

Finally, a developer who agrees with me. I like big tits as much as the next guy, but I also like it when the girl looks at least human.
Most transformations in games and comics I see will get to a point that I am happy with 2/3 in and after that get a little bit (Or sometimes very) weird.

So good to know theres some reassurance that that won't happen here

 

[victkh]

Yes, sizes more than 2000cc is absolutely absurd and unrealistic.

 

[KinkyFoxXX]

The only option I get is talk about style what do I do?