Mortarion

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That's kinda true man, as much as I love this VN it definitely needs proof readers.



I understand english isn't ocean's first language but the dialogue suffers from being stiff and robotic sometimes because of its weird structure

The protagonist sometimes says shit no human being says and complicates it so much so that it feels like a waste of breath to say things that way lmao
I think that is a cultural/language thing. For me, as a fellow german, are the most conversations perfectly to understand. In my opinion - just my - it has something to do how the german language is structured. I asume heavyly that the story is written in german and translated after into englisch. And this could be the problem.

In German, there are so many ways to write and embellish a text and describe things that are simply not possible in English. (To be clear, that is no englisch bashing, and i have no intention to insult someone in any way)

The best example seems to be the good old "the". In English one word for everything, in German we have three words for it:

derrelative pronoun masculinethe
dierelative pronoun femininethe
dasrelative pronoun objectivethe

That's the way it is in the whole german language. It should be clear that extremely convoluted texts may then be easier for a German speaker to understand, or that he simply thinks nothing of it because our texts are always structured in this way - while a native English speaker will certainly pull his hair out when reading the translations.

And i'm sure that for a native speaker my post is a perfect example of what I just wanted to explain. :ROFLMAO:
 
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We weren't mixed in highschool, only at uni and it wasn't competitive either. We had PE after school though if someone was trying for competitive tourneys, I had after school chess lessons and games while at grammar school for example. So for me the basketball game in SG wasn't weird at all.
It's weird because realistically a 5'2 female with double E tits isn't going to be flying through the air dunking on people. It's supposed to be competitive but in the real world those girls would get smoked by dudes. It's like a scene out of an anime, "I will use a clever distraction to go by this girl!" "Haha this dwarf will be able to sneak past the other team!" When really the dwarf would get his shit swatted constantly and the girls would get bodied. I KNOW IT'S A FANTASY GAME, JUST SAYING.
 

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It's weird because realistically a 5'2 female with double E tits isn't going to be flying through the air dunking on people. It's supposed to be competitive but in the real world those girls would get smoked by dudes. It's like a scene out of an anime, "I will use a clever distraction to go by this girl!" "Haha this dwarf will be able to sneak past the other team!" When really the dwarf would get his shit swatted constantly and the girls would get bodied. I KNOW IT'S A FANTASY GAME, JUST SAYING.
Muggsy Bogues was 5'3 and was a good NBA player. Sure short players can't dunk, but that doesn't mean they couldn't shoot, pass the ball or intercept as good as anyone else. I said myself that I don't think Damien will cut it in the first team because he's not technically gifted. He can be a surprise factor for one game, like the one they want to win against the first team, and that could work. And even that is a question mark since the first team has scouted them during this practice game, so they've seen how MC used Damien. But once the surprise factor is gone in a league, he'd be indeed useless if he doesn't have top technical skills at basketball. That doesn't mean height is everything, and a short girl can be a threat. But not someone as uninterested and unskilled as Mila assigned to the 3 point corner :)
 
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Wait, aren't those tags a bit misleading? Futa/ trans? groping? domination? Ii's been 3rd episode and not a single lewd or adult content...

Btw - how many episodes are there going to be? 5? 6? 7? It looks like at least 2 more. So if the first came out in 2019, now is 2021 and it's 3rd... does it mean at least two years until finished product??
Should we tell him guys
 

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Wait, aren't those tags a bit misleading? Futa/ trans? groping? domination? Ii's been 3rd episode and not a single lewd or adult content...

Btw - how many episodes are there going to be? 5? 6? 7? It looks like at least 2 more. So if the first came out in 2019, now is 2021 and it's 3rd... does it mean at least two years until finished product??
Why don't you take a seat, man...

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Btw - how many episodes are there going to be? 5? 6? 7? It looks like at least 2 more. So if the first came out in 2019, now is 2021 and it's 3rd... does it mean at least two years until finished product??
Here dude, sit down and have a sandwich first
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Once upon a time, there was a man named Ocean...

*aight someone tell him the rest*
 
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I really think you all are missing the mark here lol. I believe the robotic way the MC talks is intentional, it's a way to show just how unsocialized he is compared to the other characters. I mean this person has been avoiding all social contact for years and years of course he doesn't speak like a normal person and the other characters have made fun of him for it at times. But as you mentioned it has been getting better in chapter 3.5 and I think that's also intentional to help show his growth as his friends help socialize him and make him more normal. Of course he talks like an overly poetic robot, he doesn't know any colloquialisms or vernacular because he hasn't been involved in society to learn them so talks like a person who knows English from reading lofty books and sad poetry lol.
Interesting theory, but not backed up with facts. He meets characters in the story that he went to high school with. I don't care what world you are in, but going to high school is very different from "avoiding all social contact" and it is ridiculous to assert that he doesn't know any colloquialisms or vernacular because he hasn't been involved in society for the same reasons.

The assertion by Mortarion that the broken English is a result of translating from original German content (Germlish?) makes more sense. This would suggest that better translating is probably a good idea, as what could be happening here is transliterating rather than actually translating, where content from the German is (more or less) being translated with the same structure and syntax of German without properly rendering it in a way that is readily consumable by native English speakers.

I stand by my original point. In all other respects, this is an outstanding VN, and especially from the visual aspects, one of the best I have ever seen. Getting either better translation or better editing would really help it over the hump and make it perhaps not "one of" but perhaps the best of the genre across the board.
 

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I'm also someone who is wondering who the trans character is and if they are romanceable. I am on Bella's path, so maybe that's why I missed the trans revelation...

It seems *highly unlikely* that she's one of the girls playing basketball because those pants left nothing to the imagination.

Maybe Maja, Victoria's sister? Maybe Bella's Aunt? Can someone clue me in please?
 
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I'm also someone who is wondering who the trans character is and if they are romanceable. I am on Bella's path, so maybe that's why I missed the trans revelation...

It seems *highly unlikely* that she's one of the girls playing basketball because those pants left nothing to the imagination.

Maybe Maja, Victoria's sister? Maybe Bella's Aunt? Can someone clue me in please?
It hasn't been revealed yet.

We only know 2 things

1 - It's a girl (that turns boy if you enable the trans option)

2 - The girl in question was only introduced in chapter 3.
 
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It hasn't been revealed yet.

We only know 2 things

1 - It's a girl (that turns boy if you enable the trans option)

2 - The girl in question was only introduced in chapter 3.
So it's a trans girl (born male, identifies as female)? Cool. Looking forward to finding out who she is.

Nia is out because of her cam girl status. Her being trans would have definitely been commented on by Nami.

If it's Robin, Nancy, Sasha, or Zara they are indeed masters of tuckage.

My money is on Nancy simply because we haven't have as many pelfie shots of her yet.
 

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Words Can't describe how much I love this Game, the wow factor is off the scale, there are 3 games @ the moment (this is one them) that have RAISED THE BAR to a whole new level, Renders are amazing, the story is great and beautifully written, the music tracks set the atmosphere! the list just goes on ! WOW! it just has it all ! if i could give 6 Stars I would a drop of hat ! fantastic DEVS ! i cant say anymore !
 

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Nami 4K Wallpaper by Lady Aspen

Holy F.... Thanks for the new wallpaper homie. and whoever made it, wow.

Truth be told, i actually love the new improved versions of 1st chapter and everything, like its actallly day and night difference, and its pretty worth waiting renders for so long. u can really enjoy much more in story, and i cant wait for new WIAB.

Thank you Oceanlab
 
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