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Hmm.. now that you say it, in my country we were kinda mixed in PE class in highschool, but it was by no mean competitive. And no more PE class after high school (college or university)
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We weren't mixed in highschool, only at uni and it wasn't competitive either. We had PE after school though if someone was trying for competitive tourneys, I had after school chess lessons and games while at grammar school for example. So for me the basketball game in SG wasn't weird at all.
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Ummmm .... I hate to bring this up as I am enjoying the game so much, but it's "martial arts studio", not "martarial arts studio". May I respectfully suggest either spell check or a proofreader, as it detracts from the otherwise incredible visuals of the game? I would definitely suggest either a proofreader or professional writer before you go "big time" as the amazing visuals, which surpass 95% of what I have seen would definitely suggest that you are going in that direction, if not doing demos for a professional career in the animation field.
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That's kinda true man, as much as I love this VN it definitely needs proof readers.
I understand english isn't ocean's first language but the dialogue suffers from being stiff and robotic sometimes because of its weird structure
The protagonist sometimes says shit no human being says and complicates it so much so that it feels like a waste of breath to say things that way lmao
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Right or wrong she is my favorite character, can't detour from the story and make her a step or adopted to soften the punch unfortunately. But! In a do or die scenario (or any other) this is the person you want at your side.
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"So that's it huh anon? We're some kind of Summer's Gone (2019)?"
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While I may have not been so brutal because I am a fellow game developer, your criticism is not without merit. A proofreader, or someone that has a decent grasp of colloquial English, is definitely needed here. The author's visual skills are definitely without question, but the deficits in the actual storytelling are distracting from what is arguably one of the best VNs out there.
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I'll actually take back bits of what I have said, it has gotten better, specially in the bits of the newly remade scenes in chapter 1.
And it's not as if the whole dialogue in-game is bad and incomprehensible, it's not, it's just that conversations sometimes don't flow naturally because the way the words are structured seem - how do I say this right - inefficient to native speakers; which is why it comes off as something living, breathing and speaking people don't say.
Like the protagonist's hair, I've actually gotten used to it, but some people who are keen on dialogue might not take it well, ocean definitely needs a proofreader and a grammar checker guy.
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When the MC eventually visits Ayua's martial arts studio in the near future I wonder who else might be there. An older Miru, Katie Zane or one or more of the Zane clan maybe? He's also got a sleepover booked at Victoria's with Victoria and Mila, while Maja is away, a game playing session with Nadia, Nancy and friends to attend with Nami, and a luxurious upmarket gala to go to with Bella at some point to look forward to.>Kung fu
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Our favourite anti-hero is going to be quite a busy boy all things considered whether he wants to be or not. I really think you all are missing the mark here lol. I believe the robotic way the MC talks is intentional, it's a way to show just how unsocialized he is compared to the other characters. I mean this person has been avoiding all social contact for years and years of course he doesn't speak like a normal person and the other characters have made fun of him for it at times. But as you mentioned it has been getting better in chapter 3.5 and I think that's also intentional to help show his growth as his friends help socialize him and make him more normal. Of course he talks like an overly poetic robot, he doesn't know any colloquialisms or vernacular because he hasn't been involved in society to learn them so talks like a person who knows English from reading lofty books and sad poetry lol.
I think it actually helps with the story building and the characters having their own voices. A lot of the characters do talk like normal people even if that means the English isn't always grammatically correct just like 99% of people don't talk with perfect grammar in real life spoken dialogue even if they write that way lol. I think it's a nice change to have character's with real voices unlike most VNs where the only way to distinguish which character is talking is by reading the name on the text box because they all sound EXACTLY the same! With SG you can tell by how the characters talk whether it's the MC, Bella, Nami, etc. and that is missing from sooo many other VNs.
There are of course some spelling errors like the "Martial Arts" example but Ocean has a proofreader as he has said in Patron posts so i'm sure those will be caught but hopefully the voices of the characters stay the same and they talk in weird ways sometimes or don't always have perfect grammar because that's how real people talk. And i'm sure we will see the MC talk more normal and wax less poetically as he becomes more of a normal socialized adult and less of an outcast who doesn't talk to anyone and shuns all social contact lol.
I think it actually helps with the story building and the characters having their own voices. A lot of the characters do talk like normal people even if that means the English isn't always grammatically correct just like 99% of people don't talk with perfect grammar in real life spoken dialogue even if they write that way lol. I think it's a nice change to have character's with real voices unlike most VNs where the only way to distinguish which character is talking is by reading the name on the text box because they all sound EXACTLY the same! With SG you can tell by how the characters talk whether it's the MC, Bella, Nami, etc. and that is missing from sooo many other VNs.
There are of course some spelling errors like the "Martial Arts" example but Ocean has a proofreader as he has said in Patron posts so i'm sure those will be caught but hopefully the voices of the characters stay the same and they talk in weird ways sometimes or don't always have perfect grammar because that's how real people talk. And i'm sure we will see the MC talk more normal and wax less poetically as he becomes more of a normal socialized adult and less of an outcast who doesn't talk to anyone and shuns all social contact lol.
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I can't really blame him for missing the scene, because if I remember correctly, it only shows up if you don't kiss Bella. And let's be honest, not kissing Bella is hard. Really hard.
I could be wrong but I think that part actually shows up whether the MC had kissed Bella or not. I think it's part of the conversation in the locker room about the MC/Robin situation which led to Nami saying the girls can't have MC.I can't really blame him for missing the scene, because if I remember correctly, it only shows up if you don't kiss Bella. And let's be honest, not kissing Bella is hard. Really hard.
It is, but that conversation is different depending on whether you kissed Bella or not.
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Same model as in 'Summer of Love' and 'TP: The Class Next door': Sinisa HD
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Just checked, and the scene, where Ayua talks about wanting to have sex with the MC only happens if you didn't kiss Bella and got caught with Robin in the bathroom stall. The whole thing is triggered by Bella getting jealous when hearing about the bathroom stall incident and the girls realizing she is in love with the MC.
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I think that is a cultural/language thing. For me, as a fellow german, are the most conversations perfectly to understand. In my opinion - just my - it has something to do how the german language is structured. I asume heavyly that the story is written in german and translated after into englisch. And this could be the problem.
In German, there are so many ways to write and embellish a text and describe things that are simply not possible in English. (To be clear, that is no englisch bashing, and i have no intention to insult someone in any way)
The best example seems to be the good old "the". In English one word for everything, in German we have three words for it:
| der | relative pronoun masculine | the |
| die | relative pronoun feminine | the |
| das | relative pronoun objective | the |
That's the way it is in the whole german language. It should be clear that extremely convoluted texts may then be easier for a German speaker to understand, or that he simply thinks nothing of it because our texts are always structured in this way - while a native English speaker will certainly pull his hair out when reading the translations.
And i'm sure that for a native speaker my post is a perfect example of what I just wanted to explain.
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It's weird because realistically a 5'2 female with double E tits isn't going to be flying through the air dunking on people. It's supposed to be competitive but in the real world those girls would get smoked by dudes. It's like a scene out of an anime, "I will use a clever distraction to go by this girl!" "Haha this dwarf will be able to sneak past the other team!" When really the dwarf would get his shit swatted constantly and the girls would get bodied. I KNOW IT'S A FANTASY GAME, JUST SAYING.