VN Ren'Py Abandoned By Midsummer Moonlight [Ep. 2] [Mimir's Lab]

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echizen128

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What the fuck? I was really enjoying this, invested in every character, and felt sure it was going on my watch list. And then that scene in Victoria's room...why give the player a choice if you're just going to ignore it? And in that way, at that stage of the story? I am totally baffled. If it's just that you needed some motivating event, I'd go back to the drawing board.

EDIT: Plus you already have one, as described in the synopsis. The MC joining the army, and how that affects the people who care about him...I don't know why Victoria needed to be given all agency in the MCs relationships.
 
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m4pII

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I don't quite understand why the ending was changed.
I'm not saying it is bad ... but why?
 

m4pII

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Because the dev is a push over, it was changed due to complaints lol
It is sad. Personally, I liked the old ending .. it was logical or something.
The cunning Victoria, realizing her fantasies, takes advantage of Aubrey's despair, tricks her (or she really sees that Aubrey is in love with him) and makes her do something that she herself would never dare to, along the way provoking a chain of events that will change the family.

It is even sadder that, unfortunately, the author is easily influenced by whining and criticism. The same people will now whine after every update demanding to change something.
I would not want to support a game in which the dev does not have his own vision.
 

juan palote

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Yeah, I always find it remarkable that the "special" people on here seem to dictate so much of what some devs do in their games. I don't see a reason why there can't be married and faithful men and women who the MC is unable to fuck. But then there are the people who believe any female character that exists in a game must be fuckable. No reason at all that there can't be a male character who isn't going to fuck people, doesn't have to be gay or asexual just not fucking the women who are all magnetically and inexplicably attracted to the MC.

<shrug> Porn logic seems to win every time.

I dont think many people have issues with being marries couples in games. The issue is, just like in life, you dont have to watch them having sex. Its different, and not every people are into voyeurism.

Is there a married couple in the game? Fantastic. Do i want to see them having sex? Not really
 

DrFree

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People whining about valid criticisms and an author trying to improve smh.

Liked the game. Never tried the first version, so I'm working with the reworked one and it made sense.
" The cunning Victoria, realizing her fantasies, takes advantage of Aubrey's despair, tricks her and makes her do something that she herself would never dare to" sounds good on paper, but you have to be kidding if you make a character go from "find your true love" prude to "Let's fuck this dude because my friend said so"

Pacing, guys. You can't go from 0 to 100 in one sitting lmao.
 

Sunflare

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A solution to make everyone happy could be that we keep the Victoria mental pressure, Audrey refuse see the chain so she knows it is the MC then decide to get fucked as she is in love with him :
-> Vitoria happy that Audrey have sex
-> Audrey happy to have sex with MC
-> MC happy to have sex
 

Cornfield

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I have downloaded and installed the revised Incest patch m(followed instructions) and still get the "Script Error" message.
I have downloaded the whole game again and tried it, same problem>
Any ideas please ?
 

m4pII

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People whining about valid criticisms and an author trying to improve smh.

Liked the game. Never tried the first version, so I'm working with the reworked one and it made sense.
" The cunning Victoria, realizing her fantasies, takes advantage of Aubrey's despair, tricks her and makes her do something that she herself would never dare to" sounds good on paper, but you have to be kidding if you make a character go from "find your true love" prude to "Let's fuck this dude because my friend said so"

Pacing, guys. You can't go from 0 to 100 in one sitting lmao.
I don't see any problems with the tempo, because in my understanding after the scene, the MC remained the same. Remained at the same level.
Aubrey has changed. And it fits well with her behavior.
She desperately wants sex,
She is frightened by the prospect of going back to school for girls, for two years, without knowing what sex is.
She has a manipulative girlfriend supplying her with porn and sex stories. That situation in the room, with Aubrey's modesty, is one chance in a thousand.
With complete anonymity and the indicated motivation, I do not see any problems with the fact that she uses this chance, subsequently changing and actually moving the first chapters of the story.

But it is already as it is. I feel that the author will redo every chapter 10 times in order to please the noisy crowd.
 

HHTG

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Looks like it's really hard to understand for some people why the change makes sense, but lets go slow so everybody understands:
-Aubrey is in love with the MC.
-Her "friend" decides to make her fuck someone.
-Even if the person that she wants Aubrey to fuck is the MC, the one she's in love, she doesn't know it.
-She would have changed from wanting to save her first time to someone special to some random person that her "friend" found.
And all of this would have happened out of nowhere.

This way should be easy to everybody do understand the change, at least I hope so.
 

m4pII

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Looks like it's really hard to understand for some people why the change makes sense, but lets go slow so everybody understands:
-Aubrey is in love with the MC.
-Her "friend" decides to make her fuck someone.
-Even if the person that she wants Aubrey to fuck is the MC, the one she's in love, she doesn't know it.
-She would have changed from wanting to save her first time to someone special to some random person that her "friend" found.
And all of this would have happened out of nowhere.

This way should be easy to everybody do understand the change, at least I hope so.
I played 2 times in different versions, and did not see that it would be said that she "loves" him. Did I miss something?
This is assumed by the player.

I have the impression that she herself does not understand her feelings and what she wants.
I did not see that she had a goal to lose her virginity with him. She may have been looking for someone "special" like him, but not specifically an MC.

What's done is done, but in my opinion, it would be more interesting if, having done it with her brother, after the shock and contradictory feelings, she realized that she was glad that it was him .... no matter how silly it sounds.

Now, she watched as the brother, with whom she was supposedly in love, fucking her best friend.
We came from the fact that Victoria supposedly knew about her crush and wanted to help, to the fact that she betrays her.
 

HHTG

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Fine lets ignore the part of the love for the MC, since is only implied and since we can't really read other characters toughts, which would been weird, she still want's her first time to be special, that last scene would only make her seen like a really easily manipulated person or worse, since before the game started, and looks like the dev decided that none of those was the way that he wanted her to be.
 

eddie987

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Fine lets ignore the part of the love for the MC, since is only implied and since we can't really read other characters toughts, which would been weird, she still want's her first time to be special, that last scene would only make her seen like a really easily manipulated person or worse, since before the game started, and looks like the dev decided that none of those was the way that he wanted her to be.
Well, a dude sitting casually in a bedroom with headphones on, a paper bag on his head and his dick out, is special in his own way, but I'm pretty sure she didn't mean that kind of special...

What some people don't want to understand is that a woman who is so easily manipulated into jumping on random cocks, just because someone told her to, wouldn't still be a virgin at that age... It's as simple as that.
No one goes from "I'm waiting for someone special" to "Sure, I'll lose my virginity to a random dude with no protection" in a matter of seconds, unless of course we're talking about slut-sims, but I'm pretty much this is not that type of game...
 

m4pII

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Fine lets ignore the part of the love for the MC, since is only implied and since we can't really read other characters toughts, which would been weird, she still want's her first time to be special, that last scene would only make her seen like a really easily manipulated person or worse, since before the game started, and looks like the dev decided that none of those was the way that he wanted her to be.
Yes and no.
The game mentions that Victoria is very smart and always achieves what she wants.
The conversation on the toilet is not accidental. She hints that Aubrey is in love (even Aubrey herself does not understand what she wants) and I have the impression that she already had a plan on how to "step over this line", which her friend would never dare to do.
It brought together desire to help, manipulation, excitement, despair and insecurity.
End justifies the means.
Well, a dude sitting casually in a bedroom with headphones on, a paper bag on his head and his dick out, is special in his own way, but I'm pretty sure she didn't mean that kind of special...

What some people don't want to understand is that a woman who is so easily manipulated into jumping on random cocks, just because someone told her to, wouldn't still be a virgin at that age... It's as simple as that.
No one goes from "I'm waiting for someone special" to "Sure, I'll lose my virginity to a random dude with no protection" in a matter of seconds, unless of course we're talking about slut-sims, but I'm pretty much this is not that type of game...
Come on. In reality, most of the time, "nice girls waiting for someone special" lose their virginity with some random "badboy" in the back seat of his car.
 

eddie987

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Come on. In reality, most of the time, "nice girls waiting for someone special" lose their virginity with some random "badboy" in the back seat of his car.
Again, if she was that "easy", she wouldn't be a virgin at that age. Also even those "nice girls" you mentioned, don't get into random cars and find dudes with their dicks out. There's usually alcohol involved or at least some sort of a date before they get to that point and if you want to go for stereotypes, they are not random "bad boys", but douchebags they know and think they can "fix".
 

HHTG

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Well I'm done trying to explain the possible why for the change from the dev's point of view, since you really seem stuck that on your own opinion, since I don't care about the change that much either way, the way Victoria is introduce and the way that she acts is the only problem for me.
 
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BTLD

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Again, if she was that "easy", she wouldn't be a virgin at that age. Also even those "nice girls" you mentioned, don't get into random cars and find dudes with their dicks out. There's usually alcohol involved or at least some sort of a date before they get to that point and if you want to go for stereotypes, they are not random "bad boys", but douchebags they know and think they can "fix".
I think it's pointless to try and argue with their vision of a virgin/pure girl
because apparently all of them lose their virginities if not to a bad boy then to a gang bang probably .. who knows ..
I mean I reckon it's impossible and there's no way of happening for a virgin to not want to lose her virginity in a scenario like this one .. nope sir ...
if it doesn't involve some kind of shitty situation it's not artistic enough for them
 

m4pII

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Again, if she was that "easy", she wouldn't be a virgin at that age. Also even those "nice girls" you mentioned, don't get into random cars and find dudes with their dicks out. There's usually alcohol involved or at least some sort of a date before they get to that point and if you want to go for stereotypes, they are not random "bad boys", but douchebags they know and think they can "fix".
I thought she was a virgin because she went to a girls' school.
And how is the fact that she was being manipulated related to her supposed "easy"?

If she does not do this, then for another 2 years she will not have any chances. Add to that insecurity, excitement, anonymity, and fear.

Well .. at least that's how I see it. But it doesn't matter, the author will change everything 5 more times.
 
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